[XxThe_RemedyXx]

Hi everyone...

I recently had the MPPK installed on my 335 F30 EWG and was looking to add a bit more power. Right now, I'm pretty much stock. I was reading that I could stack a JB+ or Dinantronics Sport on top of the MPPK to get a little more boost in power.

Are there any issues going in this direction? Would you guys recommend this path or some other path? Any issues I can expect from stacking one of these boxes on top of the MPPK?

[razzy530]

how do you feel about the MPPK? is there a noticable difference in performance over stock and how about the exhaust notes? thanks.

[XxThe_RemedyXx]

Originally Posted by razzy530

how do you feel about the MPPK? is there a noticable difference in performance over stock and how about the exhaust notes? thanks.

Absolutely. The noticeable difference in power is very apparent. Lots of power down low. The biggest difference is in the transmission. Before MPPK the car felt like it was trying to find the right gear, very harsh shifting/bucking. After MPPK shifting is buttery smooth and quick. Sound is amazing as well. Not too many burbles in Comfort, but in Sport/Sport+ it really comes alive.

[SuperleggeraKOR]

Interesting..I'm actually in same situation with OP.
I would like to see other comments

[Just Ask]

I have the MPPK and up until recently also had the JB Stage One connected as well (note that it is the JB Stage One not the JB+). There is definitely a very noticeable difference with vs without the JB Stage One. However, I was able to get MHD during the Beta period and am now only using the MHD Stage 1 map (no other bolt on mods...yet). The MHD off the shelf base tune is - to me - more preferable than the MPPK/JB Stage One combo. I can't say one is more powerful than the other (no real dyno tests, only the Butt Dyno) but I simply like the MHD power delivery better. I've got a JB Stage One for sale cheap!

[razzy530]

Perfect! Thats exactly what i was looking to hear

[Radmobile]

Dinan specifically makes their Dinantronics tunes for cars with and without MPPK.

Here are the Dinantronics Stage 1 kits for example:

• With MPPK: 364hp, 430lb-ft (up from 320/332)
• Without MPPK: 360hp, 392lb-ft (up from 300/300)

[XxThe_RemedyXx]

Originally Posted by Just Ask

I have the MPPK and up until recently also had the JB Stage One connected as well (note that it is the JB Stage One not the JB+). There is definitely a very noticeable difference with vs without the JB Stage One. However, I was able to get MHD during the Beta period and am now only using the MHD Stage 1 map (no other bolt on mods...yet). The MHD off the shelf base tune is - to me - more preferable than the MPPK/JB Stage One combo. I can't say one is more powerful than the other (no real dyno tests, only the Butt Dyno) but I simply like the MHD power delivery better. I've got a JB Stage One for sale cheap!

Interesting. I was waiting on BM3 but decided to go MPPK because I'm still under CPO warranty for another 2 years.

How is MHD compared to MPPK?

[Just Ask]

Originally Posted by XxThe_RemedyXx

Interesting. I was waiting on BM3 but decided to go MPPK because I'm still under CPO warranty for another 2 years.

How is MHD compared to MPPK?

My main reason for MHD is that I am going to start adding bolt ons piece by piece and wanted to be able to change the OTS maps as I made the changes. Since I bought the car used and it already had MPPK on it, I can only compare the MPPK+JB Stage One combo to the base OTS map with MHD. MHD is just smoother IMO. The power delivery sorta ramps up instead of being right there at initial point of acceleration. I'm getting older and still want power, but prefer the smoother, albeit slower, delivery method

If I was still under warranty, I would have done the same as you. Nice thing is with the JB products, you can add them on and take them off in less than 15 minutes. Perfect setup for trips to the dealer...

[RoundelM3]

I added a JB+ on top of my MPPK and it definitely makes a difference. According to what the posted numbers are, I'm now running 5.5 PSI more boost (2 from MPPK and 3.5 from JB+).

[XxThe_RemedyXx]

Originally Posted by roundel335

I added a JB+ on top of my MPPK and it definitely makes a difference. According to what the posted numbers are, I'm now running 5.5 PSI more boost (2 from MPPK and 3.5 from JB+).

Any change to transmission and shifting parameters? I love the smoothness of my shifts now and would hate for the JB+ or Stage 1 to change that.

[RoundelM3]

Originally Posted by XxThe_RemedyXx

Any change to transmission and shifting parameters? I love the smoothness of my shifts now and would hate for the JB+ or Stage 1 to change that.

There is no transmission programming in these basic tunes - strictly added boost. The MPPK flash tune does include transmission and chassis programming, though.

[Chick_Slayer]

Hi folks, just had the MPPK installed $985 Amazon + $350 dealer installed(already had the MPE) last week. Right off the bat, rolling 10mph - 50 HUGE noticeable difference, the car is so quick and smooth(about 90% of my driving speeds) compared to stock.

