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      08-15-2014, 01:28 AM   #155
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Mine is 2013 and it doesn't equip with Launch Control. Just did a research and find out Motortrend tested a 2012 335i with no MPPK 0-60 at 4.7 sec. How the hell that could happen?? Is it matter if I tested it during noon time with 80F degree outside?


http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...5i_first_test/
2013? So you've got first MPPK (with 320hp not 335hp). Yes, you should have to test it with fresher air conditions
Anyway, 4"7 for stock 335i is a joke according to me!
BMW claims (for 0-62) 4"8 for 435i w/MPPK and 5"1 for 435i stock (both with 8AT). Those are the most reliable results.
What I got with mine is very close to the claimed acceleration.
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      08-15-2014, 02:05 AM   #156
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2013? So you've got first MPPK (with 320hp not 335hp). Yes, you should have to test it with fresher air conditions
Anyway, 4"7 for stock 335i is a joke according to me!
BMW claims (for 0-62) 4"8 for 435i w/MPPK and 5"1 for 435i stock (both with 8AT). Those are the most reliable results.
What I got with mine is very close to the claimed acceleration.
Just did a third run tonight at Tesla factory road and got 5.0 sec, outside temperature was 60F degree. I think I should be able to reach 4.8 during the winter time. haha
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2013? So you've got first MPPK (with 320hp not 335hp). Yes, you should have to test it with fresher air conditions
Anyway, 4"7 for stock 335i is a joke according to me!
BMW claims (for 0-62) 4"8 for 435i w/MPPK and 5"1 for 435i stock (both with 8AT). Those are the most reliable results.
What I got with mine is very close to the claimed acceleration.
Just did a third run tonight at Tesla factory road and got 5.0 sec, outside temperature was 60F degree. I think I should be able to reach 4.8 during the winter time. haha
You have all wheel drive...or....just RWD? Also, what size tires? All season or summer performance?
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Good point...tires make a big difference 0 to 60. The small the tire or the lighter the tire will make the difference. The smaller tire has lower rotational diameter thus acceleration will the slightly improved but with lower grip potential...lighter tire has lower rotational mass which also contributes to faster acceleration times. 18 inch rims which are lighter than 20 inch rims will have an edge. Then there is rolling resistance...the type of tire will add more resistance such as a winter tire vs a slick. Winter tires have deeper ridges which add rolling resistance...this extra grip adds resistance... So In a nutshell, a light 18 inch summer tire will have a relative significant advantage over a 20 inch heavier tire with winter or all seasons. Where a smaller tire has a negative affect is in the trap speed. A taller tire benefits the trap speed and generally with strong momentum or velocity (ie HP), the 1/4 mile... Most racers don't care about 0 to 60 thus why the larger tires on race cars.
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2013? So you've got first MPPK (with 320hp not 335hp). Yes, you should have to test it with fresher air conditions
Anyway, 4"7 for stock 335i is a joke according to me!
BMW claims (for 0-62) 4"8 for 435i w/MPPK and 5"1 for 435i stock (both with 8AT). Those are the most reliable results.
What I got with mine is very close to the claimed acceleration.
Just did a third run tonight at Tesla factory road and got 5.0 sec, outside temperature was 60F degree. I think I should be able to reach 4.8 during the winter time. haha
You have all wheel drive...or....just RWD? Also, what size tires? All season or summer performance?
Yes. If you're running all seasons that is probably your problem.
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Eeeeh??? Is there somobody who uses "all season" tyres on his 335i/435i????
Oh my gosh!!!!!!
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MPPK Port Installation Price

I'm trying to get some clarity from those of you who have had the MPPK port installed. Some on this thread have suggested there was no installation cost involved, but not sure what total price you guys have paid. In my dealings with BMW USA, they are saying the price is $1,730.00 to install it at the port on the 2015 435xi which is currently being built. My dealer can do it for less, so wondering if the port install price is variable/negotiable - again this price is coming from BMW NA, not from my dealer (i have been copied in on emails between them).

