[Cfichman]

Just got my car back from service after they replaced the steering rack and did a balance. The car is perfect now. No vibration at all. Way to go south motors bmw to take care of the issue the very first time. I have the m suspension and 19"s btw.

[willibn]

It's just the blind spot detection silly people. the steering wheel vibrates as a warning if your turn signal is on and the car thinks something is in your blind spot. LOL

[BavarianFanatic]

Originally Posted by willibn

It's just the blind spot detection silly people. the steering wheel vibrates as a warning if your turn signal is on and the car thinks something is in your blind spot. LOL

Wow, I can't believe in the 837 prior posts that no one thought of that. What a bunch of idiots...

[claykin]

Originally Posted by willibn

It's just the blind spot detection silly people. the steering wheel vibrates as a warning if your turn signal is on and the car thinks something is in your blind spot. LOL

I knew BMW was scamming us by asking us to pay for that option then they put it in at no charge anyway. But why did they exclude DHP equipped cars and cars built 11/2012+?

[shivaswrath]

Originally Posted by RPM90

Can't be 'every' 3 series as my 335i does not have any vibration.
It didn't vibrate with the OEM S001's and it's not vibrating now with the
Conti DWS tires either.

It's got to be some tolerance issues so that when the planets are aligned just so, there is a vibration.
This is not good for BMW, not at all.

I do have an odd clunk though in my steering that is felt through the steering wheel.
It's amazing that BMW has now redesigned and/or replaced a LOT of steering related parts.
BMW's engineering and testing has gone awry.
This is a prime example of "if it ain't broke, don't break it".
Yet, BMW has managed to break what used to be the benchmark in steering feel and function in sport sedans.
They had it right for so many years until they decided to water down the driving feel of the 3 series in order to appease the marshmallow driving masses and get a larger market share.
They succeeded in getting market share, and somewhat ruined the excellent steering feel.

After owing my 335i since September, I can now honestly say that this IS a softer 3 series in every aspect from suspension to steering to braking. It's loaded with a gaggle of techno geewhiz, which doesn't impress me, as I value the driving experience more so than the worthless button pushing to set "driver preference". My preference is for BMW to get one setup that works.
Even with the DHP and it's added settings I still can't get the settings I actually want.
So, driver preference is a huge FAIL in my view/experience.

I hope they figure it out before my lease is up as I'll be in the market again. I'm done with making and accepting excuses for what BMW is doing. This is my 3rd BMW and the least fun to drive BMW. Other than the wonderful 3.0 turbo engine and it's power the driving experience is more utilitarian than fun. Honeymoon is over I guess.

My friend, the m performance suspension will change your entire view.

Sucks that we have to pay more $$$ for them to get it right though...

[shivaswrath]

Originally Posted by N-Y

looking to join BMW family... i've noticed this thread... is it a major issue in a lot of 2012 F30?... cause I found one, and I was considering buying it... but this thread got me worried.

I have 2012 and no issue...might be related to having DHP but unsure.

I don't have DHP.

[N-Y]

Originally Posted by shivaswrath

My friend, the m performance suspension will change your entire view.

Sucks that we have to pay more $$$ for them to get it right though...

I'm in canada, and i found a 2012 3 series... i got vin #, and i got entire description from bmw about the car, one of them was 704 M SPORT SUSPENSION .... is that what ur talking about?

[N-Y]

Originally Posted by shivaswrath

I have 2012 and no issue...might be related to having DHP but unsure.

I don't have DHP.

crossing my fingers the test drive goes nicely... its a 4 hour drive to that city.

[N-Y]

so from what i'm reading... if you have this issue, you need to get BMW to replace the front rack?....
also this will be my first BMW, its still under manufacture warranty, but wont be bought from BMW, will be from another dealer... if I have any issue, I should be able to take it to any BMW dealer and be treated the same as the customer who bought a car from that dealer?

car I plan to get has following description

Type code 3A5C
Type 328I (USA)
Dev. series F30 ()
Line 3
Body type LIM
Steering LL
Door count 4
Engine N20
Cubical capacity 2.00
Power 180
Transmision HECK
Gearbox AUT
Colour BLACK SAPPHIRE METALLIC (475)
Upholstery LEDER DAKOTA/KORALLROT/AKZENT SCHWA (LCL5)
Prod. date 2012-03-14