I wanted more backfire and burbles, thats why I went with this setup, but didn't want a catback b/c on the last few different cars i've owned, the catbacks make the interior, for me, too loud during WOT.

I've got about 500miles on the MPE and maybe 50 on the MPPK, so I expect sounds to just get better as well as performance.

I'm posting here now to see if anyone has added the $300 Dinan sport performance tuner clip to a MPPK, not the full on ST1 - still looking for more overrun burble/backfire - my turbo mini coupe made gun shot sounds stock..

Anyone have this setup and can share their experience?

[Bradshaw88]

Originally Posted by XxThe_RemedyXx

Hi everyone...

I recently had the MPPK installed on my 335 F30 EWG and was looking to add a bit more power. Right now, I'm pretty much stock. I was reading that I could stack a JB+ or Dinantronics Sport on top of the MPPK to get a little more boost in power.

Are there any issues going in this direction? Would you guys recommend this path or some other path? Any issues I can expect from stacking one of these boxes on top of the MPPK?

My current set up is MPPK with JB+. I have been pretty happy with it so far. I have a 2014 x drive ewg 6AT. With the JB+ set at 4 psi, my car dyno' d at 363 whp with 377 tq on a mustang dyno.

[matty088]

Forget mppk. Get bm3. Night and day.

[bradsm87]

You would only "stack" these days with a B58, which no aftermarket flash tuning is available for. N55 has flash tuning (the proper way). I'd recommend MHD.

[XutvJet]

Originally Posted by matty088

Forget mppk. Get bm3. Night and day.

While BM3 makes a lot more power, the downside is you risk your powertrain warranty. The BM3 and other flash tunes tend to push the turbos right up to their limit and in some cases slightly behind, point is, the motor is being pushed pretty hard with these flash tunes. With the MPPK, you're only adding about 2psi plus getting an OEM performance tune, warranty coverage, and excellent driveability.

Stacking with the JB+ or Dinantronics Sport Tuner (my preference), adds about 30-40wtq on top of the MPPK (which already makes ~300-310whp and 320-330wtq) and with the stacked piggyback, you still have pretty good drivability (especially with the 6MT) and less risk of denied powertrain coverage as these simply piggybacks aren't detectable once removed.

[RoundelM3]

Originally Posted by XutvJet

While BM3 makes a lot more power, the downside is you risk your powertrain warranty. The BM3 and other flash tunes tend to push the turbos right up to their limit and in some cases slightly behind, point is, the motor is being pushed pretty hard with these flash tunes. With the MPPK, you're only adding about 2psi plus getting an OEM performance tune, warranty coverage, and excellent driveability.

Stacking with the JB+ or Dinantronics Sport Tuner (my preference), adds about 30-40wtq on top of the MPPK (which already makes ~300-310whp and 320-330wtq) and with the stacked piggyback, you still have pretty good drivability (especially with the 6MT) and less risk of denied powertrain coverage as these simply piggybacks aren't detectable once removed.

All quite true - except our engines only have one turbo, and I think you meant to say slightly beyond its limit instead of slightly behind. The other downside of the flash tunes is that if for whatever reason your DME software is updated during dealer service, you lose your tune plus any custom coding (other than VO) you may have done.

[XxThe_RemedyXx]

Originally Posted by XutvJet

While BM3 makes a lot more power, the downside is you risk your powertrain warranty. The BM3 and other flash tunes tend to push the turbos right up to their limit and in some cases slightly behind, point is, the motor is being pushed pretty hard with these flash tunes. With the MPPK, you're only adding about 2psi plus getting an OEM performance tune, warranty coverage, and excellent driveability.

Stacking with the JB+ or Dinantronics Sport Tuner (my preference), adds about 30-40wtq on top of the MPPK (which already makes ~300-310whp and 320-330wtq) and with the stacked piggyback, you still have pretty good drivability (especially with the 6MT) and less risk of denied powertrain coverage as these simply piggybacks aren't detectable once removed.

This is exactly the reason I went MPPK. I'm still under CPO for another 2 years and didn't want to risk it. I'm going to pick up a JB+ and throw it on there this weekend. I'll report back.

[XutvJet]

Originally Posted by XxThe_RemedyXx

This is exactly the reason I went MPPK. I'm still under CPO for another 2 years and didn't want to risk it. I'm going to pick up a JB+ and throw it on there this weekend. I'll report back.

I'd spend the extra coin do the Dinan Sport. It's really great to be able to switch boost levels on the fly.

[Chick_Slayer]

Anybody use the M Sport Analyzer w/ their MPPK yet? It's only 187 on the BMW site, for some reason it's way more on eBay. I'm waiting for their coupon email before buying it.

[Chick_Slayer]

Links:
https://www.shopbmwusa.com/PRODUCT/5...DRIVE-ANALYZER

Dealer discounted, but shipping cancels out the discount FWIW:

https://parts.bmwnorthwest.com/p/BMW...432365115.html