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      02-04-2013, 04:52 PM   #23
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Ordered the 18" 400M, but think these should be made available on the 3 series

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Well highland Pete here's hoping the weekly scrub I'm giving mine pays off!! Joys of the north of Scotland!

F30AM if you've got the 400's maybe it's just me but they look quite similar to the 403's!? 5 multi spoke instead of 7 really being the only noticeable difference in design no?

Smaller obviously though! Hey but each to their own!!!
Different spokes for different folks! 18" so much easier to keep clean That extra inch and 2 extra spokes would be my undoing.
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Different spokes for different folks! 18" so much easier to keep clean That extra inch and 2 extra spokes would be my undoing.
Snap, whenever I choose alloys I think "how easy will they be to clean?". The standard alloys on the Luxury Line would have driven me mad
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Snap, whenever I choose alloys I think "how easy will they be to clean?". The standard alloys on the Luxury Line would have driven me mad
It could cause a divorce or even murder!
Those are god awful wheels IMO.
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Snap, whenever I choose alloys I think "how easy will they be to clean?". The standard alloys on the Luxury Line would have driven me mad
IMO the 19" are easier to clean, due to the inner rim being less visible. On the M Sport 18's you can clearly see the inner rim, so need to keep this extra surface clean. 19's all the way, set the car apart and as practical.
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IMO the 19" are easier to clean, due to the inner rim being less visible. On the M Sport 18's you can clearly see the inner rim, so need to keep this extra surface clean. 19's all the way, set the car apart and as practical.
I agree i have painted the inside of Mine Black so only the faces need*cleaning.
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I agree i have painted the inside of Mine Black so only the faces need*cleaning.
Saw a Mineral Grey M Sport in the car park today with the 18" wheels. It was dirty (as was mine), and have got to say the 18's look very ordinary when dirty. Mine even though dirty, still look 'special'. That's what you get from machine polished rims.
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Saw a Mineral Grey M Sport in the car park today with the 18" wheels. It was dirty (as was mine), and have got to say the 18's look very ordinary when dirty. Mine even though dirty, still look 'special'. That's what you get from machine polished rims.
Yes 18" wheels do nothing 4 me.
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Yes 18" wheels do nothing 4 me.
The 18 inch rims I've seen have been poorly finished on the inner face in comparison to the 19s.
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May all you 19" 'Size Queens' enjoy your extra inch until you kerb, repair, corrode! Oh, and enjoy the extra noise, worse handling and the rough ride! Bless.
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May all you 19" 'Size Queens' enjoy your extra inch until you kerb, repair, corrode! Oh, and enjoy the extra noise, worse handling and the rough ride! Bless.
Back to back drives, felt exactly the same to me, so not sure where you get all these downsides from

You drive into a kerb, your wheels get kurbed, if this driving behaviour is normal to you, then 18's, 17's 16's aren't going to help you, you need those japanese parking whiskers, lol, or steel wheels with plastic 'alloy style' hubcaps........£40 a set from Halfords
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Back to back drives, felt exactly the same to me, so not sure where you get all these downsides from

me to no difference in the drive or noise/ride !!
Just better wheels.
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The 19" wheels really set the car off, would have definitely had them if my budget had stretched.

We have the machine polished face on our Golf GTi alloys and so far so good with the car 3 years old in March, just need to look after them and keep the brake dust off every few weeks.
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The two F30s I drove had passive M Sport suspension. One had 18" and the other 19". 18" were better in this comparison on bad roads.
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Back to back drives, felt exactly the same to me, so not sure where you get all these downsides from

You drive into a kerb, your wheels get kurbed, if this driving behaviour is normal to you, then 18's, 17's 16's aren't going to help you, you need those japanese parking whiskers, lol, or steel wheels with plastic 'alloy style' hubcaps........£40 a set from Halfords
This is my experience too. The new generation run flats are much more compliant that the old ones.

The 19s are very comfortable on our roads.
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It is absolutely impossible for the ride and handling of 19" and 18" to be exactly the same. Anyone who thinks so or feels this is deluded.
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It is absolutely impossible for the ride and handling of 19" and 18" to be exactly the same. Anyone who thinks so or feels this is deluded.
Maybe not exactly, but no significant difference. We have varied road conditions here in NZ and I can honestly say the 19s are perfect. I also have adaptive suspension which may be a factor.
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It is absolutely impossible for the ride and handling of 19" and 18" to be exactly the same. Anyone who thinks so or feels this is deluded.
Factually correct of course but what we like here is subjective opinions.

I would suggest that ride improves with smaller wheels, larger tyre walls, handling improves with smaller tyre walls.

It therefore (IMHO) unreasonable to expect both to be better with 18' or 19'

Can the OP please advise what the dealer response was to the original issue?
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Car is booked in next week to try and remove paint defect from door (without re-spray) under warranty.

Whilst it is in they will also inspect the alloys. They did say that they have seen this issue on 5 series alloys but never on the new 3 series.

My gut feeling at the minute is they wont be able to fix the paint defect without a re-spray and they will say that the alloy problem will not be covered under the warranty.
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Car is booked in next week to try and remove paint defect from door (without re-spray) under warranty.

Whilst it is in they will also inspect the alloys. They did say that they have seen this issue on 5 series alloys but never on the new 3 series.

My gut feeling at the minute is they wont be able to fix the paint defect without a re-spray and they will say that the alloy problem will not be covered under the warranty.
Wheel/s: I hope this does not happen. It would be downright wrong of them. Is it just one wheel that's corroded?

Hairy Paint: This should be fixable with some gentle massaging.

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Factually correct of course but what we like here is subjective opinions.

I would suggest that ride improves with smaller wheels, larger tyre walls, handling improves with smaller tyre walls.

It therefore (IMHO) unreasonable to expect both to be better with 18' or 19'

Can the OP please advise what the dealer response was to the original issue?
Handling better? I read somewhere that a car shod with 18" was faster round a track than the one with 19".

Anyway, you're happy with 19", I'm delighted with 18" and have already cited many of the latter's advantages. End of story.
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