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      11-19-2017, 04:54 PM   #881
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Good info. You mean the NBT2 module itself, not the underlying CAFD though.
Wait, what?!
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Wait, what?!
After changing the FA to 6NS and saving. Right click on the folder symbol next to the NBT2, not the underlying CAFD and click code
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After changing the FA to 6NS and saving. Right click on the folder symbol next to the NBT2, not the underlying CAFD and click code
F**k. I think I right-clicked the underlying CAFD (with the green dot beside it) as opposed to the top level NBT2.

It's the CAFD when it's options like start-stop etc. isn't it? Damn. What a tosser I am.
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F**k. I think I right-clicked the underlying CAFD (with the green dot beside it) as opposed to the top level NBT2.

It's the CAFD when it's options like start-stop etc. isn't it? Damn. What a tosser I am.
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Stumped with this now guys - made sure to do all of the above but no success.

Even restored the back-up we took of the car and office functionality disappeared, but coding 6NS or 6NW only served to enable this. Still no telephone 2 option anywhere. Assuming that any car with ID5 from factory has the necessary hardware for EBT?

At a complete loss. If anyone can think where weve gone wrong then thatd be great but at this stage I give up!
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Stumped with this now guys - made sure to do all of the above but no success.

Even restored the back-up we took of the car and office functionality disappeared, but coding 6NS or 6NW only served to enable this. Still no telephone 2 option anywhere. Assuming that any car with ID5 from factory has the necessary hardware for EBT?

At a complete loss. If anyone can think where weve gone wrong then thatd be great but at this stage I give up!
Is yours definitely ID5, not ID6?
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Stumped with this now guys - made sure to do all of the above but no success.

Even restored the back-up we took of the car and office functionality disappeared, but coding 6NS or 6NW only served to enable this. Still no telephone 2 option anywhere. Assuming that any car with ID5 from factory has the necessary hardware for EBT?

At a complete loss. If anyone can think where weve gone wrong then thatd be great but at this stage I give up!
Don't give up

I've done it on my ID5 I'm sure we can get yours sorted too.

Just for thoroness, could you go through step by step exactly what you are doing? Even down to every button you press within Esys. This is just to cover all bases.
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Is yours definitely ID5, not ID6?
Mine is actually a 2016 LCI but with ID4. The car I'm trying to code is a mate's which is also a 2016 model (4 coupe) but has ID5.
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Don't give up

I've done it on my ID5 I'm sure we can get yours sorted too.

Just for thoroness, could you go through step by step exactly what you are doing? Even down to every button you press within Esys. This is just to cover all bases.
Ok sure - followed the same process that I did for my own car running ID4 which worked fine, so really am lost. Anyway, buttons pressed as follows:

1. Run E-sys Launcher
2. Once E-sys open, click on connection icon and select 'F020' not DIRECT
3. Connection establishes successfully.
4. In 'Coding' tab click on 'Read' then save down the file before clicking 'Edit'.
5. This opens the 'FA editor' tab.
6. Right-click 'FA' and then select 'Calculate FP'
7. Once vehicle profile populates on right hand side, I click down through 'FZAuftrag' to get to 'SALAPA element'.
8. In the bottom left box where the 3-digit VO codes appear, I edit 6NH to 6NS and then click 'Apply changes'.
9. I then click 'Calculate FP' again, and no error appears so I save the file.
10. I follow the optional steps by going into 'Expert Mode' and then 'VCM'.
11. Once in there I load the VO profile and again click 'Calculate FP'. I then go to the 'VCM master' box and click 'Write FA FP'.
12. I then click the 'Coding' tab and a pop-up appears asking me if I want re-load my data file in module 'Coding'. I click 'Yes'.
13. Once in the coding tab, I click 'Activate FA' (checking that the changes i.e. 6NW have pulled through) and then I click 'Read SVT'.
14. Once the SVT box populates, I scroll down to NBT2 and right-click and say 'Code' (taking care not to click the CAFD this time!!).
15. Once I click code, the script runs and iDrive reboots. The coding finishes showing no errors and I disconnect.
16. At this point, office etc becomes available when pairing new devices but telephone 2 does not appear (like it does in your screenshot above).

