[jondaman]

Originally Posted by Bedista

goodluck! post pics if you get these. like i said these really look nice in person. on my opinion the concativity is just right for f30s

I know it has been a while, but I finally went and pick up these 313s. They really look pretty decent in person. Unfortunately, couple wheels have some curb rush and I will need go get them repaired. Two are brand new and here are couple pics.
Now comes the decision for tires. I absolutely wants no rubbing so the proven set was: 225/40R19 for the front and 255/35R19 for the rear.
Should I go for Michelin PSS or Conti DWS? There is barely any rain in Phoenix and it never snows in the city.
Any recommendation on experience from both tires are welcome. I will keep you all posted once it is mounted and ready to go.

[Quail]

Originally Posted by MMOTION

I was running the oem 313 setup in the winter with blizzak LM60 in oem tire 225/35/19 front and 255/30/19 rear./20140415_162706_zpse1d68369.jpg[/img]

Looks awesome. What suspension setup are you running?

[jondaman]

Originally Posted by Quail

Looks awesome. What suspension setup are you running?

Unfortunately stock
Hopefully dropping with H&R coilover or KWv1 in the spring. These will be summer wheels no rush at this point.

[thewongandonly]

I have a F31 328i M-Sport with DHP and currently have the 405M's as summer set under my car.
Since winter is coming, I'm searching for a winterset and have come across a 313M replica set made by TAM, with ET34 and 235/35/19 wheels all around. According to the seller, the wheels will fit my car without any problems. Since the wheels discussed here in this topic are all staggered, I was wondering if I can indeed put the set under my car with ET 34 in combination with 235 wheels all around.

Anyone...?

[snj49er]

Originally Posted by thewongandonly

I have a F31 328i M-Sport with DHP and currently have the 405M's as summer set under my car.
Since winter is coming, I'm searching for a winterset and have come across a 313M replica set made by TAM, with ET34 and 235/35/19 wheels all around. According to the seller, the wheels will fit my car without any problems. Since the wheels discussed here in this topic are all staggered, I was wondering if I can indeed put the set under my car with ET 34 in combination with 235 wheels all around.

Anyone...?

If the wheels are in the range of 8"-8.5" wide, they should be fine. OEM 18" square wheels are ET 34.

[.BMW.]

Originally Posted by snj49er

If the wheels are in the range of 8"-8.5" wide, they should be fine. OEM 18" square wheels are ET 34.

+1

The tire size however is 2% shorter than OEM, just to let you know. A 35-profile 19" tire is not the best for winter usage, I would at least change the tire size to a 40-profile.

Some alternatives:
225/40-19 OEM size for F31
235/40-19 1% tallar than OEM
245/40-19 2% tallar than OEM

[thewongandonly]

Thanks for the replies!

I don't have much choice: it is a 2nd hand set, although they have hardly run more than 500km's. Given the price: €900, I am not complaining. (Another option is a replica set of the 193M, ET34 and 225/40/18 wheels all around, which is €200 cheaper)

I assume the only downside is that the speedometer isn't accurate(?)

Originally Posted by .BMW.

+1

The tire size however is 2% shorter than OEM, just to let you know. A 35-profile 19" tire is not the best for winter usage, I would at least change the tire size to a 40-profile.

Some alternatives:
225/40-19 OEM size for F31
235/40-19 1% tallar than OEM
245/40-19 2% tallar than OEM

[.BMW.]

Originally Posted by thewongandonly

I assume the only downside is that the speedometer isn't accurate(?)

- Speedometer error
- Increased wheel gap
- Less protection against pothole damaging your wheels

225/40-18 is 3% shorter than OEM so that is not an ideal tire size either.

[snj49er]

Originally Posted by thewongandonly

Thanks for the replies!

I don't have much choice: it is a 2nd hand set, although they have hardly run more than 500km's. Given the price: €900, I am not complaining. (Another option is a replica set of the 193M, ET34 and 225/40/18 wheels all around, which is €200 cheaper)

I assume the only downside is that the speedometer isn't accurate(?)