Order options

No. Description

1CA SELECTION COP RELEVANT VEHICLES
2A5 18"LT/ALY WHEELS DOUBLE SPOKE 397
205 AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION
255 SPORTS LEATHER STEERING WHEEL
302 ALARM SYSTEM
322 COMFORT ACCESS SYSTEM
4AD INTERIOR ALUM. LENGTHWISE FINE
4DL HIGH.TRIM FIN. BLACK HIGH-GLOSS
403 GLAS ROOF, ELECTRIC
423 FLOOR MATS, VELOUR
430 INT/EXT RR VW MIRROR W AUT ANTI-DAZZLE
431 INTERIOR RR VW MIRROR W AUT ANTI-D
441 SMOKERS PACKAGE
459 SEAT ADJUSTM., ELECTR. W. MEMORY
465 THROUGH-LOAD SYSTEM
481 SPORT SEATS F DRIVER/FRONT PASSENGER
494 SEAT HEATING F DRIVER/FRONT PASSENGER
507 PARK DISTANCE CONTROL (PDC)
521 RAIN SENSOR
522 XENON LIGHT
534 AUTOMATIC AIR CONDITIONING
548 SPEEDOMETER WITH KILOMETER READING
563 LIGHTS PACKAGE
6AA BMW TELESERVICES
6AB CONTROL TELESERVICES
6NF EXT.CON.OF THE MUSIC PLAY.I.MOBILPH
6NL CONNECT. BLUETOOTH A.USB DEVICES IN
6NR APPS
6VA CIC CONTROL
6WA INSTRUMENT CLUSTER W. EXTENDED CONT
609 NAVIGATION SYSTEM PROFESSIONAL
676 HIFI LOUDSPEAKER SYSTEM
693 SATELLITE TUNER PREPARATION
697 AREA-CODE 1
7AC SPORT LINE
704 M SPORT SUSPENSION
760 INDIVIDUAL HIGH-GLOSS SATIN CHROME
775 INDIVIDUAL ROOF-LINING ANTHRACITE
8KC OELSERVICEINT. 24.000KM/24MONTHS
8SC COUNTRY SPEC. RELEASE OF TELESERVICE
8SM VIN, VISIBLE FROM OUTSIDE
838 CANADIAN VERSION
840 HIGH SPEED SYNCHRONISATION
925 SHIPPING PROTECTION PACKAGE

Series options

No. Description

216 SERVOTRONIC
249 MULTI-FUNCTION FOR STEERING WHEEL
258 RUNFLAT TYRES
4NE BLOW-BY-HEATER
5DS LUGGAGE-COMPARTMENT EMERG. RELEASE
520 FOGLIGHTS
544 CRUISE CONTROL WITH BRAKING FUNCTION
645 RADIO CONTROL US
823 HOT CLIMATE VERSION
845 ACOUSTIC BELT WARNING
853 LANGUAGE VERSION ENGLISH
876 RADIO FREQUENCY 315 MHZ
992 NUMBER PLATE ATTACHEMENT MANAGEMENT
993 MODEL YEAR CODE

[shivaswrath]

Originally Posted by N-Y

I'm in canada, and i found a 2012 3 series... i got vin #, and i got entire description from bmw about the car, one of them was 704 M SPORT SUSPENSION .... is that what ur talking about?

Nope, M Performance Suspension. Go to the suspension thread and see my experience, we had a member from Canada get it done as well..

[N-Y]

im surprised I havent found anybody post any video of the vibration

[Frederik82]

Originally Posted by N-Y

im surprised I haven't found anybody post any video of the vibration

That's because the vibration is most of the time not visible (at least not in my case). The vibration is only noticeable when holding your hands on the steering wheel. I have the impression that the vibration comes from somewhere in the steering rack.

[archer636]

Originally Posted by Frederik82

That's because the vibration is most of the time not visible (at least not in my case). The vibration is only noticeable when holding your hands on the steering wheel. I have the impression that the vibration comes from somewhere in the steering rack.

in my case it's actually quite visible when I take my hands off the steering wheel. I have been thinking about shooting a video (to use as evidence for lemon law)- need to find a way to fix a camera inside the car.

[BavarianFanatic]

Originally Posted by archer636

in my case it's actually quite visible when I take my hands off the steering wheel. I have been thinking about shooting a video (to use as evidence for lemon law)- need to find a way to fix a camera inside the car.

Just hold it in your hands. They don't have anything else in them...

[shivaswrath]

i'm surprised this is still happening, I thought the November updates would rectify everything....

[BavarianFanatic]

Originally Posted by shivaswrath

i'm surprised this is still happening, I thought the November updates would rectify everything....

Who knows when these were built. My 11/12 car has no issues (plain jane M-sport suspension). And it's had 3 different sets of wheels/tires installed.

[dc_bmw]

Originally Posted by N-Y

im surprised I havent found anybody post any video of the vibration

actually somebody did. Check my posts. There is a youtube video showing the vibration. It was fixed for by updating to the new rack, changing one tire, balancing and alignment using very small tolerances. In review, only the alignment with small tolerances helped.

[N-Y]

Originally Posted by dc_bmw

actually somebody did. Check my posts. There is a youtube video showing the vibration. It was fixed for by updating to the new rack, changing one tire, balancing and alignment using very small tolerances. In review, only the alignment with small tolerances helped.

cant locate it...

[TreborDrolet]

try this ensure that rim interiors are sqeaqy clean & see if it helpd

[claykin]

Originally Posted by TreborDrolet

try this ensure that rim interiors are sqeaqy clean & see if it helpd

Is this English?

[claykin]

Originally Posted by N-Y

so from what i'm reading... if you have this issue, you need to get BMW to replace the front rack?....
also this will be my first BMW, its still under manufacture warranty, but wont be bought from BMW, will be from another dealer... if I have any issue, I should be able to take it to any BMW dealer and be treated the same as the customer who bought a car from that dealer?

Steering rack. Yes, front wheels.

Make sure car is clean and accident free. Check VIN with BMW dealer to be sure you have no surprises with warranty.

[DarkTrigger]

Originally Posted by archer636

in my case it's actually quite visible when I take my hands off the steering wheel. I have been thinking about shooting a video (to use as evidence for lemon law)- need to find a way to fix a camera inside the car.

Buy a 200$ gopro and you can mount it anywhere inside the car. It'll move with the car, and hopefully the vibration will be apparent. With the lemon law, all you have to do is get the dealer to confirm it has a problem and can be reproduced and then just bring it back 3 times without them being able to fix it. Save the service records then tell write a letter to BMW.

I can't divulge what happened with me with a previous car and BMW but I made out ok.