[badders74]

Your right nick the greek, i do find it quick for the all round vehicle i want. It isnt the quickest or the most economical but its very good as a complete package.

[FSE23]

I really don't care what the engine size is. I got 335i for 7 years enjoying it to the very last day. Now I enjoy my 335d slightly in a different way. I wouldn't mind driving 320d if I didn't hear the noise which was so irritating to me that this would have taken all the pleasure off. Life is for living and enjoying. why should I struggle in my own car? If 320d was quiet like 520d I would have gone for it. I don't need 5 series anyway. Like I enjoy my hifi and quality of nice sound rather than computer speakers buzzing on my desk. I just want to make my life more pleasant. That's what I think. even if it costs some money....

[F30AM]

Originally Posted by piono

I really don't care what the engine size is. I got 335i for 7 years enjoying it to the very last day. Now I enjoy my 335d slightly in a different way. I wouldn't mind driving 320d if I didn't hear the noise which was so irritating to me that this would have taken all the pleasure off. Life is for living and enjoying. why should I struggle in my own car? If 320d was quiet like 520d I would have gone for it. I don't need 5 series anyway. Like I enjoy my hifi and quality of nice sound rather than computer speakers buzzing on my desk. I just want to make my life more pleasant. That's what I think. even if it costs some money....

Exactly. With you all the way. The nice thing about my 330d is that when idling it sounds so un-Diesel-like. If it rattled like a London Taxi, I would be investing in some brown paper bags or better still maybe in a gun to shoot myself with.

[Tengocity]

This is all bollocks. The 335d is a fast car. Faster than 95% of cars on the road. To say it's not is like saying a that some 6ft 5inch guy is not tall because there is another guy who is 7ft 5! Clearly they are both tall but ones a freak! Yes a GT-R is very very fast, but it's a freak. And as for motorbikes, well they're just like giraffes in this analogy!

[Torquein]

Originally Posted by Tengocity

This is all bollocks. The 335d is a fast car. Faster than 95% of cars on the road. To say it's not is like saying a that some 6ft 5inch guy is not tall because there is another guy who is 7ft 5! Clearly they are both tall but ones a freak! Yes a GT-R is very very fast, but it's a freak. And as for motorbikes, well they're just like giraffes in this analogy!

Well said

[Tengocity]

When folk are using the phrase reps do they really mean a sales rep, or are just meaning fleet cars and folk who wear suits to work?

I know a few reps and they drive boggo golfs, and various types of 2 litre diesels from BMW and Audi. Almost so 'rep' drives big engines cars! Plenty of folk with suits have to use the roads too... We're not all reps!

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Originally Posted by F30AM

Exactly. With you all the way. The nice thing about my 330d is that when idling it sounds so un-Diesel-like. If it rattled like a London Taxi, I would be investing in some brown paper bags or better still maybe in a gun to shoot myself with.

Sorry can't find any paper bags....

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Originally Posted by Tengocity

When folk are using the phrase reps do they really mean a sales rep, or are just meaning fleet cars and folk who wear suits to work?

I know a few reps and they drive boggo golfs, and various types of 2 litre diesels from BMW and Audi. Almost so 'rep' drives big engines cars! Plenty of folk with suits have to use the roads too... We're not all reps!

I think it is a catch all term for anyone on the road not in a baseball cap, dressed smartly casual etc and driving a newish car on own lol.

It only really applies to saloon drivers though

[Torquein]

Originally Posted by Brigand

I think it is a catch all term for anyone on the road not in a baseball cap, dressed smartly casual etc and driving a newish car on own lol.

It only really applies to saloon drivers though

And undertakers.....

[Tengocity]

Originally Posted by Brigand

I think it is a catch all term for anyone on the road not in a baseball cap, dressed smartly casual etc and driving a newish car on own lol.

It only really applies to saloon drivers though

So this is not engine snobbery it's white collar snobbery!

[badders74]

I wear casual clothing to work as im not customer facing so i must be the 1%er!

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Originally Posted by badders74

I wear casual clothing to work as im not customer facing so i must be the 1%er!

Sorry do you mean casual as in cords or casual as in chav ?

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Originally Posted by Tengocity

So this is not engine snobbery it's white collar snobbery!

Well, yeah you have to keep the peasants in their place.

