[Golfgeek]

Originally Posted by joewalton

For me.

I'm a father who lusts after a sleek coupe but needs 4 doors.

+1

[midwest 340xi 6sp]

Describes me to a "T" as well...For both F'30 and F'10 which are completely off my radar for next vehicle.

This GC has a little sexy to it, has some nice dimensions from my vantage point..I expect individual options to be announced and to your point, a next generation to the N55 as well.

Originally Posted by georgere

+1

I have been bashing BMW since the release of F30, but here it is - they finally made a car I like on the outside. On the inside (under the hood), I am still hoping there will be a new engine soon. N55 is too old to be the leading engine for 7 more years (or whatever the life expectation for 4GC model is). N55 has been around since 2008 - we want new motor, BMW

p.s. see? I m bashing BMW again. Maybe I need to get some .ex

[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

SPORT Automatic is standard, but one picture shows their standard automatic trans shift lever?

Not sure how a 435GC that is heavier than than a 335i has a quicker 0-60...

[Techjunkie666]

Originally Posted by unintelligible

It does look like rear visibility is going to be atrocious on this car. It took me a couple of looks before I realized just how much of the rear glass is covered up by the trim pieces on the inside of the car... the usable window portion is tiny.

Backup camera should be standard on this car for safety reasons, but of course it won't be.

+1 . Backup camera, side & top view camera would be something I get on this too.

I have been spoiled by the side & top view camera .

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by bradleyland

I really don't understand this logic. You're saying you wouldn't buy the car, so BMW shouldn't produce it. Because clearly the world revolves around you and buyers just like you.



Wait, lemme get this straight. A first time buyer looks at the BMW line-up, finds a car they want, buys it, and this kills BMW's marketshare while helping the competition? I'm really at a loss here.

Actually.. I believe he was saying... I would't buy an 4 series GC... because I already own an F30..... but if I hadn't already blown my wad on my F30.. DAMN that 4 Series GC looks good..

[Techjunkie666]

Hopefully they will have a M version of the 4 series GC. I hope by then they have figured out how to make the cabin creak a little less.

[Jason]

Originally Posted by Jason

The photo sets are global (not market specific) so a manual transmission being shown doesn't necessarily mean it's coming to the U.S.

Whether a manual transmission is announced later for the U.S. remains to be seen, but this U.S. specific press release only mentions an automatic transmission. I have no further info.

UPDATE from BMW regarding manual transmission:

Modern Line will not be offered in the US. US models will include the 428i and 435i and the only transmission offered in the US will be the 8-speed sport Steptronic automatic. Images showing the Modern line, 420d badging, manual transmission or cloth M Sport interior will NOT be applicable to the US market.

[F3_BMW]

What's the point of this car. I think you call it a 3 series

[southlight]

Originally Posted by glennQNYC

SPORT Automatic is standard, but one picture shows their standard automatic trans shift lever?

Pics aren't showing US spec cars but are from BMW Germany. Thus, some pics show options/specs that aren't available in the US, such as manual transmission or standard automatic.

See Jason's post above with update from BMW:

"Modern Line will not be offered in the US. US models will include the 428i and 435i and the only transmission offered in the US will be the 8-speed sport Steptronic automatic. Images showing the Modern line, 420d badging, manual transmission or cloth M Sport interior will NOT be applicable to the US market."

Best regards,
south

[Oliver1]

Originally Posted by unintelligible

It does look like rear visibility is going to be atrocious on this car. It took me a couple of looks before I realized just how much of the rear glass is covered up by the trim pieces on the inside of the car... the usable window portion is tiny.

Backup camera should be standard on this car for safety reasons, but of course it won't be.

Not a direct view from the review mirror but it looks like the center seatback is higher in the GC blocking visibility and to accommodate the hatch, the pillars are wider and the roof extends farther back.

[SamS]

Where will this car be built?

[Penguino]

I'm starting to dislike very much how BMW is following Audi steps. BMW has been the benchmark for many generations but right now from engine choices to vehicle nomenclatures and even vehicles themselves, BMW just does what Audi does. Makes me wonder if Audi is the new benchmark in the market or in BMW's eyes.

