[bcornwellatl]

Is it me, or does it seem like you have to really push the brakes hard to stop? Is this normal? Car is 2013 sports line 328i CPO with 10k miles.

[Jbrock22]

I thought the same thing. I replaced my 2012 328i brakes with M sport performance. World of difference.

[bcornwellatl]

Originally Posted by Jbrock22

I thought the same thing. I replaced my 2012 328i brakes with M sport performance. World of difference.

Are those the 2k dollar brakes?

[Chris@codemybimmer]

I feel the same...when i dropped off my E90 30 mins prior to picking up my F30. I was expecting the brakes to be somehwat the same but i was terribly wrong...
First red light i came to i almost rear ended the lady who also picked up her F30 lol

but i replaced mine with stoptech pads and now they feel 110% better.

[bcornwellatl]

Originally Posted by 1lyfe

I feel the same...when i dropped off my E90 30 mins prior to picking up my F30. I was expecting the brakes to be somehwat the same but i was terribly wrong...
First red light i came to i almost rear ended the lady who also picked up her F30 lol

but i replaced mine with stoptech pads and now they feel 110% better.

Oh that is interesting... So just changing your pads made a huge difference? I'm guessing BMW went to ceramic pads. I've noticed there is little or no dust... I guess I'll have to maybe look into that...

[Jbrock22]

Yes the 2k brakes.

[hsk1610]

I just posted on the topic, "brake wear" in this forum and had been complaining to the dealers about the need to stomp on the pedal to stop the car, especially at highway speeds. Looking at my rear rotors, it seems the pads are not making full contact. Might want to take a look at your rotors and see if that's the case. Made an appointment so will see if the replacement of rotors and pads will make a difference.

[munch520]

Yeah that's why I got the m sports - huge improvement.

Stainless braided lines will also help your pedal feel

[bcornwellatl]

I'm thinking of upgrading... Especially if I add the BMS tune. I called the dealer today and talked to another SA. He told me that the newer cars this is normal. That the pads were designed for less dust and for "normal" driving and not performance. He said the brakes on the 335 are better. BMW always finds a way to nickel and dime you...

[1N54E92]

Originally Posted by bcornwellatl

Is it me, or does it seem like you have to really push the brakes hard to stop? Is this normal? Car is 2013 sports line 328i CPO with 10k miles.

There is a recall on the brakes ! was this CPO 328's brakes fixed ? I am thinking it should have been but I would take it back to the dealership. I don't have the same issue with brakes on mine.

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Delivery of N20 and N26 powered vehicles stopped as a result of power brake assist problem

On September 26th, BMW of North America announced to NHTSA its intention to conduct a voluntary Recall on certain 2012-2014 model year BMW 3 Series, 5 Series, X1, X3 and Z4 models equipped with the N20 or N26 engine, produced from May 2012 to August 2013.

Affected vehicles in dealer inventories will not be sold or delivered to customers until the recall repair has been performed. Vehicles at BMW vehicle delivery centers will be corrected before shipment to dealerships.

The Problem:
The oil supply from the intake camshaft to the brake vacuum pump can become restricted. If this happens the brake vacuum pump could fail due to lack of lubrication, resulting in a loss of power brake assist.

The hydraulic brakes will still function to stop the vehicle but without power assist. Without assist the driver will need to apply much greater pedal pressure to stop the vehicle. The distance required to stop the vehicle will increase as most drivers will not be able to apply enough brake pedal pressure.

In the event of a loss of brake power assist pull the emergency brake and apply as much brake pedal pressure as possible. If your BMW has an electronic parking brake pull up and hold the switch to engage the brake.

Move away from traffic and park in a safe location as soon as possible. Contact BMW Roadside Assistance and have your vehicle taken to the nearest BMW dealer.

Solution and Repair
A repair solution for vehicles already on the road is under development and not available at this time. Existing owners will be notified of the recall in November by letter and again in December by letter when parts are available. Wait to receive your notification letter before contacting your dealership for service. The repair letter will be sent when the dealership has the necessary parts, tools and procedures to preform the repair.

The solution involves inserting a locking ring onto the camshaft so the oil supply to the brake assist vacuum pump is not impaired. The repair will take approximately two hours but can vary depending on your BMW dealers schedule. The repair will be preformed free of charge.

Affected Models
2012-14 320i/328i, 320i/328i xDrive Sedan manufactured between May 2012 – August 2013
2014 328i xDrive Sports Wagon manufactured between March 2013 – May 2013
2012-13 528i, 528i xDrive Sedan manufactured between June 2012 – June 2013
2013-14 X1 sDrive28i, X1 xDrive28i manufactured between June 2012 – June 2013
2013-14 X3 xDrive28i manufactured between June 2012 – August 2013
2012-14 Z4 sDrive28i manufactured between June 2012 – June 2013
Models not list are not affected due to different lubrication and vacuum pump designs.

Number of vehicles affected in the US
Up to 76,190 BMWs are affected by this safety issue. The model break down is as follows -
2012-14 320i/328i, 320i/328i xDrive Sedan - 37,473 potentially affected
2014 328i xDrive Sports Wagon - 176 potentially affected
2012-13 528i, 528i xDrive Sedan - 12,708 potentially affected
2013-14 X1 sDrive28i, X1 xDrive28i - 10,547 potentially affected
2013-14 X3 xDrive28i - 14,517 potentially affected
2012-14 Z4 sDrive28i - 770 potentially affected

Known accidents
BMW is aware of three minor accidents with no confirmed injuries as a result of this problem. The NTSB has 7 reported incidents but that does not mean they have 7 accident reports. Vehicles affected have experienced the failure at low millage. It is not clear if having a higher mileage car means you will not have the failure.

Should you continue to drive your N20/N26 powered BMW
BMW says it is safe to continue to drive your vehicle for now. As soon as you get the service letter that will be coming in December you should have the recall work performed. If you feel a loss of braking power pull to the side of the road and have your BMW towed to the nearest dealer by BMW Roadside Assistance.

Are 4 series deliveries going to be affected
BMW has not commented at this time on the 4 series. Models produced as recently as August are affected so it is possible early production 4 series (production started in July) will be held at the vehicle delivery center until the repair is available. We will continue to follow the 4 series delivery story and provided updated information as it happens.

What to do now
We have no choice but to wait for the letters and more information from BMW. In the mean time everyone be careful out there. There are 7 reported incidences of issues to the NTSB so far. The NTSB estimates that for ever report there are 40+ incidents that are not reported. Has anyone had trouble loss of brake assist in their N20/N26 powered BMW? Does this make anyone nervous to drive their BMW?

[bcornwellatl]

As far as I know mine was fixed. I mean technically they couldn't have sold me the car without fixing this... I really wish bmw would give us access to their database to see what repairs and work has been done to our cars...

[1N54E92]

Originally Posted by bcornwellatl

As far as I know mine was fixed. I mean technically they couldn't have sold me the car without fixing this... I really wish bmw would give us access to their database to see what repairs and work has been done to our cars...

you should be able to get it from the dealership.