11-22-2012, 08:02 PM | #23 | |
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Better tires are, of course, better - providing superior performance of which both the driver and automated systems can take advantage. Better tires are often the best mod one can make to a car, second only to driver training. |
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11-22-2012, 11:14 PM | #24 | |
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For US-spec 328i, the front discs are 300mm. For EU/ROW-spec 328i, the standard front discs are 330mm. |
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11-23-2012, 01:23 AM | #26 | |
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NO sport or Msport should ever come from BMW with touring tires, EVER. Heck, no BMW period should come with touring tires. |
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11-23-2012, 01:33 AM | #27 | |
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Braking is more about the tires, but the feel is important in terms of how the driver perceives over all braking. My 135i and the E90's brakes have a better feel at the pedal. There is less travel before initial bite. Also to get more braking you apply more force with less pedal travel in the 135i and E90. With the F30 there is more travel to get more brake force, and that gives the impression that braking is not as good. But in reality it stops fairly quickly. I have an Msport which has the more "aggressive" brake pad compound. Initial bite and overall bite are a tad stronger, but the pedal still feels like the sport line or any other variant of the F30. Plus, I HATE the thunk from the brake pedal when it's released. This thunk was in every F30 I test drove. My 135i didn't have this at all, and neither did the E90's I drove. I had an E90 loaner a couple of months ago, a base Xdrive, and it's pedal action felt better than my Msport, and NO thunk on pedal release. BMW really needs to fix that thunk, and then fix the pedal feel. They did it right before so why not on a new model? If it ain't broke then don't break it, but they did. Last edited by RPM90; 11-23-2012 at 01:40 AM.. |
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11-23-2012, 06:14 AM | #29 | |
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http://www.nsc.org/news_resources/Re...g_with_ABS.pdf Under tips for driving ABS. Its reads like its broken down for someone who's never driving a car but it doesn't make it less true.National safety Council agrees & thats just the 1st one to pop up. There are many more I can list. Hopefully you'll accept that fact that if you're non ABS brakes lock on sheer ice , you're at the mercy of momentum until the car stops(objects in motion tend to stay in motion..you know physics)But if you have ABS in that situation, ABS keeps the brakes from locking and continues on slowing in conjunction with the brakes & tires instead of being at the mercy of the just the friction between your tires and the ice.You stated in ALL situation and thats not true,,its been tested and proven over and over again.MAybe you can adjust your driving to except that fact http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/Pubs/811182.PDF Heres another one. The NHST agrees, its a long read but in there it says the myth is that ABS will shorten your braking distance(which I fully agree ,in most case it takes longer to stop but not all). While this is mostly not true there are situations in which ABS will shorten your stopping distance (ice ). I'm sure the NHST has done more testing then you of me Last edited by Reznick; 11-23-2012 at 08:43 AM.. Reason: added more |
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11-23-2012, 06:16 AM | #30 | |
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"For all US-spec cars except US-spec M-sport, the pads are specific to US mkt. For US-spec M-sport, the pads are EU/ROW-spec. For US-spec 328i, the front discs are 300mm. For EU/ROW-spec 328i, the standard front discs are 330mm."
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11-23-2012, 07:28 AM | #31 |
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Same impressions I got here from a 328i sport which I had for a few days. The car had 12 miles on it when I picked it up. however, one of the immediate differences I noticed from my e90 were the relatively-mediocre brakes. I thought, well its new so probably the brakes just needing to adjust to the rotors. But 200 miles later, brakes had not improved much. Again, maybe they do get better with a few hundred miles, but apparently not.
The 328i and the n20 are an amazing combination. BUT, this is not a car designed for performance driven consumers. This car while amazing in its own right, will mostly please 9-5'ers who just use their bimmer for work, commuting, rentals or whatever. This is not a performance car in its commercial state at least. Having said that, I have full confidence that the 328i would complete most day to day tasks with ease, while truly putting any comprable competitor to shame. It's truly an impressive car, and the N20 paired with the 8 speed auto are great feats of engineering for BMW. |
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11-23-2012, 10:51 AM | #32 |
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I have a loaded though no line 328i and have been out to track days. It works just fine to me. Planning on going to laguna seca in dec with it. Am I not a perf driven enthusiast?
Question to OP. Where is your vision on a corner? Are you looking at the corner? |
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11-23-2012, 12:25 PM | #33 | |
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11-24-2012, 01:53 AM | #34 | |
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It was a quick curve which goes into a tunnel under an airport runway. The speed limit was 50, and everyone was at a dead stop right around the bend. My reaction time was excellent, but I think I would put more blame on the tires since I noticed a lack of grip. The breaks were weak as well, in my opinion. However, the best breaks in the world wouldn't help those tires out. There was a 135i behind me, but he had no problem stopping.... |
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