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If I were to complain about the sound of a diesel, it's the lack of sound, and the limited options for aftermarket exhaust. 2014 is the real "year of the diesel" in the USA: -Audi A6, A7, A8, Q5 all will have diesel models in the US. A4 will come later. -5 new BMW diesel models as we already know. -Jeep will have a new diesel Grand Cherokee. -Mercedes GL-class and E-class will get 4-cylinder diesel options -Mazda6 SkyActiv Diesel this summer, an innovative low-compression motor -Dodge is putting a small V6 diesel in their RAM 1500 (not to be confused with the bigger Cummins-based trucks) -Chevrolet will be selling a diesel Cruze. -Volkswagen will likely bring its diesel hot-hatch, Golf GTD, to the US next year And to all the nay-sayers who have repeatedly told me that diesel was dead over the past couple of years...
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Don't feel bad. English is my primary language and I still don't understand what he said.
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Regarding the sound though, I haven't driven nor seen 3.35d and 3.28i, so I cannot compare. I have driven 3.20d and 3.20i. The sound isolation is great in these cars, yet still the difference is apparent. And I am not actually talking about the level of the engine, but it is the pitch (the vibration you feel inside, that is like a tractor) that I dislike for the most part. After all it is all about priorities, choices, and preferences. |
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Over the years there have been a number of vocal individuals on this forum using the 335d as an example to show that diesel was a dead-end in the North American market.... but I digress.
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I was coming at this from a standpoint of exploiting the euro/dollar exchange rates. I know what I proposed wasn't possible for a variety of tax, protectionist reasons. No I'm not european but I love going there and go there a lot but am glad I was born here in the US.
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I'm sure you did this but the other 99% of europeans are NOT converting their money into dollars & buying cars here in the US. Yes or no??
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i just ordered a 318d f30... the consumer price would be just shy of $50k. But because it's a company car i managed to get some discounts. When you drive more then 20.000km a year, it's really not a question if you should take diesel or gasoline. MPG is usually 20-30% lower for a diesel, and the diesel prices are still 10-15% lower then gasoline (atleast here in belgium).
It might not be the most sporty engine, but this is in my opinion not because of an engine is gasoline or diesel. I've driven gasoline, LPG and diesel a lot... i find diesel to be the most comfortable, and modern diesels (e.g. my 118d) have enough grunt for a sporty ride.... though i wish the 320d would have been an option driving sporty doesn't mean you should rev it up as much as possible, having great torque when exiting the corner and a less nervous ride is worth more to me... but that's just my (biased ?) opinion. If I would be loaded, i'd go for the M550xd... not the M5. maybe.... one day.... |
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Well, to those people who still believe that: welcome to the 21st century
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Germany doesn't use dollars. Whatever Germany uses as money, their 1 isn't equal to $1. UK doesn't use same monetary unit as Germany and their unit isn't equal to 1$ nor is it equal to 1 German monetary unit. So, yes, if you want to know how many dollars a car costs somewhere in Europe, you have to multiply A (number of monetary units they use) with B (number of current exchange rate with USD). AxB = price in USD. As far as importing cars, when Euro was 1.6 dollars, it made the news here but only for cars worth a lot of money (7 series, Porsches, S Klass and so on). Thing was completely legal. Right now it is not worth it with Euro being only 1.3 dollars.
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For utilitarian purposes (going from house to work, for example) NOTHING is better than diesel right now. As a matter of fact, I commute, shop and generally function using my TDI. The car in the signature picture is ONLY for driving. Where driving means no destination, on roads that have little or no straights, no traffic lights, no Stop signs and, above all, no other "drivers". I absolutely LOVE commuting and generally functioning in my diesel. Sometimes I even take it for driving and it makes me smile. But make no mistake, you want gasoline, high-revving car for equivalent of motoring orgasm. It's not about power as you imply in your post, it is about high revving and sound. Double-clutched and rev-matched downshift at 6,000 rpms before storming the corner in a prayer to remain alive at the exit is something you just can't do it so perfectly in the diesel - at least not in diesels we get in U.S.
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I don't mind 500 lbft at 2,000 rpm either. Just not while exiting a corner on a wing and a prayer
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Model sold in Europe however often do not pass EPA emission regulations (but to be fair, some US only models would not pass Euro6 either, especially considering light trucks). But this is because it is easy to castrate an engine by changing the airbox or the cat, and meet an emission goal just by tweaking 2/3 parts. It would cost more money to design and assemble different cars for different markets that would be "less safe". |
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