I can't see where I've gone wrong and have been back through this thread and the coding guide included with E-sys. The same method seemed to work for me on my own car with ID4
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Ok sure - followed the same process that I did for my own car running ID4 which worked fine, so really am lost. Anyway, buttons pressed as follows:

1. Run E-sys Launcher
2. Once E-sys open, click on connection icon and select 'F020' not DIRECT
3. Connection establishes successfully.
4. In 'Coding' tab click on 'Read' then save down the file before clicking 'Edit'.
5. This opens the 'FA editor' tab.
6. Right-click 'FA' and then select 'Calculate FP'
7. Once vehicle profile populates on right hand side, I click down through 'FZAuftrag' to get to 'SALAPA element'.
8. In the bottom left box where the 3-digit VO codes appear, I edit 6NH to 6NS and then click 'Apply changes'.
9. I then click 'Calculate FP' again, and no error appears so I save the file.
10. I follow the optional steps by going into 'Expert Mode' and then 'VCM'.
11. Once in there I load the VO profile and again click 'Calculate FP'. I then go to the 'VCM master' box and click 'Write FA FP'.
12. I then click the 'Coding' tab and a pop-up appears asking me if I want re-load my data file in module 'Coding'. I click 'Yes'.
13. Once in the coding tab, I click 'Activate FA' (checking that the changes i.e. 6NW have pulled through) and then I click 'Read SVT'.
14. Once the SVT box populates, I scroll down to NBT2 and right-click and say 'Code' (taking care not to click the CAFD this time!!).
15. Once I click code, the script runs and iDrive reboots. The coding finishes showing no errors and I disconnect.
16. At this point, office etc becomes available when pairing new devices but telephone 2 does not appear (like it does in your screenshot above).

I can't see where I've gone wrong and have been back through this thread and the coding guide included with E-sys. The same method seemed to work for me on my own car with ID4
You may be doing this but here's what works for me:

After I change the FA from 6NH to 6NS, I push the little button that looks like a open door next to the SALAP box

and then press the SAVE symbol (disk button at the Top).

Go back to expert mode and click Coding

Right click on FA and Activate FA

Then read SVT

Right click on NBT2 folder and code.

You don't need to write the FA back to the car

Edit: to be fair I can't see anything that stands out in your list. It all looks good

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has anyone coded ebt to a business nav car?? is it do able?
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Hi,

Can anyone point me to the installation guide? i dont have it.

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Can anyone point me to the installation guide? i dont have it.

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has anyone coded ebt to a business nav car?? is it do able?
I coded it to my mates 1 series with Bus Nav...which is what annoys the f**k out of me that I can't seem to get it to work on a newer ID5 car

The 1 series also has the older system where you also need to code the second module as described by Teaston on the first page of this thread.
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You may be doing this but here's what works for me:

After I change the FA from 6NH to 6NS, I push the little button that looks like a open door next to the SALAP box

and then press the SAVE symbol (disk button at the Top).

Go back to expert mode and click Coding

Right click on FA and Activate FA

Then read SVT

Right click on NBT2 folder and code.

You don't need to write the FA back to the car

Edit: to be fair I can't see anything that stands out in your list. It all looks good
I followed the guide here admittedly c.6 months ago and successfully coded EBT. I think Im a legend driving around with my 2 phones connected !!

I take my car into the dealers for an update and the nice lady at BMW asked me if I had coded the car with EBT... #awks

I take it this was because I incorrectly wrote the FA back to the car ? Im pretty sure I went through to step 10. In the which case should I have stopped at step 7, then completed the steps above in green to code from the locally stored file?

Therefore step 9 write FA FP would have been the point I accidentally and permanently changed the factory config on the car...? i.e. the point above in red ?

Therefore the next time I would have read the FAlist SALAPA-element, it would still read 6NH, despite having EBT enabled?

Thanks for educating
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I followed the guide here admittedly c.6 months ago and successfully coded EBT. I think I’m a legend driving around with my 2 phones connected !!

I take my car into the dealers for an update and the nice lady at BMW asked me if I had coded the car with EBT... #awks

I take it this was because I incorrectly wrote the FA back to the car ? I’m pretty sure I went through to step 10. In the which case should I have stopped at step 7, then completed the steps above in green to code from the locally stored file?

Therefore step 9 ‘write FA FP’ would have been the point I accidentally and permanently changed the factory config on the car...? i.e. the point above in red ?

Therefore the next time I would have read the FAlist SALAPA-element, it would still read 6NH, despite having EBT enabled?

Thanks for educating
I had the same problem after writing the FA to the car! Had to go down tk Coopers with my laptop to change it so they could update the car’s software!
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I coded it to my mates 1 series with Bus Nav...which is what annoys the f**k out of me that I can't seem to get it to work on a newer ID5 car
Where are you in Glasgow? I'm over in at the Hilton at Bellshill on Thursday. Should be done about 3pm (ish). Could have a look for you. Fresh pair of eyes and all that.
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Where are you in Glasgow? I'm over in at the Hilton at Bellshill on Thursday. Should be done about 3pm (ish). Could have a look for you. Fresh pair of eyes and all that.
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Stumped with this now guys - made sure to do all of the above but no success.