[Tengocity]

Originally Posted by badders74

I wear casual clothing to work as im not customer facing so i must be the 1%er!

Same here, unless I'm out with one of the reps seeing customers, which thankfully I do try to avoid... I am in marketing after all!

[badders74]

Originally Posted by Tengocity

Same here, unless I'm out with one of the reps seeing customers, which thankfully I do try to avoid... I am in marketing after all!

My wife is in marketing so i know what a joy it is to work in marketing! Taken out by agencies for events and meals etc!

[dazzapb]

Originally Posted by Tengocity

This is all bollocks. The 335d is a fast car. Faster than 95% of cars on the road. To say it's not is like saying a that some 6ft 5inch guy is not tall because there is another guy who is 7ft 5! Clearly they are both tall but ones a freak! Yes a GT-R is very very fast, but it's a freak. And as for motorbikes, well they're just like giraffes in this analogy!

Very good points well made, but I think you'll find the ratio 98%

As for others comments re: the 3 series being reps cars - well perhaps but its can't bother me too much (spending 40k+ on a 3er) as its the same for its rivals a4 and c-class so its a moot point. I've also never heard of a 300 bhp 4x4 being referred to as such either. Same for M3 which ok has a much more aggressive and racing setup - but its still a 3.

People also refer to the fact that the 3 series outsells the Mondeo, but it doesn't appear in the top 20 - prob due to its size (fiesta and focus are 1st and 2nd) and depreciation (I've had a few and ouch) people want premium and with leasing and pcp they can get it easier than ever.

[Tengocity]

Originally Posted by badders74

My wife is in marketing so i know what a joy it is to work in marketing! Taken out by agencies for events and meals etc!

It's not like it used to be for me. i'm in Pharma and so the whole corporate shmoozing thing is a no no these days, even between us and our agencies, and of course our interactions with doctors is always majorly under the spotlight!

[badders74]

Fair enough! :-)

[Pablo68]

Handy check sheet to see where your car fits...

Rep Car:
- Bottom of the range model of saloon
- Lowest BiK engine/drive train combo (usually small diesel)
- Cheapest paint job (White)
- No Options

White Collar Fleet Car:
- Probably mid-range model saloon
- Cheap to run/insure with good resale so probably mid range diesel
- Cheap paint job with good resale (White/Black/Silver)
- Minimal options (maybe lowest sat nav)

Personal car used by person who wears a suit:
- Top end model of Saloon/Estate/Coupe
- Top engine (Diesel for high milers, petrol otherwise)
- Maybe a solid colour but unlikely to be white
- Maxed out options.

Happy motoring all

[dopper99]

Originally Posted by Nick the Greek

My post above dopper99. I already have a bike.

Yes I realise that. My point was, because you own a fast bike, anything slower than the performance of your bike seems slow to you. Its what you are used to.
But that does not mean to say cars that do 0-100 in 10 or 11 secs are slow. How many that you see every day can do that? And what kind of money do you need to spend out on a car to achieve faster than 0-100 in 10 secs? A LOT of cash needed.

[Torquein]

Originally Posted by Pablo68

Handy check sheet to see where your car

White Collar Fleet Car:
- Probably mid-range model saloon
- Cheap to run/insure with good resale so probably mid range diesel
- Cheap paint job with good resale (White/Black/Silver)
- Minimal options (maybe lowest sat

:

- went msport but not ms+ so check
- 330d check
- no I went msport ebii, was going to go sapphire black so check
- check

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Originally Posted by Pablo68

Handy check sheet to see where your car fits...

Rep Car:
- Bottom of the range model of saloon
- Lowest BiK engine/drive train combo (usually small diesel)
- Cheapest paint job (White)
- No Options

White Collar Fleet Car:
- Probably mid-range model saloon
- Cheap to run/insure with good resale so probably mid range diesel
- Cheap paint job with good resale (White/Black/Silver)
- Minimal options (maybe lowest sat nav)

Personal car used by person who wears a suit:
- Top end model of Saloon/Estate/Coupe
- Top engine (Diesel for high milers, petrol otherwise)
- Maybe a solid colour but unlikely to be white
- Maxed out options.

Happy motoring all

Lol quite a good one.

So F31 330d xdrive
EBII
msport +
Pro Media
Etc.

Admittedly I am new to this company / personal car thing
Luckily I don't do the rep thing as not used to being nice to people.