[Weaselboy]

Originally Posted by hao8413

I put an order in for a 328i in melbourne australia mid July with pro nav as an option, will I be getting the NBT?

If it is a 2014 model year, yes.

[Pauleebe]

Originally Posted by Weaselboy

If it is a 2014 model year, yes.

[JonoNZ]

Originally Posted by Weaselboy

If it is a 2014 model year, yes.

NBT has been on all AU F30 since November 2012 production.

[Kagawa26]

Originally Posted by JonoNZ

NBT has been on all AU F30 since November 2012 production.

Oh okay, that's good, what about the idrive touch?

What I am confused about is do all orders past a certain date automatically become an order to build a new MY? or can you still put orders in for a previous MY even though the new MY production has already started?

As mentioned mine was ordered in mid July 2013, but neither the dealer nor did I specify the MY during the sale process, so I wonder if I will get the MY2014 or not...

[syuan92]

Originally Posted by SamS

A few interesting observations I have made regarding the NBT:

• Every 10 minutes, the traffic data (colored lines on the map) goes away for about 1 second and is refreshed. I guess it could be every five minutes, but I have only noticed the refresh at the 10 minute mark.
• The traffic incident reports are quite helpful, especially because it indicates accidents and their point on the map. I don't remember how good this was on the CIC Nav?

http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...s.aspx?panel=8

According to the BMW website, the new Advanced Real-Time Traffic Information gets refreshed every 3 minutes! I'm so excited to pick up my 2013 ActiveHybrid 3 in a couple of days!

[Weaselboy]

Originally Posted by JonoNZ

NBT has been on all AU F30 since November 2012 production.

From OP's question, I assumed (correctly it now appears), he was asking about the new BMT with touchpad that only started with MY 2014.

Originally Posted by hao8413

Oh okay, that's good, what about the idrive touch?

What I am confused about is do all orders past a certain date automatically become an order to build a new MY? or can you still put orders in for a previous MY even though the new MY production has already started?

As mentioned mine was ordered in mid July 2013, but neither the dealer nor did I specify the MY during the sale process, so I wonder if I will get the MY2014 or not...

If you ordered a MY 2014, you will get the new NBT with touchpad on the iDrive wheel.

There is a bit of overlap with model years due to multiple factories. For example this MY, Munich had stopped making 2013 F30s and was making 2014 MY... while at the same time the South Africa factory was still making MY 2013 F30s for a short time. This leads to some of the confusion.

But in general, other that this short overlap, new orders are for the latest model year.

[JesseS]

Originally Posted by hao8413

Oh okay, that's good, what about the idrive touch?

What I am confused about is do all orders past a certain date automatically become an order to build a new MY? or can you still put orders in for a previous MY even though the new MY production has already started?

As mentioned mine was ordered in mid July 2013, but neither the dealer nor did I specify the MY during the sale process, so I wonder if I will get the MY2014 or not...

It's extremely unlikely that the CA you worked with didn't know the MY. Pricing on MY2014 has been adjusted, for some options (like ACC) it's a very significant adjustment, he would need to know all of that to put the order together.

You should probably call and ask, but if you're getting a 320 or 328 from Germany and ordered in mid-July (which I actually did as well) then I can't imagine you'll be getting a 2013.

If you ordered a 335, many of those are built in S. Africa and as someone mentioned, there's a little bit of an MY overlap if you compare S. Africa and a factory in Germany.

If you have your vin you can tell easily.

[Kagawa26]

Originally Posted by JesseS

It's extremely unlikely that the CA you worked with didn't know the MY. Pricing on MY2014 has been adjusted, for some options (like ACC) it's a very significant adjustment, he would need to know all of that to put the order together.

You should probably call and ask, but if you're getting a 320 or 328 from Germany and ordered in mid-July (which I actually did as well) then I can't imagine you'll be getting a 2013.

If you ordered a 335, many of those are built in S. Africa and as someone mentioned, there's a little bit of an MY overlap if you compare S. Africa and a factory in Germany.

If you have your vin you can tell easily.

well I don't have the VIN yet so I couldn't tell you, but the sales guy definitely has no idea about MY14. I've emailed his boss to confirm. But I think all Australian 3 series sedans are made in South Africa...I hope I didn't miss the boat by a few weeks only...

[JesseS]

Originally Posted by hao8413

well I don't have the VIN yet so I couldn't tell you, but the sales guy definitely has no idea about MY14. I've emailed his boss to confirm. But I think all Australian 3 series sedans are made in South Africa...I hope I didn't miss the boat by a few weeks only...

Do you have a production order number yet? I'm not sure if allocations work the same in .au as they do in the states, but did they tell you that they had to wait for an allocation or any details about when production would commence?

It certainly makes sense that 3ers destined for .au would be built in SA in terms of shipping cost.

I have noticed that the SA facility generates significantly more production delay than the German facilities, at least for the 335 orders from the states that tend to end up there. Perhaps there's just a longer queue, but if your vehicle has not yet started production it doesn't matter where it's built; it's going to be a 2014.

[Kagawa26]

Originally Posted by JesseS

Do you have a production order number yet? I'm not sure if allocations work the same in .au as they do in the states, but did they tell you that they had to wait for an allocation or any details about when production would commence?

It certainly makes sense that 3ers destined for .au would be built in SA in terms of shipping cost.

I have noticed that the SA facility generates significantly more production delay than the German facilities, at least for the 335 orders from the states that tend to end up there. Perhaps there's just a longer queue, but if your vehicle has not yet started production it doesn't matter where it's built; it's going to be a 2014.

I think I do have production numbers, this is what the dealer said:

"The system says it will arrive in October, the chassis number is 9799713."

