[OverDriven]

Originally Posted by turbolag

S5.

A5 = 428i, which is also turbo 4.

The 435i is more comparable with the S5.

The problem is that an optioned S5 approaches $60K. The M4 is probably going to start around $64K.

[turbolag]

Originally Posted by Strykaas

No you're not alone. I am waiting for the 4 series to become available at dealerships to confirm that, but the A5 coupe is still a perfect design to me. Too bad it's FWD.

It's AWD. Quattro...

[visualguy]

The Audi is more elegant, while the BMW is more aggressive-looking.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by Strykaas

Really fugly ?

I think both cars look great. We are forgetting that the A5 has YEARS on it now and were looking at the new F32 .

There is NO doubt when the A5/S5 was introduced it was (and is) a sensual and stunning design.

[Ti335]

Originally Posted by ZigmundUK

Audis age very quickly in general. The A5 is not an exception to that. BMWs generally take more getting used to, but tend to hold their looks for longer...

it's all subjective right?

Funny, I find the opposite to be true. 10 year old A4's (B6) and A6's (C5) still look good, while BMWs from the same era (E46 and E39) look downright ancient. Audi's design is fairly conservative to begin with, and changes from generation to generation are gradual. BMW and Mercedes tend change their styling radically (i.e. think E39 vs. E60 v. F10), so once a new model comes out, the old one instantly becomes outdated.

[Ti335]

A5 S-line (pre-facelift):

[turbolag]

Originally Posted by OverDriven

The problem is that an optioned S5 approaches $60K. The M4 is probably going to start around $64K.

M4, 64k? What? No way...lol. It'll probably start at $67-68k, and go up to $75k optioned.

The S5 for me costs $58k optioned. But then I need very little in my car, and I don't need thing such as Nav etc. so all I optioned was nappa leather suspension, and sport diff. A 335i xDrive costs $54k. And that's the old model...then new 435i xDrive will likely cost about $60k, optioned. Then the next gen S5 will cost about 63k...ah, never mind. The S5 will cost more than the 435xi.

Prices are increasing...but I'm pretty sure BMW will offer a better driving experience, regardless. And I won't go with Audi, if only because in a sports car I want RWD.

[Russkey]

435 or M4 ftw! Never liked Audi cars except R8.

[faucj]

I like the pre-facelift A5 best, then the current A5, then the 4-series.

It's true about seeing the A5 in person. Photos don't do it justice. It has a kind of chunky, low and wide look. That said, I'll reserve my ultimate judgement until I see the 4 in person.

However, it seems overstyled to me. I always liked that the 3-series Bimmer coupes were sporty and subtle. They seemed cleaner and classier.

This is the first time I really wouldn't consider a BMW 3/4 coupe.

[clbmw]

Hmmm...

[White Shadow]

Originally Posted by faucj

I like the pre-facelift A5 best, then the current A5, then the 4-series.

It's true about seeing the A5 in person. Photos don't do it justice. It has a kind of chunky, low and wide look. That said, I'll reserve my ultimate judgement until I see the 4 in person.

However, it seems overstyled to me. I always liked that the 3-series Bimmer coupes were sporty and subtle. They seemed cleaner and classier.

This is the first time I really wouldn't consider a BMW 3/4 coupe.

I actually really like the 4-series from what I've seen so far, with the exception being that silly side vent. I like that they made the 4-series more proportional to the A5, with a wider and lower stance.

As an A5 owner, I have to agree with you on the pre-facelift cars being much better looking than the post-facelift. Lucky for me, I got mine before the facelift.

You guys don't have any good real-world pics of the pre-facelift A5 with the Sports Pkg (but non-S Line), which in my opinion is the best-looking model. So here's a few shots of mine. Appearance-wise, my car is 100% stock with the exception of the aftermarket exhaust system.

[White Shadow]

Originally Posted by Strykaas

... the A5 coupe is still a perfect design to me. Too bad it's FWD.

The A5 is quattro AWD. And BTW, the AWD system is RWD-biased, so it actually feels like a RWD car. The A5 even has a longitudinally-mounted engine.

[ghettodefendant]

Originally Posted by White Shadow

The A5 is quattro AWD. And BTW, the AWD system is RWD-biased, so it actually feels like a RWD car. The A5 even has a longitudinally-mounted engine.

