[Falafel Combo]

Originally Posted by 435iaffair

Not my cup of tea, but I think it'll be a looker

So you realize that you drive literally the same car with 2 doors instead of this 4 door?

[///Madness]

I just don't understand BMWs direction lately. How is this different to the 3 series? I don't get it.

[Professor///M]

Looks like a 3 series... just $6K more!

[OmidHariri]

4 series gran coupe? Oh you mean the 3 series?

[Germancarnut]

Originally Posted by xG35c

Yes it will have the 3GT's extended wheelbase.

Do you have a source? Thanks.

No it will not have a hatch like the 5GT.

I agree that the pictures suggest it doesn't or do you know for sure?

Now if I can just get past spending $52k+ and still not getting the 35i motor...

The N55 will suit the 4GC well. Anything less ... not really IMO.

[slcmjames]

The owner of autohome in china ( where these pictures are coming from ) said after seeing the 4gc and a few others not publicized models, this 4 gc is the most beautiful car amoung all cars BMW is selling now. he even said you will feel shame if yourself dont look good enough when sitting in there. this car is much lower, and wider than a regular 3 series so it sounds like a more sporty one. i may want to get one if it is that good or otherwise just a regular 435. Chinese may not be able to have too many cars at the same time, hence one sporty yet practical car could be best next to a SUV for a family. guess it also applicable to other regions...

[woltersjason]

This car seems pointless to me

[ORIGIN M.]

Good Lord look at that fat pig go around the track.

It is all over the place.

[JJS]

BMW already has a 5-door 3-series. It's the F31. Other than to compete with the Audi A5, the 4GC is pointless, in my opinion. An RS4 Avant beating M3 Touring makes much more sense.

[teaston]

Originally Posted by fijigabe0

BMW
Mini
Rolls Royce

What about BMW Motorrad, that makes 4?

[Falafel Combo]

Originally Posted by red-sauerkraut

Good Lord look at that fat pig go around the track.

It is all over the place.

Must be kidding. It actually looks pretty good for a series model. Not an M car, but seriously?

[wakedaze]

What a waste of resources. BMW, sadly, has lost its way.

[hwelvaar]

Originally Posted by teaston

Exactly!!

A 4 door version of the 2 door version of the 4 door model! WTF!

Hehe LOL. But not entirely correct.
It's a 4-door version of a coupe model, which now will be available in both 2-door and 4-door versions.

The 4-series is not a 2-door version of the 3 series. The 4 series are coupe models, the 3 series are sedan models.

[Falafel Combo]

Originally Posted by ///Madness

I just don't understand BMWs direction lately. How is this different to the 3 series? I don't get it.

I think the question you should be asking is why is BMW making this car at all. For the same reasons they make both a 5 series sedan and a 6 series Gran Coupe. Do you view those 2 cars to be similar?


I am sure it will be stunning on the road. In my mind, the 4GC will be competing with the 6GC for the best design award in the F car lineup.


While I like the f30 design (a lot), I believe the 4GC will have many advantages over the f30. In return for giving up a 5th passenger and some headroom in the rear seats, you get:


-Extended wheelbase
-Sporty and sleek coupe exterior design lines
-4 seater (rear bench will likely look like the 6 GC)
-Lower roof line (coupe exterior design)
-Wider wheelbase
-Overall, lower than the f30 = lower center of gravity = improved handling and not as much body roll, as evidenced in the above nurburgring videos
-Hatch back opening for improved versatility and cargo transport
-Exclusivity


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[Falafel Combo]

I am a typical 4/6GC target customer.


Prefer coupe design, hate long coupe doors - OK, we made the doors shorter
Prefer coupe design, hate the seatbelt butler - Fired him just for you, sir
Prefer coupe design, hate difficult accessibility to rear seats and lack of usability - OK, we added two doors for easier ingress/egress
Prefer the coupe design with a lower sloping roof line, lower stance and wider wheel base - You got it
Prefer the handling and driving dynamics of a coupe, but need 4 doors for the family - Done!
Prefer the larger trunk space in the sedan - Ok, we'll give you that too. In fact, here is a bigass hatch opening

[Falafel Combo]

f30 = f10 5 series sedan
f36 = f13 6 series gran coupe


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[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by Germancarnut

The N55 will suit the 4GC well. Anything less ... not really IMO.

This car may still usher in the B58 to replace the N55. Hopefully that will mean a power increase as well. Although it might mean a 500 RPM drop in redline too.

[reprod]

The 4GC with M-Sport and 19's should be a serious looker. I can see this car as a stepping stone for those exiting the 3 series brand but not fully into the land yacht appeal of the 5-series. It will be more practical than a 4-coupe but still have the sexy appeal of the coupe. The perfect melting pot of practicality and style.

[reprod]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

This car may still usher in the B58 to replace the N55. Hopefully that will mean a power increase as well. Although it might mean a 500 RPM drop in redline too.

What is this mysterious B58?.. Any details?.. My 435i is sitting at a port in Bremerhaven... I may be a little pissed if the new engine comes in and wipes the floor with the N55.

[Falafel Combo]

Originally Posted by reprod

What is this mysterious B58?.. Any details?.. My 435i is sitting at a port in Bremerhaven... I may be a little pissed if the new engine comes in and wipes the floor with the N55.

Honestly, I would prefer the n55 without even knowing what the b58 even looks like. The n55 is perfect. I fear the unknown, and all the potential failures it may bring. BMW has not been the most reliable when it comes to developing, integrating and assimilating new products into it's lines. I'm already a bit leery buying a first year model f36 or f80. The new powertrains will be a concern for sure.

[reprod]

Originally Posted by ///M235i

Honestly, I would prefer the n55 without even knowing what the b58 even looks like. The n55 is perfect. I fear the unknown, and all the potential failures it may bring. BMW has not been the most reliable when it comes to developing, integrating and assimilating new products into it's lines. I'm already a bit leery buying a first year model f36 or f80. The new powertrains will be a concern for sure.

Very good points. I jumped into the N54 in 2008 and that engine put smiles on my face when I wanted to play but when I just wanted to get through a heavy storm is stuttered and began to make me feel concerned about just getting my girlfriend (now wife) home.

The N55 has been 100% reliable to me. While it doesnt raise my heart-rate like the N54, I enjoy every minute I get to open it up a bit.

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by ///M235i

Must be kidding. It actually looks pretty good for a series model. Not an M car, but seriously?

Yes seriously, go watch the video it's all over the place.

Clearly these boat sized series cars need a bloody LSD big time.