This vehicle went from Sexy to Daddy in a heartbeat. While I like this car, it just isn't a Gran Coupe. A Gran Coupe is a sedan (or four door version) of the same series coupe model. That's it. Nothing changes from that concept. This unfortunately is not. Does the 4-series have a hatch door? No! BMW made an incredibly design with the 6GC, but this unfortunately is not a Gran Coupe. They can call what they want, and psychologically attract buyers thinking this is a much cooler design but to me, is not. This went from being a sexy four door option for young executive buyers to a four door option for dads. This became a sexy wagon instead of a sexy sedan how it should be. While the car still looks great, it just isn't a Gran Coupe. This is just a sexier 3GT model.

I am very disappointed and I'm actually becoming very disassociated with the BMW brand after owning BMWs my entire life.

[johndeere]

Wasn't a fan of the 4 series coupe. Not a fan of this either. The boomerang, the much shorter tail than the concept, the much too obvious hatch with its resemblance to the 3GT...meh

Much prefer the f30. However, it will be interesting to see an M4 GC (if they decide to make one) I was considering the new m3 because of the 4 doors, but it looks too much like the 3 series to me and I think by the time my lease on the f30 is done, I'll be bored with the look so an M4 GC would be an interesting contender.

[Slow///1]

Originally Posted by Jason

UPDATE from BMW regarding manual transmission:

Modern Line will not be offered in the US. US models will include the 428i and 435i and the only transmission offered in the US will be the 8-speed sport Steptronic automatic.

Yikes. That's an odd choice for BMW considering we're the largest market for MT... Maybe an effort to keep purists happy with their F30?

[Mako]

Originally Posted by Techjunkie666

The rear glass reminds me of X6. Hope the viability isn't as bad as the X6. Also adding a wiper would have been a good idea.

This does remind of a A7

Rear reminds me of the old Z4 coupe, looks great

[khanyam4]

Doesn't look bad but when I heard 4 series gran coupe I was expecting something along the line of a baby 6 grand coupe which in I like very much.

[Golfgeek]

Originally Posted by unintelligible

It does look like rear visibility is going to be atrocious on this car. It took me a couple of looks before I realized just how much of the rear glass is covered up by the trim pieces on the inside of the car... the usable window portion is tiny.

Backup camera should be standard on this car for safety reasons, but of course it won't be.

Yes...what will rear visibility be... I commute an hour everyday with 6 million others and changing lanes is always an exercise one second from disaster. Now looking for a new car, sat in a 3GT at the showroom...nice, but don't even waste your time looking over your shoulder to check that blind spot (yes, I still do that and proud of it).

The hatch mechanism is located/ functions differently than 3GT, so it gives me hope BMW has improved this areas visibility.

[joewalton]

Originally Posted by Oliver1

Not a direct view from the review mirror but it looks like the center seatback is higher in the GC blocking visibility and to accommodate the hatch, the pillars are wider and the roof extends farther back.

These two views are confusing because one has a 3rd rear seatbelt and the other doesn't.

South- any idea whether or not the US version is a 5-seater or no?

[wzj519]

Is it going to compete with MB CLA?

[Mako]

I think both Jason and Scott mentioned there are no plans for a M4GC and Jason said that's from a very reliable source. I also think we would have seen test cars of the M version already if it was coming.

Reasons for not having one: no one else offers anything like it so maybe it's not needed, and it would just take sales away from the F80 and F82 while only adding to development costs (they feel if someone looking at a M3 against a C63 or ATS-V will not be swayed by a M4GC and they may be right). I don't think anyone has plans of a 4 door gran coupe the size of the F36.

Reasons for it: if you are going to make a heavy ass convertible M4 why not the GC? There Are many F30 owners looking to get a M3/M4 in the future but want something that looks different from their current car and the M4GC would be perfect. I am one of those (don't want to mess with car seats in the regular coupe). The F36 could be considered the flagship of the 3/4 series so it deserves a. M version. Also the M version would be the only way to get Merino leather in the US which a car like this should have as an option.

[southlight]

Originally Posted by joewalton

South- any idea whether or not the US version is a 5-seater or no?

The US version is a 4+1 seater as well. Judging from the pics, it's not suited to have 3 people in the back for longer drives.


Best regards,
south

[Mako]

Originally Posted by wzj519

Is it going to compete with MB CLA?

CLA is tiny compared to this. CLA would compete with 2GC if they made one.