Even restored the back-up we took of the car and office functionality disappeared, but coding 6NS or 6NW only served to enable this. Still no telephone 2 option anywhere. Assuming that any car with ID5 from factory has the necessary hardware for EBT?

At a complete loss. If anyone can think where we’ve gone wrong then that’d be great but at this stage I give up!
For what it is worth, im getting the exact same results

I have a 2016 F36

All it does is enable Office. No telephone 2 shown

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You may be doing this but here's what works for me:

After I change the FA from 6NH to 6NS, I push the little button that looks like a open door next to the SALAP box

and then press the SAVE symbol (disk button at the Top).

Go back to expert mode and click Coding

Right click on FA and Activate FA

Then read SVT

Right click on NBT2 folder and code.

You don't need to write the FA back to the car

Edit: to be fair I can't see anything that stands out in your list. It all looks good
So I actually gave this a shot... fwiw it still writes the FA back to the car.

I loaded up my base FA, and re-wrote it back to the car. Then tried the steps you outlned. Looks like it still writes it to the car, because i tried doing a FA Read and it came back with 6NS instead of 6NH


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EDIT: Nevermind ... missed a step when i installed esys to prevent the FA from writing each time you do an FDL

On E-Sys Menu Bar, select "Options" and then "Settings" and on the "OPTIONS" Tab Uncheck the boxes for "Update VCM after TAL execution" and "Update MSM after TAL execution".
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Stumped with this now guys - made sure to do all of the above but no success.

Even restored the back-up we took of the car and office functionality disappeared, but coding 6NS or 6NW only served to enable this. Still no telephone 2 option anywhere. Assuming that any car with ID5 from factory has the necessary hardware for EBT?

At a complete loss. If anyone can think where we’ve gone wrong then that’d be great but at this stage I give up!
Came across this on the 2addicts forum:

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for example adding 6NS is the same as individually FDL code the following:

HU_NBT > AUDIO_TUNER_TRAFFIC 3002 > AUDIO_OFFSET = aktiv
HU_NBT > AUDIO_TUNER_TRAFFIC 3002 > MICROPHONE_NUMBER = wert_2
HU_NBT > EXBOX 3001 > USB_AVAILABLE = aktiv
HU_NBT > HMI 3000 > CDMM_USB_AUDIO = all
HU_NBT > SYSTEM_EINSTELLUNGEN 3004 > SOFTWARE_UPDATE_ASSISTANT = aktiv
HU_NBT > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > ADRESSBOOK = aktiv
HU_NBT > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > API_CAR_TYPE_IPOD_LOGO = bmw
HU_NBT > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > API_MP4_ON_OFF = aktiv
HU_NBT > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > AUDIO_PLAYER_ON_OFF = aktiv
HU_NBT > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > BLUETOOTH_2ND_HFP = aktiv
HU_NBT > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > BT_MODUL_ON_OFF = aktiv
HU_NBT > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > CALENDAR_EIN_AUS = aktiv
HU_NBT > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > CONTACT_BOOK_PICTURES = aktiv
HU_NBT > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > CONTACTS_EIN_AUS = aktiv
HU_NBT > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > DATACOMM_CSIM = aktiv
HU_NBT > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > EMAIL_EIN_AUS = aktiv
HU_NBT > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > ENT_BTAS_METADATA = aktiv
HU_NBT > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > EXTERNAL_CALL_LISTS = aktiv
HU_NBT > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > MACRO_PIM = aktiv
HU_NBT > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > PHONE_CONFERENCE_CALL = aktiv
HU_NBT > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > PHONE_TYPE = internal_phone
HU_NBT > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > PIM_BILDER_EIN_AUS = aktiv
HU_NBT > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > REMINDER_EIN_AUS = aktiv
HU_NBT > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > SINGLE_OR_MULTILINK = multilink
HU_NBT > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > SMS_EIN_AUS = aktiv
HU_NBT > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > SWUP_SOURCE_USBMSCDD = aktiv
HU_NBT > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > TASK_EIN_AUS = aktiv
HU_NBT > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > TEXT_NOTES_EIN_AUS = aktiv
HU_NBT > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > TWO_PHONES_PARALLEL = aktiv
source: http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1222935

I haven't tried it for myself yet, but sounds like this work for some NBT2 folks (mine is NBT2)


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EDIT:

Boom! that worked for me!

Only catch is that after you do this, go to the settings, and then bluetooth settings, and enable Bluetooth for office and Telephone 2.

Only thing i am missing right now is Album art when i play music through spotify, but not sure if thats just a limitation of Android ? Ill have to see if the wife's iphone shows album art

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Came across this on the 2addicts forum:



source: http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1222935

I haven't tried it for myself yet, but sounds like this work for some NBT2 folks (mine is NBT2)


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Boom! that worked for me!

