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      02-20-2014, 08:13 AM   #45
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Regardless, whether it favours or Audi or BMW, HP doesn't mean a lot, BMW would rather tune the chassis. If you're going get angry about something with the F32 when it doesn't win comparisons, I wouldn't look at the N55 to blame.
Who is angry? Just pointing out your inaccurate information.
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I think that S5 lost by about 3 inches . I think there is a reason that the S4 is always tested against rwd BMW as opposed to a more direct comparo of x drive.
These are 3 great GT cars in this test.
Here's a comparison of AWD cars by motor trend

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...s/viewall.html
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I think we are starting to see a trend where the f3Xs are beating the S4/5s. The s4 got beat by the 335i xdrive and now the 435i beats the S5, apparently not the first time either. I don't see why this should surprise anyone though
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Regardless, whether it favours or Audi or BMW, HP doesn't mean a lot, BMW would rather tune the chassis. If you're going get angry about something with the F32 when it doesn't win comparisons, I wouldn't look at the N55 to blame.
Who is angry? Just pointing out your inaccurate information.
My comment wasn't directed at you, it was more for the poster I quoted originally claiming that BMW is slacking because they're still using the 300HP N55 vs. Audi's "dynasty" of V6's putting out 30 or whatever more HP, basically saying that the 435 isn't good because of it which is complete rubbish.
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I think we are starting to see a trend where the f3Xs are beating the S4/5s. The s4 got beat by the 335i xdrive and now the 435i beats the S5, apparently not the first time either. I don't see why this should surprise anyone though
Shouldnt surprise anyone. S4/S5 won for a few years until latest 3 and 4 came out. B9 Audis will be ouit in a year or so and they will win, and then BMW will come out with their latest and will win and then Audi will..........
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How come in every review BMW participates in, BMW cars win. I love my BMW and really think they used to be good cars for the money (they seem to become more $$$ lately), but common, don't you think if every review was fair and true AUDI and MB would be out of business?
I personally just got tired of these reviews and the outcome is known w/o need to read it. BORING
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I think we are starting to see a trend where the f3Xs are beating the S4/5s. The s4 got beat by the 335i xdrive and now the 435i beats the S5, apparently not the first time either. I don't see why this should surprise anyone though
I thought s4 won against the 335 in motor trends head to head.
I personally think audi has a better build quality and better interior. I prefer the E9x
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Remember that when the B9 comes out........
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How come in every review BMW participates in, BMW cars win. I love my BMW and really think they used to be good cars for the money (they seem to become more $$$ lately), but common, don't you think if every review was fair and true AUDI and MB would be out of business?
I personally just got tired of these reviews and the outcome is known w/o need to read it. BORING
is this serious or sarcasm? It just lost to the Cadillac I believe. Not everyone reads the reviews that you read and pace on a racetrack etc isnt on the top of everyones list. What some think is a nicer interior or exterior some think otherwise.
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Remember that when the B9 comes out........
There is at least 2 years between now and then, thats enough time for the LCI
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How come in every review BMW participates in, BMW cars win. I love my BMW and really think they used to be good cars for the money (they seem to become more $$$ lately), but common, don't you think if every review was fair and true AUDI and MB would be out of business?
I personally just got tired of these reviews and the outcome is known w/o need to read it. BORING
is this serious or sarcasm? It just lost to the Cadillac I believe. Not everyone reads the reviews that you read and pace on a racetrack etc isnt on the top of everyones list. What some think is a nicer interior or exterior some think otherwise.
Actually both with being serious more then being sarcastic. I agree with what you are saying but at the same time there are many performance oriented drivers who choose other brands than BMW despite these "great" reviews.
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I remember the days when Mercedes styling looked good. It seems they're in an Acura and Lexus rut where they have no idea what they're doing or how they want their cars to look. I like how Audis and BMWs have always looked like Audis and BMWs - they have character, an identity.
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I remember the days when Mercedes styling looked good. It seems they're in an Acura and Lexus rut where they have no idea what they're doing or how they want their cars to look. I like how Audis and BMWs have always looked like Audis and BMWs - they have character, an identity.
They are the Euro Cadillac.
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Here's a comparison of AWD cars by motor trend

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...s/viewall.html
IMO Audi and BMW has basically switched positions. Look at the final comment and how they say the S4 is the athlete and the 335i they say it is the all around car. Not too long ago it was the Audi which was considered the all around and the 3er the athlete of the segment.
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IMO Audi and BMW has basically switched positions. Look at the final comment and how they say the S4 is the athlete and the 335i they say it is the all around car. Not too long ago it was the Audi which was considered the all around and the 3er the athlete of the segment.
About the same time BMW was considered the tosser's car and now Audi is?
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How come in every review BMW participates in, BMW cars win. I love my BMW and really think they used to be good cars for the money (they seem to become more $$$ lately), but common, don't you think if every review was fair and true AUDI and MB would be out of business?
I personally just got tired of these reviews and the outcome is known w/o need to read it. BORING
This is the first time I've seen the F3x win a comparison article. More recently the Caddy ATS was chosen and in another article the Lexus was chosen as a better sports sedan than the BMW.
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