Not sure how I can use these numbers...does the 713 at the end mean july 13?

[Kagawa26]

And then he also said this when i asked him about a VIN, the new idrive and about MY2014:

"At the stage that your car is at it only has these production numbers and they will attached the vin when it is further down the production line.



We currently have cars arriving with the Pro Navigation system and they have a new system which is what you’ll get with yours. I think this is what you are talking about.



We cannot say your car is a 2014 anything as it is a August 2013 build and probably a October 2013 arrival and registered in 2013 so you can surely see that there would be an issue with that."

[JesseS]

Originally Posted by Kagawa26

I think I do have production numbers, this is what the dealer said:

"The system says it will arrive in October, the chassis number is 9799713."

Not sure how I can use these numbers...does the 713 at the end mean july 13?

I have no idea what a "chassis number" is. Usually that means VIN, in which case no, the 713 would not mean July 13.

In the US and the UK, if you had a production order number, you could go to http://www.bmwusa.com/ or http://www.bmw.co.uk/, create an account and get some minimal tracking on the order there. bmw.co.au doesn't seem to have that functionality though, so perhaps things just work differently.

We cannot say your car is a 2014 anything as it is a August 2013 build and probably a October 2013 arrival and registered in 2013 so you can surely see that there would be an issue with that."

I noticed something interesting when I started browsing around the http://www.bmw.co.au/ site. There's no reference to model year anywhere. I think this might just be a regional difference. Your CA may not think of it as a "2014 model" because it's not yet 2014, but in the US MY2014 just means "whatever major and minor changes are being made for vehicles intended to be shipping and available during the first quarter of 2014."

[Kagawa26]

yeah no idea if australia even follows the MY thing....anyway if my car started build sometime in July and finished build in Aug 2013 and the South Africa plant starts MY14 builds in Aug, does that make my car a MY14 build or does it have to have the entire production process in Aug 2013 (i.e start after Aug 2013)

[Pauleebe]

Also as I think others have said, the MY designation really only applies to the USA. Other country MY have different equipment at times.

[Kagawa26]

Originally Posted by dwalls90

Also as I think others have said, the MY designation really only applies to the USA. Other country MY have different equipment at times.

yeah true, AUS always lags behind in things like this...

oh well, i won't get my hopes up, but will let you guys know what I get once i get the VIN.

[KT_F31_EBII]

Originally Posted by Kagawa26

And then he also said this when i asked him about a VIN, the new idrive and about MY2014:

"At the stage that your car is at it only has these production numbers and they will attached the vin when it is further down the production line.



We currently have cars arriving with the Pro Navigation system and they have a new system which is what you’ll get with yours. I think this is what you are talking about.



We cannot say your car is a 2014 anything as it is a August 2013 build and probably a October 2013 arrival and registered in 2013 so you can surely see that there would be an issue with that."

I was a BMW Sydney to check my F31 EBII today and asked the manager about MY14, in Australia, all productions will start in September and will then mark as MY14, otherwise, it will still be MY13. I hope you will get the iDrive Touch, as mine definitely don't come with it.

[Kagawa26]

Originally Posted by KT_F31_EBII

I was a BMW Sydney to check my F31 EBII today and asked the manager about MY14, in Australia, all productions will start in September and will then mark as MY14, otherwise, it will still be MY13. I hope you will get the iDrive Touch, as mine definitely don't come with it.

Ah okay, thanks for the info. saw your F31 pic, congrats btw.

I think september makes sense as the previous models were all switched over in september as well. I am pretty sure I won't get the idrive touch then...guess I should've waited a few months more...oh well

[KT_F31_EBII]

i was looking forward to MY14 but NBT navigation is much more responsive on my F31, i did get the Nav Pro...

[Kagawa26]

I think if the only real difference is the touch interface then it's not that big a deal, unless they also updated NBT to another version or something? My understanding is NBT has been available in Australian f30s since end of last year productions.

[KT_F31_EBII]

Originally Posted by Kagawa26

I think if the only real difference is the touch interface then it's not that big a deal, unless they also updated NBT to another version or something? My understanding is NBT has been available in Australian f30s since end of last year productions.

You will get the NBT for sure on your F30. At the end of the day the map data is supplied by Telstra in Australia. I wont be worried too much about map update, unless a new major motorway is in place in two years time, I will use my smartphone google map

Which model and what accessories did you order? 316/320/328/335? Mine is 328i f31, so some standards are not available in f30.

Once in the production month, you should get a VIN, go to bmwvin.com to check your specification.

[Kagawa26]

Originally Posted by KT_F31_EBII

You will get the NBT for sure on your F30. At the end of the day the map data is supplied by Telstra in Australia. I wont be worried too much about map update, unless a new major motorway is in place in two years time, I will use my smartphone google map

Which model and what accessories did you order? 316/320/328/335? Mine is 328i f31, so some standards are not available in f30.

Once in the production month, you should get a VIN, go to bmwvin.com to check your specification.

mines a 328i f30.

yeah waiting for my VIN (I assume my dealer will tell me the VIN once its available?)...my dealer gave me some chassis number which I don't know how to use for any sort of checking/tracking...

[JonoNZ]

Originally Posted by Kagawa26

Ah okay, thanks for the info. saw your F31 pic, congrats btw.

I think september makes sense as the previous models were all switched over in september as well. I am pretty sure I won't get the idrive touch then...guess I should've waited a few months more...oh well

The model year change over is just one set of changes, but BMW still change during model year, and quite frequently. In 2012, NBT was introduced in November production onwards. Steering rack change a month or so earlier, comfort access standard a month before that.

The only thing you can be sure of is that there is change! I knew I wanted NBT so waited and got a December 2012 production.