Only catch is that after you do this, go to the settings, and then bluetooth settings, and enable Bluetooth for office and Telephone 2.

Only thing i am missing right now is Album art when i play music through spotify, but not sure if thats just a limitation of Android ? Ill have to see if the wife's iphone shows album art
Thanks for sharing your findings. I'm slightly confused as this is exactly what the VO coding is supposed to do. There are a few other settings that may need doing. This is what adding 6NS should change (below). However, I've also read some of these are missing in the F32:

HU_NBT_EVO > AUDIO_TUNER_TRAFFIC 3002 > AUDIO_OFFSET = aktiv
HU_NBT_EVO > AUDIO_TUNER_TRAFFIC 3002 > DAB_JOURNALINE = nicht_aktiv [Default]
HU_NBT_EVO > AUDIO_TUNER_TRAFFIC 3002 > MICROPHONE_NUMBER = wert_2
HU_NBT_EVO > EXBOX 3001 > USB_AVAILABLE = aktiv
HU_NBT_EVO > HMI 3000 > CDMM_USB_PORTS = usb1_sia
HU_NBT_EVO > HMI 3000 > OFFICE_MENUS_ACTIVE = aktiv
HU_NBT_EVO > SYSTEM_EINSTELLUNGEN 3004 > SOFTWARE_UPDATE_ASSISTANT = aktiv
HU_NBT_EVO > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > ADRESSBOOK = aktiv
HU_NBT_EVO > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > API_CAR_TYPE_IPOD_LOGO = bmw
HU_NBT_EVO > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > API_MP4_ON_OFF = aktiv
HU_NBT_EVO > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > API_MSD_EIN_AUS = aktiv
HU_NBT_EVO > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > API_USB_VIDEO = none [Default]
HU_NBT_EVO > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > AUDIO_NOTES_EIN_AUS = aktiv
HU_NBT_EVO > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > AUDIO_PLAYER_ON_OFF = aktiv
HU_NBT_EVO > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > BLUETOOTH_2ND_HFP = aktiv
HU_NBT_EVO > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > BT_MODUL_ON_OFF = aktiv
HU_NBT_EVO > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > CALENDAR_EIN_AUS = nicht_aktiv [Default]
HU_NBT_EVO > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > CE_DEVICE_SPEECH_RECOGNITION = aktiv
HU_NBT_EVO > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > CONTACT_BOOK_PICTURES = aktiv
HU_NBT_EVO > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > CONTACTS_EIN_AUS = aktiv
HU_NBT_EVO > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > EMAIL_EIN_AUS = aktiv
HU_NBT_EVO > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > ENT_BTAS_METADATA = aktiv
HU_NBT_EVO > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > MACRO_PIM = aktiv
HU_NBT_EVO > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > PHONE_CONFERENCE_CALL = aktiv
HU_NBT_EVO > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > PHONE_OBJPUSH_MENUE = nicht_aktiv [Default]
HU_NBT_EVO > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > PHONE_RESPONSE_HOLD = nicht_aktiv [Default]
HU_NBT_EVO > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > PHONE_TYPE = internal_phone
HU_NBT_EVO > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > PIM_BILDER_EIN_AUS = aktiv
HU_NBT_EVO > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > PIM_NEW_ELEMENT_AUDIO_NOTE = aktiv
HU_NBT_EVO > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > PIM_NEW_ELEMENT_EMAIL = nicht_aktiv [Default]
HU_NBT_EVO > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > PIM_NEW_ELEMENT_SMS = nicht_aktiv [Default]
HU_NBT_EVO > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > PIM_NEW_ELEMENT_VOICE_EMAIL = aktiv
HU_NBT_EVO > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > REMINDER_EIN_AUS = nicht_aktiv [Default]
HU_NBT_EVO > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > SINGLE_OR_MULTILINK = multilink
HU_NBT_EVO > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > SMS_EIN_AUS = aktiv
HU_NBT_EVO > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > SWUP_SOURCE_USBMSCDD = aktiv
HU_NBT_EVO > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > TASK_EIN_AUS = nicht_aktiv [Default]
HU_NBT_EVO > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > TEXT_NOTES_EIN_AUS = nicht_aktiv [Default]
HU_NBT_EVO > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > TWO_PHONES_PARALLEL = aktiv
HU_NBT_EVO > TELEFON_TELEMATIK_ONLINE 3003 > WLAN_DIAGNOSE = nicht_aktiv [Default]



Yes, the key is the "Settings". These, sort of, cover your steps when you code. There should be no obvious (to dealers at least) footprints. It's the update VCM that stops this for the FA. "Update MSM after TAL execution" I think i read somewhere is an update to some security database and may be needed for some things. Maybe a question for vorph and or shawnsheridan
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