[Antares]

Originally Posted by mdss6

Why all the hatchback hate in the English speaking world? I'm not a convertible person at all, but I don't go to convertible threads and bash convertibles. They are not my scene, but clearly there is a market for them. And I think it is great that people that want such cars can buy them. There are almost no rear drive hatchbacks available. What is wrong for people who want a rear drive hatchback to finally be able to buy one?

because some think buying a sedan with no cargo capability makes them more like Jenifer Lopez; rich girl sindrom.

[jasemsport]

Originally Posted by Ganxxta

It is Carbon Black, dark blue is NOT available with M-Sport (for whatever reason).

Also Carbon Black seems to be the marketing color for the 4GC, like Mineral Grey was for the 4 and Melbourne Red for the 2.


I just wish Carbon Black would be available for the normal 4 (non-GC)

Actually tanzanite blue is available as an individual color with m-sport in europe, not sure if US will...

But indeed right about carbon black on this particular car ;-) There are photo's of a 4 series convertible in tanzanite at the geneva car show, there you can clearly see the difference.

[wuzupfoo]

Originally Posted by BimmerNFS

Cant wait to see the 3 series coupe!

+1...

what a joke..

[chief]

why?

I like BMWs but this makes no sense...why the hell split the 3 series? So you can create this? why not just replace the 3 with this and be done with it...

[Luminor513]

BMW needs to realize that what worked on the 6 series and X6 doesn't translate into smaller packages. This 435 hatchback is a joke, same goes for the new X4.

[chrisny]

Originally Posted by R N M

Rear needs to be stretched another 5in.

^this

[chrisny]

Originally Posted by Luminor513

BMW needs to realize that what worked on the 6 series and X6 doesn't translate into smaller packages. This 435 hatchback is a joke, same goes for the new X4.

I disagree, what worked on the 6 would have worked. That's not what they did. They failed on execution, not the concept. I love the 6GC, but it's too big for my taste. Keep the ratios the same and just shrink it 20% or so and I'd love it. Where they failed is not making the 4GC longer than the 3 to achieve similar lines as the 6GC, which is 4 or 5 inches longer than the 5. Can't just slap a hatch on the 3 and expect the same result...

[dL.]

I wouldn't say this looks better or worse than the F30. I would say F30 looks masculine and muscular while this looks more elegant and grand.

I'll take a 4GC next. Looks beautiful to me.

dL

[jason rams]

As a dad in his thirtys this car works perfect for me looks like a coupe yet has 4 doors to please the wife and the hatch to fit all my sons stuff in. Count me as a fan and future owner.

[chrisny]

Originally Posted by jason rams

As a dad in his thirtys this car works perfect for me looks like a coupe yet has 4 doors to please the wife and the hatch to fit all my sons stuff in. Count me as a fan and future owner.

This is why I wanted to love it too. Just doesn't work for me without any extra length. My F30 looks better IMO, but if they stretched the 4GC 4 inches or so, would make it more practical and the lines would look more fluid like the 6GC.

[Ganxxta]

Does anyone know if BMW will make a 4GC Li for the Chinese market?

Would solve the too short back end of the real GC

[lawgone]

Originally Posted by Antares

because some think buying a sedan with no cargo capability makes them more like Jenifer Lopez; rich girl sindrom.

You're kidding, right? JLo is the last person I'd want to look like.

[Manbnda]

There's something about the current N55 300hp output that doesn't make sense to me in the new models. I guess BMW is keeping this engine for a while.
I suspect the new engine will have an output of no less than 350hp, to make it last against the competition and to make sense against the 330hp variation on the M235i and Z4 35is

[m630]

Originally Posted by Ganxxta

Does anyone know if BMW will make a 4GC Li for the Chinese market?

Would solve the too short back end of the real GC

that was the original plan, build it on the Li platform so that it did retain the elegance of the added length, ala 6er GC. but something happened and they went in a different direction

[MassBimmer]

Ugh, I am so unimpressed with this car. I wanted desperately to love it but I just don't. It does nothing for me

[EMpunker]

So what exactly is the purpose of this model? To achieve less headroom for the rear passengers as compared to the F30 sedan?

[itrocks4u]

So can I fit a baby seat in the back? Wanted the 4 series but baby seat issue was holding me back. Think they made it just for my situation lol.

[chrisny]

Originally Posted by itrocks4u

So can I fit a baby seat in the back? Wanted the 4 series but baby seat issue was holding me back. Think they made it just for my situation lol.

If you can't in the 4 coupe not sure the grand coupe is going to help you. It's not any longer so don't see how it would make any difference. That said, why is it an issue in the 4? I have 2 in my F30, one rear facing, one front.

Is the issue more the hassle getting the kids in and out of a 2 door?

[itrocks4u]

Originally Posted by chrisny

Is the issue more the hassle getting the kids in and out of a 2 door?

This. I love the 4-series. The only thing that would have held me back is the 2 door. gran coupe I'm hoping would solve that. Space wise, I don't think here's a big difference at the back for 3 or 4 series right?

[chrisny]

Originally Posted by itrocks4u

This. I love the 4-series. The only thing that would have held me back is the 2 door. gran coupe I'm hoping would solve that. Space wise, I don't think here's a big difference at the back for 3 or 4 series right?

Right, I believe.. Other than headroom, pretty much the same if I'm not mistaken. Though be careful with that lower roofline you don't lose any teeth getting them in and out lol. I've cracked my forehead once or twice even with the sedan

[sygazelle]

Originally Posted by Dippydo

I don't understand it. BMW first announced they were revising the model numbers so coupes were even numbers and sedans were odd numbers because they felt consumers were confused. Now they do this and introduce sedans in the even numbers. Being a product manager myself and always looking to simplify a line for a consumer to understand a line structure, this is like the ultimate sin of product management. Just when you thought they understood, they do this. Makes you wonder how unintelligent their PMs and marketing people really are.

Yet, here we are talking about it.

[Evan135]

I really, really like this car. It is a smaller Audi A7. It is gorgeous to me and more practical than a standard 3 series. I had a 135i and it limited how I could use the car. This one is larger but has similar underpinnings to the 135 and people can use the back seat and I can carry a host of different items.

Mostly I do find this more attractive than the any 3 series to date and better than a 4 series coupe, which looks too big to only be a 2 door. This fixes that. IMO.

Now how about the M version....