What do you dislike about the 340i?

Rob340i · 12-09-2017, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Gen13 F36

Usually you ask this question before you buy the car.

Like I said I did a lot of research before, I purchased the car, especially since i am paying $50k+ on something i have never driven. I know the car is a great car and have owned BMWs in the past. I really wanted to know what people are finding annoying about the car like the center consol, i have heard of the creaking complaints this is the first im hearing of it coming from the dash. Now I can start to look for this when i take delivery and posibly have a solution in mind or at least be mentally prepared for it so i am not overly dissappointed.
-Rob

marcu · 12-09-2017, 02:50 AM

My only dislike is that the backup cam comes on when reversing and I can not get it to default to the top view cams. My 335 f30 had this option and I miss that every day...

Other than that, a great car!!

ErkanTR16 · 12-09-2017, 08:58 AM

Here's a 7 page thread of people's perspective on 340i/440i

http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1257010.

B58 parts · 12-09-2017, 11:02 AM

I hate the texture of the fabric lining the glovebox.

B58 parts · 12-09-2017, 11:16 AM

whoops...

The center console is 10mil deep and may as well be deleted

Run flats .. no spare

'auto' rev match .. thankfully disabled or I'd have sold the car

Poor handling for how harsh the ride is ... missing some stiffening somewhere and the stock dampers feel like I got them from AutoZone

Engine/transmission mounts flop around a lot

Clutch pedal is too soft and shifter is too notchy, long throws.

Can't start in sport mode

That wheel to change tracks and yes they are on wrong side

Backup camera is 140p

Seats are not very comfortable, thigh bolsters should move up and in

Steering wheel leather is untextured

Wheel bolts instead of studs and nuts

No dipstick

Dual climate control with no lock together mode

Rear view mirror never gets dark enough / sun behind at dusk is blinding, can't do anything about it

Climb Mode · 12-09-2017, 11:54 AM

^^^^ pretty solid review. Agree with almost all of it, except that I happen to actually like the clutch feel and the 6MT throws.

I would add that the steering is horrible in almost every single way. Every time I get in a rental car I get a reminder of what actually having some feel to the wheel is like.

tuco44 · 12-09-2017, 03:24 PM

Wow....I am surprised some of you are even in a 340i given you have so many dislikes about it; some of which were known before you acquired a 340 (no dipstick, run flats, etc). I would get rid of it if I were you................

Kennybar112 · 12-09-2017, 03:55 PM

A lot of these complaints are general BMW quarks. No reason to not want a 340i. The B58 is by far the best inline 6 in a non-M car ever. M-sport styling is a must IMO. Only thing I do not like styling wise are the stock 18 inch wheels. The stock suspension on the 340i is definitely softer/less sporty then the previous e92 335i I had. This isn't really a complaint since I use this for my daily commute. Light steering is solved with sport mode.

chiefneil · 12-09-2017, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by YuminNuman

Wheel bolts instead of studs and nuts

I agree with most everything on your list except for this. BMWs have always had hub-centric wheels, and there are advantages that outweigh the PITA factor.

What I'd complain about instead is whether or not BMW is including a wheel-hanging tool in the toolkit; they used to, but I don't know if they still do. That's a little metal rod you screw into a bolt hole, then slide the wheel over when mounting to make life easier getting that first bolt back in. I believe lots of places sell them if you need one and BMW didn't include one in the toolkit.

Goody4 · 12-09-2017, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefneil

...BMW didn't include one in the toolkit.

I almost forgot. No more friggin' toolkit!

(I remember when BMW also included a rechargeable flashlight in the glove compartment. An idea that was brilliant. I used it all time, even for non-car projects.)

Buzzo · 12-09-2017, 05:02 PM

I'll temper your excitement: the steering feel is so atrocious I stopped daily driving it after five months. Now my wife chugs along in it and I take it out once a week to open up that sweet, sweet B58.

JDMAF · 12-09-2017, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Kennybar112

A lot of these complaints are general BMW quarks. No reason to not want a 340i. The B58 is by far the best inline 6 in a non-M car ever. M-sport styling is a must IMO. Only thing I do not like styling wise are the stock 18 inch wheels. The stock suspension on the 340i is definitely softer/less sporty then the previous e92 335i I had. This isn't really a complaint since I use this for my daily commute. Light steering is solved with sport mode.

