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      03-21-2017, 07:22 PM   #67
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Okay, I have a 328 coupe and I read through so many reviews on Tirerack before decided to go with the Michelin A/S 3. I have been a fan of Conti and had the original DWS on my previous car then changed to the new DWS06 when the old one worn out. On my 328, it was the road noise and harsh ride of the runflat tires that drove me nut so I decided I had no other choice but to make the change. The Michelin tires were good. They handle well but during the winter, I skidded like hell. It was mind boggling to me because tirerack did the test. They clearly says Michelin earned higher score on snow than the Conti. Guess what, slowly as time goes there are just more and more reports from other owners saying the same thing about the Michelin A/S 3 tires. They SUCK in snow. If you are willing to be Super careful everyday driving during the winter, buy yourself the Michelin tires. If you value your life and willing to deal with a bit softer ride, go with the Conti.

Stiffness wise, you have Run flat ones being super stiff, then Micheline AS3, then non run flat tires. Micheline has a very very strong side walls so hitting a curb, a pothole... no problem. They just are more willing to throw your car into another car when there is snow on the road.
The AS 3+ is supposed to be a significant improvement over the AS3 in snow to the tune of like 28% better or something like that according to Michelin. My experience with the AS 3+ over the course of this past winter has been quite positive.
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for those complaining about snow....are your cars X-drives?
I have a non X-drive with Michelin AS3+ and it does slip but I dont really drive it much in the snow anyway.
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I'm in Pa and the DWS06's have been an exceptional tire!
30,000 miles so far. Truly impressed!
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      03-26-2017, 08:10 PM   #70
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I just took my A/S 3+'s off and put my Summer's back on. I grew up in SW Michigan, and drove through gobs of snow every winter until my late 20's. We had more snow in a single hit here in Portland this year than we've had in a very long time so I got to see what the Michellins could do. After a couple of days in serious-for-Portland snow, I would call them "good enough" for UHP All Seasons. I wasn't deeply impressed, but as long as I was careful on the throttle and let my old, rusty instincts take over they were dandy.

That being said, the ancient RWD and FWD cars I had back in the 80's and 90's were not the same beasts as my AWD 340. Light Japanese FWD cars with skinny tires are easy to drive in the snow (unless you are foolish enough to stop on a hill...or forced to) and 70's American RWD boats are utterly evil in the snow (which is what I learned on...nothing else has ever seemed too difficult in the snow).

I never drove a car with this much power on snow in the old days, and that makes a huge difference. The cars I owned back then didn't HAVE enough power to make snow driving worse...and in most circumstances, having a ton of power to put down does not help you in the snow. The only real issues I had were when I wasn't careful enough on the throttle.

The Michellin's were not good enough to cover for mistakes. I don't know if the DWS06's would have been better but the A/S 3+ was only good as long as I was.
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Any more experience with the A/S 3+ in the snow vs. DWS06? I want to know which is best in the snow. I've had many years with the DWS, but was wanting to try something else, especially with Michelin's claim that they have improved the snow handling with their 3+.
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Any more experience with the A/S 3+ in the snow vs. DWS06? I want to know which is best in the snow. I've had many years with the DWS, but was wanting to try something else, especially with Michelin's claim that they have improved the snow handling with their 3+.
No snow feedback for you, but one additional factor I hadn't discussed before was steering response. As for me this selection is about my summer tire and I use Blizzaks for winter, I wanted to give a high level of steering feel back to this F30, so that might change things a little, as apparently the Conti doesn't do well in that regard.

https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests...y.jsp?ttid=216

I ended up buying a used set of A/S 3s off another forum member as the deal was pretty good. They have been a big improvement over the stock run flats, but I have yet to compare them to anything else on this chassis. We will see what happens when I use these up.
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Comp 2

Has anyone tried the BFGoodrich G-force Comp2 A/S tires yet? I have run them on other cars and they perform quite well, have good tread wear life, and are reasonably priced.
I work with racing/driving instructors who have done tire testing for Michelin, BFG, and other manufactures, and they all have high praise for the Comp2 tires.
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Any more experience with the A/S 3+ in the snow vs. DWS06? I want to know which is best in the snow. I've had many years with the DWS, but was wanting to try something else, especially with Michelin's claim that they have improved the snow handling with their 3+.
No direct info, but...I have the A/S3+ now and these are fine for the total average annual snowfall we get here of about 8". Great tires in all aspects...except tread life.

Back when I lived in NE Ohio, with about 90" of snow per year, I used the Conti DWS thru the winter and liked them. But this was on Acura FWD.

On TireRack, looks like DWS are rated slightly better for snow, while A/S3 are rated slightly better for ice. Fairly equal overall...
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I'm likely going to try the A/S 3+, but waiting for their rebate in the fall.

Any others, please chime in on the A/S 3+ in winter conditions. I guess I'm hesitant b/c of how bad the previous generation were in the snow.

DWS06 are a sure bet for the winter, but if the Michelins A/S 3+ are on par w/the DWS06, I'd rather give the Michelins a try, especially given their better dry/steering response.
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I'm likely going to try the A/S 3+, but waiting for their rebate in the fall.

Any others, please chime in on the A/S 3+ in winter conditions. I guess I'm hesitant b/c of how bad the previous generation were in the snow.

DWS06 are a sure bet for the winter, but if the Michelins A/S 3+ are on par w/the DWS06, I'd rather give the Michelins a try, especially given their better dry/steering response.
I half thought I would try the Perelli P Zero All Season Plus, but the other half reminds me the last two times I bought Perellis they didn't last as long as advertised or as long as comparable tires from other companies.

I am sure you will be more than satisfied with the A/S 3+
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How do the 2 compare in price?
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I had the as3 on mine. I'm rwd and had no problem with Missouri weather as my daily driver. Snow is no issue. We had some bad freezing rain which was a little sketch but paired with the excellent traction control I was able to manage.
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