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As far as body roll, I've pushed my 335i into some very tight curves, and it settles in really nicely. I think the optional M-Performance might be an interesting ride. But for now and after driving an E46 M3 with 19s for 6 years, I'm happy with what I ordered. No need for "Comfort" mode here.
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Another F30 driver told me he never heard what I described. I drove with him and sure enough, same noise. Some people just aren't bothered. |
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I've got my car booked in at the dealers Thursday because in my opinion the noises from the suspension just can't be right. Is it possible that all F3x with Adaptive sound like this? |
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If they come to the conclusion that this is state of the art (what would be a shame for this brand) I change the suspension against something from KW. They should be ready with an option for the xDrive within one or two month. |
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The F30 335i M-Sport with DHP (on 19s, run flat), in Comfort. Is farrrrr more harsh than an E9x M3 with EDC (on 18s, non-run flat), in Comfort.
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there's 2 more on these boards....but yeah, I'm in the minority.
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Haven't tried the adaptive suspension on the F30 so can't say anything about it, but I have driven a 2011 E92 M3 with Competition (EDC) and a 2013 Camaro ZL1 with Magnetic Ride Control, I have to say the GM's newest MRC technology is far superior compared to BMW's EDC.
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This review is a very important review and although I already have my car with Adaptive, I and I'm sure the whole board appreciates it. Not 100% scientific, but on the important parts, you both had agreed upon - Ride and Handling. The other points are likely more subtle, but also since you both agreed on Ride and Handling, odds are you are correct as I could understand how those impact Steering Feel and Noise. The final point ( Comfort Mode ) affirms to those who want a chameleon car as I did. I thank you because for me, I bought the car without trying Adaptive. I never knew if Adaptive really did satisfy exaclty what I wanted:
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Looking at something like the standard KW DDC kit, as introduced for some VW models, is not continuously adaptive, has 3 damper settings. The more advanced integrated kits use the existing electronics, so would need the base VDC already installed. Plus the KW kits are not cheap. HighlandPete |
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If we are just talking of the ability to change the fixed damping rate with an electronic control, then we are not comparing with BMW's adaptive damping control. The M-sport adaptive suspension is continuously active even from the base setting, it is using the 'sky hook' principle. Not just a switch for comfort or sport, as the aftermarket systems are commonly doing, like the KW DDC, or Bilstein Ride Control. HighlandPete Last edited by HighlandPete; 02-13-2013 at 06:19 AM.. |
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Suspension is subjective anyway, so drivers who prefer a fixed/totally predictable passive system may well feel adaptive is not their ideal suspension. IMO, there is no right or wrong, better or worse, simply different and how a user evaluates each system. The OP has been a long term user of VDC in his Golf GTi, so will clearly be familiar with the subtleties of VDC, particularly on poor road surfaces, where active suspension systems clearly outshine a passive system in finer aspects of car control. HighlandPete |
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