No no no. Light steering is made wooden by sport mode. There is no setting on this car no matter how optioned that fixes the awful steering. None. Look, the 340 is a great car. If you like lexuses. If you like driver invlovement, steering feel, and value then you really have to look elsewhere or maybe at the M division. The B58 is the only truly exceptional thing about the car. Everything else is invisible and unexceptional. Sorry to say it. But it is true. My 2008 6MT X3 drove with more feel, passion and personality than this poor attempt. Just feels like BMW is trying to please too broad an audience.

Climb Mode · 12-09-2017, 08:25 PM

^^^^ very well said and totally agree regarding steering, and actually the whole car in general.

Glad to see some honest opinions on here, rather than just a bunch of fan-boy BS.

B58 parts · 12-09-2017, 09:25 PM

I agree. I never thought I'd say this but the f30 feels cheaply made and just doesn't impress me as a whole. They market this as a driver's car .. and it needs 10k of mods and noise/rattle adds to get there.

Half of the stuff they put in is for the eco friendly mpg sticker. I get .. 23 mpg.

Yes the engine is smooth but it's only fun between 55 and 7200, which due to the gearing means at least 71-80mph... space required. 3/4 throttle at 4k around town has no balls. The WRX wall of boost at 4k was in some ways a better daily. And it didn't body roll and flop around.

The steering sucks but for some reason it doesn't bother me that much..

There is no hanger but I'll just make one with a threaded rod and an angle grinder.

The only thing I really like about the car is the door handle and the cool air center vent. Ok and the engine at 5500+. It looks nice.

strumbringer · 12-09-2017, 10:36 PM

The dead spot in the steering. Sigh.

insanecoder · 12-09-2017, 10:59 PM

Absolutely nothing
the B58 is a gem
and imo the REAL reason you buy a 340
I love the way it sounds
I could go on and on..

kern417 · 12-09-2017, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by CJ421

The only thing I wish for on a daily basis is that the media track back/forward buttons were on the steering wheel. They were on the E92 I came from. Now I have to reach across to the other side of the dash to get to them. When you listen to music that has long intros it's nice to skip that stuff. It's especially awkward if you have passengers, to have to reach across the dash.

Charles

Just wanted to say you can do this from the steering wheel using the scroll wheel on the right. while listening to music, scroll up or down and the arrows pop up allowing you to skip to the next track.

eluded · 12-10-2017, 12:14 AM

Let's see?

? It's too heavy

? it needs more power, the low-end torque is fun but it will wear off quickly.

? No LSD. This is a really big deal for me. I did not realize how much I miss LSD even for basic Street driving.

? Run flats, they really suck.

? Steering is numb on center

? Possessed electronics

? Cost/unreliable/depreciation

Beek · 12-10-2017, 02:28 AM

I dislike the stock LED headlamps, wish I'd got the Adaptive and would have if the Euro version was available in the American market. Any issues I have with the steering are more than offset by the B58.

B58 parts · 12-10-2017, 05:30 AM

Good call on the lsd. That would be a nice add.

I think the jb4, sway bars, and some good coilovers will spin my perception around a bit. I'd like to avoid any bushings and the mounts but I suspect that is really what I want to fix. The chassis just doesn't have that solidness / tightness to it...

Most of my hate is minor gripes. But it's the little stuff that can drive you nuts.

RoundelM3 · 12-10-2017, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by CJ421

The only thing I wish for on a daily basis is that the media track back/forward buttons were on the steering wheel. They were on the E92 I came from. Now I have to reach across to the other side of the dash to get to them. When you listen to music that has long intros it's nice to skip that stuff. It's especially awkward if you have passengers, to have to reach across the dash.

Charles

Strange...my '13 335i has a thumbwheel on the right side of the steering wheel that allows me to scroll forward and backward through the tracks in my music collection (on the USB drive plugged into the armrest port). Have they eliminated that on the 340?

otay · 12-10-2017, 08:49 AM

It's funny reading threads like this. So many opposite views.

