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      02-24-2017, 12:16 PM   #111
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I don't know how strong your body resistance is, but most normal people including myself have to take a 15 to 20 mins short break after driving for a few hours. I drove all the way from here to an island in Croatia last summer, that's around 1300 miles, so i know how many times i had to stop and rest. You can charge it up for free at superchargers when you're having a cup of tea or taking a sh!t.

I've also driven to Croatia numerous times (wife is a Croat). I always filled up at at Folkestone and then did my one and only European fuel stop in Austria.

I suspect the 440i would need a few more stops that the 3.0TDI A7 I used last time.

It's a great road trip and some of the mountain roads are sublime.
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      02-24-2017, 01:15 PM   #113
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And then the battery went flat
Wonder how far ahead the 335d would get whilst the Tesla was charging?
I don't know how strong your body resistance is, but most normal people including myself have to take a 15 to 20 mins short break after driving for a few hours. I drove all the way from here to an island in Croatia last summer, that's around 1300 miles, so i know how many times i had to stop and rest. You can charge it up for free at superchargers when you're having a cup of tea or taking a sh!t.
I'm glad you seem to think you have your own personal super charger system everywhere you go . Chances are you have to wait for some other guy to finish having a shit....as you put it, before you get your go.

And that 1300 mile trip you talk of? That is probably about 7-8 super charger visits. Glad I don't drive with you because It'd drive me mental having to stop that often.
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I read recently that with a Tesla, the real range of you're on a steady motorway cruise at around 90mph is 150 miles. Even if it's 200 it's still not enough for me to consider it for European road trips.

Too many times have I needed to put the foot down and crack on in order to make a ferry!
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I read recently that with a Tesla, the real range of you're on a steady motorway cruise at around 90mph is 150 miles. Even if it's 200 it's still not enough for me to consider it for European road trips.

Too many times have I needed to put the foot down and crack on in order to make a ferry!
That's pretty hopeless if true. Even if 200 miles, the real range becomes closer to 150 as you have to stop where the service stations are, not where the range becomes zero.

To be honest, that kind of range would be a complete pain even on a short-ish 100 miles there and back in a day trip. Ensure you are fully charged when leaving, charge again at destination, then have a car sat in the drive with less than 100 miles range...so, charge again.

Whereas my 440i will have 200 miles range remaining without having the pain of the recharge, an x35d will probably be over 250 and a real miser like a 320d will have 3/4 of a tank of fuel left.
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The way I use the 330e, is usually 100-200 miles per day, and so a Tesla would be superb in this regard.

But overall I agree, it's just not quite yet where I need it to be to go completely electric.

But I won't be changing cars for another couple of years at least so hopefully the battery tech will have moved forward that bit further.
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You can charge it up for free at superchargers when you're having a cup of tea or taking a sh!t.
You've missed that boat mate, unless your order is already in then your tea and ablutions are going to be taken whilst the meter runs up a charge.

The Supercharger network was an essential sale enabler initially and also a clever marketing trick that benefitted early adopters and promotes the brand, but from this point on it has a sharply decreasing benefit from what I can see.

What it will also ultimately achieve is an ongoing income stream for Tesla as they profit from the energy sales as well as the car sales in a way that no other manufacturer has done (ever bought from a BMW-branded fuel station?).

He's a clever man that Mr Musk and I applaud his business vision in exploiting the (in hindsight, glaring) gap that the existing OEMs left - but friend of the consumer and planet saving altruist?....ermmm, no.
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