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      04-03-2018, 09:38 AM   #1
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Wheel paint flaking

I just bought a 2015 428i Gran Coupe (Sport Line). The wheels have started to flake. Is this normal or does it look like these wheels were repainted prior to sale? If it's normal is it covered under warranty?

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      04-03-2018, 09:47 AM   #2
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I just bought a 2015 428i Gran Coupe (Sport Line). The wheels have started to flake. Is this normal or does it look like these wheels were repainted prior to sale? If it's normal is it covered under warranty?

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Those look undoubtedly repainted. I'm fairly certain these wheels (style 397) have machined faces from the factory. Either way, that paint finish isn't smooth enough to be factory paint.

Edit: OP, there is dust and/or hair in the repaint. Is this CPO? Ask them to replace your wheels if so.
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      04-03-2018, 09:51 AM   #3
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id look into having the dealer replace them. see what they say. if anything have them refinished on their cost if you just got the car from a BMW dealer and is a CPO.
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      04-03-2018, 11:13 AM   #4
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I bought it online from Carvana. I'm contacting them. I'll post how they handle it.
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I doubt they do anything. They may good will it and have them refinished by one of those travelling wheel repair people.
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The way itís flaking it looks like some sort of plasticote type paint?
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      04-03-2018, 02:59 PM   #7
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It does look like plasti paint. Can you touch it and see if it feels rubbery. Try and see if u can peel it and if it's like peeling off rubber
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      04-03-2018, 06:28 PM   #8
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They have definitely been refinished by some manner (and if paint very poorly). Surface is way too rough for factory. The smooth metallic grey you see underneath is the factory finish.

Had this been the factory finish degrading a BMW dealer would no doubt have them refinished under warranty (if the car is still under warranty).

I have personal experience with this happening on a set of oem wheels on previous cpo bmw I owned...

Now whether carvana is gonna do anything??

Doesn't hurt to ask
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The wheel looks smooth under so either they dipped it, or painted it without properly scuffing the finish. If its dip - your in luck - just peel it; it actually protects the original wheel. If not - good luck - as paint is another story. It looks to me like someone did a real sloppy dip job and sprayed right over the lugs. When the lugs were removed, the coat was broken and started tearing. I like the original color - does it work with your car? If not, you can re dip for $50 - just make sure you remove the wheels. I love my black dip, and get lots of complements (from chicks btw - who's opinion I care about, as opposed to insults from trolls on a forum whom I don't)...

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It also looks like the calipers have been painted as well since the stock ones are matte and rusty when untouched after a very short time (normal but ugly). I have never heard of dipping calipers, since the heat and dip are not really compatible, but hopefully they used a separate caliper paint...

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Carvana customer service has forwarded my issue to an after sales team.

I did a little more fingernail scraping on one wheel. It's not plastic dip paint, it's flaking off in hard chunks and not peeling, but it is easy to remove.

Under the paint, the face of the wheel arms do have some light scuffing (probably prior to painting) but the inside of the wheels arms have none and that's where the peeling started. You have to be very close to see the scuffing.

Any suggestions for removing the paint besides my fingernails, that'll take hours. Do you think a light 600 or 1000 grit wet sandpaper to remove the scuffing will work?

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A pressure washer from close distance.
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By any chance did you get brake cleaner on them?
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By any chance did you get brake cleaner on them?
I haven't used brake cleaner on them.
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That sucks man, keep it where it is now and have carvana take care of it as it looks extra shitty. Are you still in the 7 day return period? They should step up in any event, especially if you infer this was them covering up something. I have found that filling out a simple online form at Texas state attorney generals office is all it takes to kick a business into action.

If all fails, keep an eye on craigslist and ebay for take offs - I got an unbelieveable deal on some take offs from a 2017 440 with 4 miles on them. If thats not in the budget, you can try the powerwash, then dip them. Good luck!
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A pressure washer a couple inches from the wheel should help take that paint off really well. A detailer may be able to remove the scuffs from the poor prep.

If it doesn't work out, you could always have them refinished with the original colors (silver wheels with machined faces) or have them powder coated to a color of your choice (maybe gloss black would look nice?)
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Carvana said they would give me $400. I'll take it and see what happens when I power wash them.
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Carvana said they would give me $400. I'll take it and see what happens when I power wash them.
Even if the pressure washer doesn't work out, that should be enough (or at least close to enough) to get them powder coated!
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Even if the pressure washer doesn't work out, that should be enough (or at least close to enough) to get them powder coated!
I was thinking the same thing. I'll post pictures after the pressure washing.
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I pressure washed the 1st wheel and it's not too bad. The face of the arms do have some scraping, maybe I'll just refinish them.
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I pressure washed the 1st wheel and it's not too bad. The face of the arms do have some scraping, maybe I'll just refinish them.
Wow. They did NO prep before painting that wheel.
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after looks better to me anyways. the ferric gray and machined > hypersilver
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Might be worth paying a detailer to polish them up like new, or like said previous get them refurbed proper.
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