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      01-16-2018, 12:35 PM   #221
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      01-17-2018, 05:33 PM   #222
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Well compatibility is just half of the truth - you also need a different head unit with that screen. The head unit that you have has two hardware versions - one for a smaller and one for a larger screen (see this thread)
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      01-17-2018, 09:27 PM   #223
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Do you see HU_NBT or HU_ENTRYNAV or HU_ENTRY folder in eSys? If your car is 2011, you probably have the older head unit, which can't be coded for a larger screen. That's why you can't find the 2 required coding options in eSys.
I just need to check this... but as you said... its difficult
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      01-21-2018, 10:25 AM   #224
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Do you see HU_NBT or HU_ENTRYNAV or HU_ENTRY folder in eSys? If your car is 2011, you probably have the older head unit, which can't be coded for a larger screen. That's why you can't find the 2 required coding options in eSys.
Nope... I don't have these entries...
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      01-21-2018, 05:37 PM   #225
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Well, you have HU_CHAMP and you have to prepare yourself that it probably can't be coded for the larger screen... You would need to retrofit a newer head unit (such as HU_NBT), which is expensive and more difficult than just changing the screen :-(
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      01-25-2018, 12:33 PM   #226
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guys,

quick question, i have a HU_Champ2 unit on an F30 , 2012 and want to upgrade to a bigger screen.
I am able to find the coding parameter
> 3001 EXBOX > DISPLAY_VARIANTE = breites_display but not able to find the parameter to choose the display resolution > 3000 HMI > DISPLAY_SIZE_RESOLUTION = 8.8_1280x480

Any advice?

Thanks in advance
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      01-25-2018, 03:14 PM   #227
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guys,

quick question, i have a HU_Champ2 unit on an F30 , 2012 and want to upgrade to a bigger screen.
I am able to find the coding parameter
> 3001 EXBOX > DISPLAY_VARIANTE = breites_display but not able to find the parameter to choose the display resolution > 3000 HMI > DISPLAY_SIZE_RESOLUTION = 8.8_1280x480

Any advice?

Thanks in advance
HU_ENTRYNAV (available from end of 2014) is the first head unit, which supports switching from a small to a larger screen. HU_CHAMP or HU_CHAMP2 cannot be coded for a higher resolution, you'll have to replace the whole unit which is not easy to do.
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      02-01-2018, 05:25 AM   #228
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Hello BMW Experts!
I have a '17 330i, which I think has an NBT EVO ID6 head unit. The 8.8" upgrade for my car is:

65506822626

RealOEM says this for the other screen #s:

65509387453
(07/01/2015 — ), nonexchangeable retrospectively
65509292248
(12/01/2012 — ), Exchangeable retrospectively

65509281688
(07/01/2012 — 06/13/2013), Exchangeable retrospectively
65509252004
(11/01/2011 — 06/13/2013

Q: Does this mean the 2248 will work in my car, or what??

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      02-01-2018, 05:47 AM   #229
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Ask mossmotorsport if he tried it (asked about this a couple posts back).
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      02-01-2018, 06:00 AM   #230
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Thanks Marko,
Moss says he has an HU_ENTRYNAV2 (Euro car), and I think I have an HU_NBT EVO ID6. I assume these are both head units, with different compatabilities, but I KNOW NOTHING!

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      02-01-2018, 07:02 AM   #231
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Thanks Marko,
Moss says he has an HU_ENTRYNAV2 (Euro car), and I think I have an HU_NBT EVO ID6. I assume these are both head units, with different compatabilities, but I KNOW NOTHING!

Murf
If you have the 6.5" screen, you should have HU_ENTRYNAV2, even if you have business navigation. NBT_EVO comes with the 8.8" screen.

To be sure, get an ENET cable/adapter ($20 on eBay) and check the head unit via eSys software - you'll need both nevertheless, if you want to code the larger screen.
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      02-01-2018, 08:30 AM   #232
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I have no nav, and a 6.5" screen...

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      02-01-2018, 09:01 AM   #233
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I have no nav, and a 6.5" screen...

Murf
Then you have HU_ENTRYNAV2, eventhough it has tiles and looks like EVO. But that's okay, it should be possible to code it for a 8.8" screen.
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The 65506822626 is listed in RealOEM as the 8.8" for my year, but they are not out there used.
So can I use a 65509292248 sccreen, listed in RealOEM as:

(12/01/2012 — ), Exchangeable retrospectively

with the 65506822626, with proper resolution & no voltage prob?

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      02-01-2018, 09:26 AM   #235
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If it worked for mossmotorsport, it'll work for you. Don't know if he (or anyone else) tried yet.

EDIT: You can check in eSys that you see the two options (breites_display + resolution). If they're there, then there's a great chance that the larger screen will work. If you can get it off eBay with a return period, you can try without being stuck with a useless screen.
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      02-01-2018, 10:12 AM   #236
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Thanks Marko,
Can you tell me what these notations in RealOEM mean, pls? I'm not sure which direction the screens can go!

65506822626 Central information display 8,8"
From: 07/01/2016 To: -


65509387453
(07/01/2015 — ), nonexchangeable retrospectively
65509292248
(12/01/2012 — ), Exchangeable retrospectively
65509281688
(07/01/2012 — 06/13/2013), Exchangeable retrospectively
65509252004
(11/01/2011 — 06/13/2013)

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      02-01-2018, 06:09 PM   #237
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To be honest, I'm not sure either. I have HU_ENTRYNAV (car made in 2016) and altough RealOEM says that 65509387453 (LCI screen) shouldn't be compatible, it works IMHO even better than the compatible screen (65509292248). See my earlier post for more details).

Noone has posted here about retrofitting a 8.8" on a HU_ENTRYNAV2, maybe because these units appeared just last year in combination with the smaller screen. In 2016, you got the newer NBT_EVO only with prof. nav and 8.8" screen and people with 6.5" screens got the older iDrive 4.2 with HU_ENTRYNAV.

My suggestion - find a good deal on eBay for either of the screens I mentioned and if it won't work, either send it back (some sellers offer this if you pay for return shipping) or sell it again yourself.

Or, if you aren't feeling lucky, wait until someone here tries this retrofit by himself ;-).
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      02-01-2018, 06:20 PM   #238
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I've searched a little bit and found out that:

1) HU_ENTRYNAV2 is nicknamed "EntryEVO"
2) it uses APIX2 voltage, so the pre-LCI screen probably won't work

So either try the LCI screen (65509387453), which may work, or wait until someone sells the newest type (65506822626).
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      02-06-2018, 10:34 AM   #239
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Hello I have Bmw 320/Gt produced 4/2014 screen part number 9292247 Bmw l7 CID MID I’m not sure what entrynav I have Iam just checking to see if I can change my screen without changing head unit
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      02-06-2018, 10:40 AM   #240
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Hello I have Bmw 320/Gt produced 4/2014 screen part number 9292247 Bmw l7 CID MID I’m not sure what entrynav I have Iam just checking to see if I can change my screen without changing head unit
Post a photo of your screen, or check via eSys (you'll need an ENET cable). Do you have business navigation?
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      02-06-2018, 11:17 AM   #241
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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VOLTAGE-C...53.m1438.l2649

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-NBT-H...53.m1438.l2649

You can use Pre-LCI/APIX1 screens on units that are LCI/APIX2 using the cable above.
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      02-06-2018, 11:17 AM   #242
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Thanks markoSK I have been trying to upload a picture to the group chat I am unable to do this I have put the picture on my profile for you to have a look thanks again 😎
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