There's not much that bothers me about my 335i. It's quiet (never had squeaks), fast and handles well. I enjoy driving it every day, and will likely get another 3 series.

True that there's not much steering feedback, but enough overall (including seat of the pants), that you can sense what the car is doing.

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marcu Private 81 Rep 80 Posts Drives: 440i Coupe 2018 Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Netherlands iTrader: (0)	My only dislike is that the backup cam comes on when reversing and I can not get it to default to the top view cams. My 335 f30 had this option and I miss that every day... Other than that, a great car!! __________________ 2018 BMW 440i Coupe, High-Exec, MPPSK, HUD, Dig dash, touch-nav 2014 BMW 335, High-Exec, MPPK, MPE, HUD 2011 Audi A5 2009 Alfa 159 2005 Alfa 156
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ErkanTR16 64-bit 598 Rep 814 Posts Drives: 2018 BMW 340i xDrive Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Maryland iTrader: (0) Garage List 2018 BMW 340i xDrive [0.00]	Here's a 7 page thread of people's perspective on 340i/440i http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1257010.
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12-09-2017, 11:02 AM	#26
B58 parts Captain 476 Rep 797 Posts Drives: '17 340ix 6MT Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: US iTrader: (0)	I hate the texture of the fabric lining the glovebox.
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12-09-2017, 11:16 AM	#27
B58 parts Captain 476 Rep 797 Posts Drives: '17 340ix 6MT Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: US iTrader: (0)	whoops... The center console is 10mil deep and may as well be deleted Run flats .. no spare 'auto' rev match .. thankfully disabled or I'd have sold the car Poor handling for how harsh the ride is ... missing some stiffening somewhere and the stock dampers feel like I got them from AutoZone Engine/transmission mounts flop around a lot Clutch pedal is too soft and shifter is too notchy, long throws. Can't start in sport mode That wheel to change tracks and yes they are on wrong side Backup camera is 140p Seats are not very comfortable, thigh bolsters should move up and in Steering wheel leather is untextured Wheel bolts instead of studs and nuts No dipstick Dual climate control with no lock together mode Rear view mirror never gets dark enough / sun behind at dusk is blinding, can't do anything about it
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12-09-2017, 11:54 AM	#28
Climb Mode First Lieutenant 119 Rep 322 Posts Drives: G01 X3 M40i Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: USA iTrader: (1)	^^^^ pretty solid review. Agree with almost all of it, except that I happen to actually like the clutch feel and the 6MT throws. I would add that the steering is horrible in almost every single way. Every time I get in a rental car I get a reminder of what actually having some feel to the wheel is like.
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12-09-2017, 03:24 PM	#29
tuco44 Colonel 644 Rep 2,294 Posts Drives: 2018 340i xDrive M Perf Edtn Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Western Canada iTrader: (0)	Wow....I am surprised some of you are even in a 340i given you have so many dislikes about it; some of which were known before you acquired a 340 (no dipstick, run flats, etc). I would get rid of it if I were you................ __________________ 2018 340i xDrive M Perf Edtn Sunset Orange Previous BMWs - 19 others since 1971.
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Kennybar112 Private 11 Rep 49 Posts Drives: BMW 340i xDrive Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: NYC iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 BMW 335i xDrive [0.00] 2005 BMW 330CI [0.00]	A lot of these complaints are general BMW quarks. No reason to not want a 340i. The B58 is by far the best inline 6 in a non-M car ever. M-sport styling is a must IMO. Only thing I do not like styling wise are the stock 18 inch wheels. The stock suspension on the 340i is definitely softer/less sporty then the previous e92 335i I had. This isn't really a complaint since I use this for my daily commute. Light steering is solved with sport mode. __________________ 2017 340i xDrive Black Sapphire Metallic / Coral Red Fully Loaded
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Buzzo First Lieutenant 169 Rep 326 Posts Drives: MT 244'80 V70R'07 Golf R'19 Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: CT iTrader: (0)	I'll temper your excitement: the steering feel is so atrocious I stopped daily driving it after five months. Now my wife chugs along in it and I take it out once a week to open up that sweet, sweet B58.