Doesn't seem logical to pay more to have it port installed unless i am missing something. And i assume those of you who had it port installed, that price included any necessary coding. Thanks for your feedback

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I have no idea on Port / Dealer install costs are, but you can easily install it yourself with E-Sys, and not pay anything.
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Port install usually end up cheaper than getting the parts separately + dealer install. Plus I would trust the port ppl a lot more, they're elite and act as an extension of the factory.
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that's what i would have thought, but the quote i have does not seem to reflect that.....
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I have no idea on Port / Dealer install costs are, but you can easily install it yourself with E-Sys, and not pay anything.
"Easily"???
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Was used Jb stage1 for a mounth and now installed MPPK. Bought it in US and paid just 80$ local dealer for instalation.
I can say that Jb stage1 feel much faster than MPPK.
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"Easily"???
I'd say it is somewhat advanced compared to normal coding, but still easy.

With E-Sys, you just need to add HO-Wort "NPOW" to FA, Import and Activate the 4E FSC Code in DME, and then flash DME Control Unit.
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The parts installation looks easy so i just may end up doing that myself. While i have done coding before, i think for this, there seems to be some likelihood that it may not go perfectly, and for what I am spending on the car and this option, i don't want to hear any nonsense from BMW if something doesn't go right....so i will leave that to the dealer.

...so anyone get this port installed??
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The parts installation looks easy so i just may end up doing that myself. While i have done coding before, i think for this, there seems to be some likelihood that it may not go perfectly, and for what I am spending on the car and this option, i don't want to hear any nonsense from BMW if something doesn't go right....so i will leave that to the dealer.

...so anyone get this port installed??
I had it port installed. Any questions?
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I have the MPPK and exhaust on my car and I do love the sound but I would not say it is significantly faster than before. A 10%hp bump isnt huge, and when you consider that torque is what gives the sensation of speed and the increase there is less than 10%, there is nothing about the MPPK that knocks your socks off. I am still glad I got it though.

They gave me these stickers that come with it and are still in my glove box .. I dont know what to do with them. The dealership almost stuck them on the car! There's a mettalic sticker/badge that also came with it and I put it on the intake (which is the only actual part you get with the MPPK)

I park underground and also drive to my parking space with the window down most days because the exhaust sounds so incredible.

I like the MPPK but the creaks and rattles from the dash and b pillar and the howling HVAC fan are a serious distraction from the enjoyment of the extra power.
Creaks and hvac sound? Please elaborate. Have a 2012 sport line (non m sport) with mpe was considering the mppk don't want to go for a non warranty tune so it's either dinan or mppk. Piggy back was putting me off despite the significant gains for the dinan but these sounds you speak of are a cause for concern don't want it to sound and feel like a tricked out civic
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Port installed the 335hp MPPK. Dealer honored Tischers price & there was no charge for the install. Bought the MPE from Tischers & installed it myself, 20 minute job.
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MPPK makes quite a difference

Just tried it on my brand new winter 18 inches, just painted black. 1 degree C, slightly moist, and very soft feel versus my summers. Time? 5.1. One thing I am sure, the winters are quite slower than the summers, but had not tried it with those for one simple reason: took me a while to figure out the Laptimer App existed!!!

Am sure I can drop below 4.5 with the 20 inches. The Pirelli Sottozeroes are too mushy in winter just above freezing, 5.1 seconds, No Launch Control, TC still on, blows my mind. Below -4 the winters become better.
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2013? So you've got first MPPK (with 320hp not 335hp). Yes, you should have to test it with fresher air conditions
Anyway, 4"7 for stock 335i is a joke according to me!
BMW claims (for 0-62) 4"8 for 435i w/MPPK and 5"1 for 435i stock (both with 8AT). Those are the most reliable results.
What I got with mine is very close to the claimed acceleration.
Yes, mine is the first version of MPPK with 20HP and I think same TQ with the new ones, but 15HP is not a lot of difference for me and add a BMS intake can get me that extra 10HP. My best 0-60 time so far is 5.0 second flat. I have tried few times after the MPE install, but no signs of difference. I probably just go for the Dinantronics to boost extra 40+ hp and 70+ TQ.
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Just tried it on my brand new winter 18 inches, just painted black. 1 degree C, slightly moist, and very soft feel versus my summers. Time? 5.1. One thing I am sure, the winters are quite slower than the summers, but had not tried it with those for one simple reason: took me a while to figure out the Laptimer App existed!!!

Am sure I can drip below 4.5 with the 20 inches. The Pirelli Sottozeroes are too mushy in winter just above freezing (so still a bit too warm for the winters, and they feel 'soft'), 5.1 seconds blows my mind. Had it been -7 or lower, then the winters become better.
Which Sottozeros did you get? Im about to buy a set and can't decide between the 3's and the run flats.
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