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I have always loved BMW sport seats. It is the most important option. They make their own when most other manufacturers buy them and have great support and comfort. I have put lots of miles on them.
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Again I see it more as design than quality. The quality of the interior materials in any BMW is very good versus the industry. These new Mercedes interiors are stunning to look at, but when you sit in one and feel around a bit, their materials aren't bad either but not necessarily beyond BMW in terms of amount of soft-touch material, plastic thickness, edge finish, and that kind of thing. BMW has just gone for a more austere approach and there is nothing new about that. The one exception in the F3X is the area around the shifter. That seems to have been a design problem for BMW, and they were unable to do anything but put a large piece of hard black plastic right there. They did a much, much better job on that space in the F10.
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On the mainstream side, it's even more drastic; from the interior, you'd never guess that the pre and post-refresh Mazda6 was the same iteration. We have a refreshed Sienna minivan, and the dash bears almost no resemblance to the pre-refresh model. Acura went pretty crazy with the ILX interior. There is plenty of precedent for huge interior overhauls in mid-cycle refreshes. |
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For the F3x Lear produces the seats for BMW. |
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When I drove the Model S it was awkward feeling that my right hand left hanging over the open space.
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On the other hand, Audi did not do the same with the B8.5, and a brand-new 2016 A4 you see on dealer lots today is still rocking pretty much the exact same interior as the first B8 A4 from 2008 (and actually managed to make the exterior look worse). It pretty much comes down to cost-benefit analysis. A significant mid-cycle refresh is usually only worth it if the cost is going to be quickly recovered through increased sales or if it is clear the car will fall too far behind the competition and lose too much sales. BMW obviously believes the F3x design is still strong enough to be a legitimate competitor in 2016 and therefore only a mild update was needed with the LCI that will see it through to G20's launch in 2019.
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This one at BMW of Seattle has a leather dash, nutmeg extended leather and the exterior color is Citrin Black Metallic: http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...19708206&Log=0
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Simple, not overly busy, most comfortable seats, best infotainment system, great ergonomics.
Did I miss anything? Oh yes...the best looking features: a third pedal and a manual shift knob
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The upper dash area and vents were changed to incorporate more varied shapes and materials so the overall visual presentation is more interesting than the large swaths of empty space and squared off elements of the pre-facelift dash. But yes overall it's still pretty antiquated looking even compared to the F3x, which has a more energetic and sporty interior, hence why I think BMW saw no need to do what Merc did with the W204.
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So...comparing Audi's "S" models with BMW's non-M? Take a look at the seats in an M3/M4 - much different than what's in the non-M models. Plus, you can order BMW Individual leather options as well as paint and trim. But let's compare apples to apples. Move up to the 5/6 and 7 series (comparable to Audi's A6 and A7/A8) and there's more than adequate parity between the two makes.
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The S4 is price-competitive with the 340xi; I think it's perfectly reasonable to compare the seats directly. That picture I posted is from an S3, which is roughly 328i-level pricing. And AFAIK, you can't get Merino on a 3-series in the states, just 4 series and above. The fact is, Audi offers bespoke seats on $40k-$50k cars, but you have to spend $65k+ to get them in a BMW. |
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I remain unconvinced. Zero results on Cars.com for 3-series with Merino, 23 results for 4-series with Merino. Several posts on here of U.S. members with Merino in their 4-series, none for 3-series (that I could find).
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