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12-09-2017, 08:25 PM	#35
Climb Mode First Lieutenant 119 Rep 322 Posts Drives: G01 X3 M40i Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: USA iTrader: (1)	^^^^ very well said and totally agree regarding steering, and actually the whole car in general. Glad to see some honest opinions on here, rather than just a bunch of fan-boy BS.
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12-09-2017, 09:25 PM	#36
B58 parts Captain 476 Rep 797 Posts Drives: '17 340ix 6MT Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: US iTrader: (0)	I agree. I never thought I'd say this but the f30 feels cheaply made and just doesn't impress me as a whole. They market this as a driver's car .. and it needs 10k of mods and noise/rattle adds to get there. Half of the stuff they put in is for the eco friendly mpg sticker. I get .. 23 mpg. Yes the engine is smooth but it's only fun between 55 and 7200, which due to the gearing means at least 71-80mph... space required. 3/4 throttle at 4k around town has no balls. The WRX wall of boost at 4k was in some ways a better daily. And it didn't body roll and flop around. The steering sucks but for some reason it doesn't bother me that much.. There is no hanger but I'll just make one with a threaded rod and an angle grinder. The only thing I really like about the car is the door handle and the cool air center vent. Ok and the engine at 5500+. It looks nice. Last edited by B58 parts; 12-09-2017 at 09:33 PM..
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strumbringer Private First Class 45 Rep 162 Posts Drives: 2018 G30 540i xDrive Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Washington state iTrader: (0) Garage List 2015 Porsche 911 Turbo [0.00] 2016 BMW 340i xDrive [0.00] 2018 BMW 540i xDrive [0.00]	The dead spot in the steering. Sigh.
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12-09-2017, 10:59 PM	#38
insanecoder Banned 1410 Rep 3,211 Posts Drives: 340isDrive Join Date: May 2016 Location: East Coast USA iTrader: (0)	Absolutely nothing the B58 is a gem and imo the REAL reason you buy a 340 I love the way it sounds I could go on and on..
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eluded 2JZ-GTE 3029 Rep 3,991 Posts Drives: 340 6MT, 50e, others Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Sofia iTrader: (0)	Let's see? ? It's too heavy ? it needs more power, the low-end torque is fun but it will wear off quickly. ? No LSD. This is a really big deal for me. I did not realize how much I miss LSD even for basic Street driving. ? Run flats, they really suck. ? Steering is numb on center ? Possessed electronics ? Cost/unreliable/depreciation __________________ A man who views the world the same at 50 as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life.
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Beek Major 707 Rep 1,170 Posts Drives: Most folks crazy. Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: The Twin Cities iTrader: (0)	I dislike the stock LED headlamps, wish I'd got the Adaptive and would have if the Euro version was available in the American market. Any issues I have with the steering are more than offset by the B58. __________________ '16 340xi Mineral Grey/Black Leather, MPSS on 18" 398 Orbit Grey wheels, ZF 8HP50, MPPSK+CF Tips, ZTR, ZMP, ZTP, ZCW, ZDA, ZDB, Black Kidney Grilles. '09 Outback for a beater and grocery getter.
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12-10-2017, 05:30 AM	#42
B58 parts Captain 476 Rep 797 Posts Drives: '17 340ix 6MT Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: US iTrader: (0)	Good call on the lsd. That would be a nice add. I think the jb4, sway bars, and some good coilovers will spin my perception around a bit. I'd like to avoid any bushings and the mounts but I suspect that is really what I want to fix. The chassis just doesn't have that solidness / tightness to it... Most of my hate is minor gripes. But it's the little stuff that can drive you nuts.
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12-10-2017, 08:49 AM	#44
otay Major 826 Rep 1,342 Posts Drives: 2015 335i Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Raleigh, NC iTrader: (0)	It's funny reading threads like this. So many opposite views. There's not much that bothers me about my 335i. It's quiet (never had squeaks), fast and handles well. I enjoy driving it every day, and will likely get another 3 series. True that there's not much steering feedback, but enough overall (including seat of the pants), that you can sense what the car is doing.
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