The 235/35 tire is about 15mm smaller in diameter than the OEM 225/40. That will create a larger gap between the fender and tire. Since the sidewall is 7-8mm shorter, it will provide less protection for the wheel in poor road conditions.

The front tires on the F30 x-drive in this thread are 235/35-19. In the second pic before the car was lowered, the tires look way too small IMO. http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1031765

[thewongandonly]

Now I am doubting whether to buy the set or not...

I live in The Netherlands where fortunately the roads are good, but I rather stay as close to OEM as possible, be it wheels or tyres(-sizes). Perhaps wait till a better set comes along.

[sdhotwn]

Originally Posted by MMOTION

You will need 10mm spacers upfront to clear front brakes on a F30 335i/ix. On a F30 328i/ix I think you should be fine as the front brakes are smaller. The fronts actually look nicer with 10mm spacers as the stock 313 sit a bit too far into the wheel well, imho. Everything else is perfect, the rears will almost be flush.

I was running the oem 313 setup in the winter with blizzak LM60 in oem tire 225/35/19 front and 255/30/19 rear.

Hey guys,

Sorry for the revive on the thread. Read through it several times, and it is about the best one I can find for the discussion on these wheels.

My F30 is a 2014 335 with MSport brakes. I did try a test fit with the 18" 313's off a 135is and the barrel of the wheel was too narrow to clear the calipers. I expect the 19 to clear that fine, but am confused by the repeated statement about "needing" 10mm spacers for the front. The offset and width on the 313's is identical to the factory wheels. If the spokes are set back in more I could see the need potentially, but that'd be unusual for BMW wheels.

Additionally, the Z4 wheels do appear to be identical in every respect except the fronts are 10mm additional offset. So that's an "easy" solution. I plan to over tire the fronts most likely (245 or higher), so spacing will matter a bit for rubbing.

Any other info or updates anyone can provide on fitting 313's?

Thanks!

Steve

[sdhotwn]

Hey Guys,

So I got the E92 Style 313's in on Tuesday. Did a test fit and the fronts do indeed have a small clearance issue. It's LESS than 5mm though. It just barely catches the caliper cover on the spokes at one of the radius's. Keep in mine I have the MSport brakes as well. I'd wager if you have non M-Sport you'd be fine, but certainly can't promise/guarantee that in any way. So the Z4 wheel offset for the fronts look like they'd work perfectly. I'm still sorting out a few things and may just swap to the Z4 wheels depending on what I decide. I'll try to get some pictures for you guys as well.

Thanks!

Steve

[goj]

Originally Posted by MMOTION

You will need 10mm spacers upfront to clear front brakes on a F30 335i/ix. On a F30 328i/ix I think you should be fine as the front brakes are smaller. The fronts actually look nicer with 10mm spacers as the stock 313 sit a bit too far into the wheel well, imho. Everything else is perfect, the rears will almost be flush.

I was running the oem 313 setup in the winter with blizzak LM60 in oem tire 225/35/19 front and 255/30/19 rear.

Are these wheels forged or cast?

[jondaman]

Originally Posted by goj

Are these wheels forged or cast?

I think they are forged. The original OEM MSRP is about $5k and they are made by BBS. I don't have a concrete answer though.

[therealm3]

Originally Posted by jondaman

I think they are forged. The original OEM MSRP is about $5k and they are made by BBS. I don't have a concrete answer though.

can't comment on the process used to make the wheels, but Tischer has the Z4 fronts (36116787655) for $540 and rears (36116787656) for $580.

[sdhotwn]

Another piece of info for you guys. Turns out the rears don't clear the MSport calipers at all. Probably 10-15 mm interference. The Z4 wheels have the same rear offsets I believe, so no advantage/resolution there.

[vifferfun]

Originally Posted by MMOTION

Sorry, you're absolutely correct! My specs are 19x8 +37 front and 19x9 +39 rear. So with the 10mm spacers upfront, that would put the front setup at 19x8 +27 which still just barely clears the front calipers.

I think you might be able to get away at +29 (only 2mm difference) but I still wouldn't guarantee it.