Not all are AWD FYI.

[White Shadow]

Originally Posted by ghettodefendant

Not all are AWD FYI.

In my country they are. No such thing as an A5 without quattro here.

[John Weiss]

Hello guys!

I want to start off by saying that the new 4-series do look good.

I'm sure, with each new re-design, the point is to make a better product.

With that said, I prefer my RS5 over the new 4-series.

The current A5 is a mild redesign/face-lift, but Audi will come out with an entirely new redesigned A5 in the next 2 to 3 years.

The current A5 model is over 5 years old.

I do sure hope that the new 4-series, for MOST car enthusiasts, would persuade them into purchasing more 4-series than A5s, simply because it is a newly redesigned (completely) model.

It is just a game of cat and mouse or "catch up".

As in all cases, it is subjective.

I have some photos of my RS5.

Here they are, and I hope you guys like them (the photos):

[ecaedus]

Originally Posted by OverDriven

The problem is that an optioned S5 approaches $60K. The M4 is probably going to start around $64K.

M435i will definitely hit the $60k mark in a well optioned form(nav, prem, sport-auto etc.)

[N-Y]

Originally Posted by John Weiss

Hello guys!

I want to start off by saying that the new 4-series do look good.

I'm sure, with each new re-design, the point is to make a better product.

With that said, I prefer my RS5 over the new 4-series.

The current A5 is a mild redesign/face-lift, but Audi will come out with an entirely new redesigned A5 in the next 2 to 3 years.

The current A5 model is over 5 years old.

I do sure hope that the new 4-series, for MOST car enthusiasts, would persuade them into purchasing more 4-series than A5s, simply because it is a newly redesigned (completely) model.

It is just a game of cat and mouse or "catch up".

As in all cases, it is subjective.

I have some photos of my RS5.

Here they are, and I hope you guys like them (the photos):

I love this RS5.... the grill especially, its just so damn sexy and has that monster look... I was looking at one point at A5 or S5 and if i went that route, I would have got the RS5 grill for it

wouldnt mind seeing pics of your car on the side, so i can see your wheels

[John Weiss]

Originally Posted by N-Y

I love this RS5.... the grill especially, its just so damn sexy and has that monster look... I was looking at one point at A5 or S5 and if i went that route, I would have got the RS5 grill for it

wouldnt mind seeing pics of your car on the side, so i can see your wheels

Thanks!

I'll see if I have any wheel shots.

[jazza]

2015 A5?
Basically the same, no?
And still 2 years!!!






http://news-audi.blogspot.com.es/201...t-details.html

[John Weiss]

Originally Posted by jazza

2015 A5?
Basically the same, no?
And still 2 years!!!






http://news-audi.blogspot.com.es/201...t-details.html

The article you linked to is a Blogging site, that links to a Nov, 2012 Autobild.de article.

http://www.autobild.de/artikel/audi-...u-3723364.html

In your link, it says... quote "The image below, created by the artist, gives an idea of ​​how it could look like the new coupe."

To be honest and frank, it`s an artist`s rendering, not actual spy shots.

To prove the point, if you search for "2015 Audi A5" on google.com, the ONLY site that has an article with NEW RENDERINGS/PICTURES on it is..... autobild.de .

Other sites are just linking to autobild.de.

There are no other original content that shows anymore images/renderings on the 2015 A5.

The actual concept vehicle won't be shown, at least for another year I would think.

Then, the spy shots would come a few months after that at a minimum.

Of course, there are other news sites with information (not images of the new 2015 A5) that gives specs for the new 2015 A5, but no new renderings or pictures (they only show the current face-lifted model images).

[jazza]

You're absolutely right, but this is the only information I have found...

[krisreaz]

Originally Posted by OverDriven

Why do Audis always look like they were designed by Storm Troopers? The A5 coupe is not a bad looking car by any stretch. It's lines are very clean (like most Audis) and I like that, but that same feature makes it a bit boring and lacking in aggression. We need to see better pics, but I'm pretty sure I would take this 4 series over it. I'm absolutely sure I would take an MSport 4 series or M4 over it.

The (pre-facl ift) audi a5 is lacking aggression? This is mine on a quick few pics a friend took. I guess the A5 being rarer then BMW's is definitely a plus, most people don't even know what it looks like