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      09-18-2013, 08:56 PM   #1
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403M on Staggered All Seasons

My order is still held up which means I have more time to second guess my options for the hundredth time. I currently have an Xdrive msport 6mt alpine white on order with 400M staggered summers. My plan is to take off the summer run flat tires and replace them with non run flat ultra high performance all seasons, most likely the new Michelin pilot AS 3. I will drive these year round including through NY winters. My question is not about the merits of winter tires. I am absolutely using all seasons year round on stock wheels as that is my preference from years of similar setups. That has worked well for me even in the hilly area where I live.

Anyway as of late I have been considering switching to 403M wheels but my concern is that the 1/2" less rubber on either side of the wheel will mean poor performance in the winter or damaged wheels. My previous cars have had a bit more meat 225/50 vs the new BMWs 225/40 front tires. The 400Ms already have a little less sidewall that my previous car but the 403Ms would be even more so. My gut says sooner or later this becomes unusable in the winter. My previous experience may not be similar as a result of the new cars lower profile.

Anyone have experience running 403Ms on all seasons during the winter on an xdrive? Or do I stick with the 18's?
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      09-19-2013, 12:24 AM   #2
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I just picked up my 335i xdrive m-sport last week and have the 403 wheels and I am also considering the exact same thing you mentioned. I would love to ditch these summer runflats. The Michelin Pilot A/S 3's are getting awesome reviews, but due to them being brand new to market, there aren't many reviews about how they perform in the winter. Another issue is that though the sizes for the 403's are showing as available on Michelin's site, I'm having trouble finding local tire shop here in Vancouver that has them in stock and might have to be a special order (for the rears anyways).

Interested to know if anyone else has experience with this wheel/tire combo....
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      09-19-2013, 05:09 AM   #3
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I just picked up my 335i xdrive m-sport last week and have the 403 wheels and I am also considering the exact same thing you mentioned. I would love to ditch these summer runflats. The Michelin Pilot A/S 3's are getting awesome reviews, but due to them being brand new to market, there aren't many reviews about how they perform in the winter. Another issue is that though the sizes for the 403's are showing as available on Michelin's site, I'm having trouble finding local tire shop here in Vancouver that has them in stock and might have to be a special order (for the rears anyways).

Interested to know if anyone else has experience with this wheel/tire combo....
You are correct. I noticed the same thing. Available according to Michelin but not popping up on tire web sites.
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      10-04-2013, 12:59 PM   #4
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Anyone running winter tires on the 403M wheels?
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might order Michelin Pilot A/S 3's and solve my issue in debating to get dedicated winter tire and rims ($$$). Won't drive it too much in the winter anyways. Probably order the continental comfortkit as i believe these are non run flats.

Just called Kal Tire, 4-6 weeks to get these in!

http://www.tirerack.com/accessories/detail.jsp?ID=38
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      10-04-2013, 03:35 PM   #6
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Is this what you guys are talking about? (this is with my yet-to-arrive 2014 BMW 328d with M-Sport)

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....Clar=M%20Sport
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