Thanks for posting this info everyone! I'm really interested in getting the 19" Style 313 wheels for my F30 335i as well (and I don't have M-Sport brakes). First, some specs:

Standard Factory Wheels Offsets:

• 18" Double Spoke Style 400M (M Sport wheels) - 18x8" ET34 225/45-18 front / 18x8.5" ET47 255/40-18 rear
• 18" Double Spoke Style 397 (Sport Line wheels) - 18x8" ET34 225/45-18 front/rear
• 19" Double Spoke Style 401 - 19x8" ET36 225/40/R19 front / 19x8.5" ET47 255/35/R19 rear
• 20" Cross Spoke Style 404 - 20x8" ET36 225/35/R20 front / 20x8.5" ET47 255/30/R20 rear
• 20" M Double Spoke Style 405 - 20x8" ET36 225/35/R20 front / 20x8.5" ET47 255/30/R20 rear

Brake Sizes:

• 328i front brakes: 12.3" / rear - 11.8".
• 328i M sport brakes - front: 13.4" / rear: 13.6"
• 335i front brakes: 13.4"
• 335i M sport brakes - front: 14.6" front / rear: 13.6" rear

Style 313 Wheel Specs:

• FRONT: 19" x 8" (ET37 Offset)
• REARS: 19" x 9" (ET39 Offset)

A couple of questions:

1.) MMOTION mentioned that his 313 rims are just barely clearing his front calipers, even with 10mm spacers. This is surprising, because the offset of the factory 19" wheel is ET36, which is almost the same as the Style 313 (ET37). MMOTION, do you have the M-Sport Brakes on your car?

2.) Sometimes the Style 313 has the "M" badge, and other times is doesn't have the "M" badge but has the "BMW Performance" label. Does anyone know the difference?

Thanks!

[MMOTION]

Originally Posted by vifferfun

1.) MMOTION mentioned that his 313 rims are just barely clearing his front calipers, even with 10mm spacers. This is surprising, because the offset of the factory 19" wheel is ET36, which is almost the same as the Style 313 (ET37). MMOTION, do you have the M-Sport Brakes on your car?


Thanks!

Yes I do have the Msport brakes on my car, however, I now have the full Mperformance brakes pkg on my car. Hopefully no issues arise with my oem 313 winter setup this year.

[vifferfun]

Originally Posted by MMOTION

Yes I do have the Msport brakes on my car, however, I now have the full Mperformance brakes pkg on my car. Hopefully no issues arise with my oem 313 winter setup this year.

Thanks for confirming MMOTION!

Since I don't have M-Sport brakes, I'm hoping that the 19" Style 313 wheels will clear my front calipers without issue (even without spacers). Has anyone done this?

[MMOTION]

Just wanted to update that the OEM M313 19x9 +39 rims WILL NOT clear MPERFORMANCE BBK on F30 335i/xi in the rear. You will need min. 3mm spacer to clear the rear caliper. Luckily I had a pair laying around, but I will be switching to a 5mm just to be on the safe side. I'm literally clearing it only by a fraction of 1-2mm.



Also, I am also using 12mm spacers in the front vs 10mm I was previously using last winter, just to give more clearance between the caliper and the rims. This is how the car looks with 12mm front and 3mm rear spacers.

[vifferfun]

Looks good MMotion!

Do you think it would be OK to mount the following tire sizes (Michelin PSS)?

F: 245-35-19
R: 265-35-19

Does it matter that the circumference of the front is slightly different than the rear?

Thanks!

[vifferfun]

Hi MMotion,

Spring is here! I got my mechanic to test the fitment of the 19" 313M on the front of my car and it apparently needs a spacer to clear the caliper I don't have the M-Sport package, but he said the front caliper on my 2012 335i is identical to the M-Sport caliper, except that it's grey instead of painted blue.

Based on your recommendation, I'm going to buy 12MM spacers for the fronts.

Do you think that I also need 3MM spacers for the rears? Are you able to take a pic of your M-Sport rear calipers so that I can compare them to mine? I'm hoping that my rear calipers are smaller.

Thanks!