[pokerface]

Oh I think I can see this replacing one of our DDs down the line.

[Orange fever]

i4 next on the list....
And if they make a smaller version of the m8 that will be next tooOooo...

[goj]

Originally Posted by ORIGIN M.

No you should not.

But it's so ugly..

[ron_jeremy]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

The BMW i4 if you will is the EV of the 4er Gran Coupe (G26) This Vision Concept contains a mix of features although conceptualised here that will be interpreted on both vehicles.

The BMWi4 receiving a more technical look compared to a more organic look on the 4er.
As an example: the twin kidney grille will be more angular on the i4, its look allows radar sensors to be completely hidden from view allowing a very clean minimalistic appearance.

With the kidney grille on the G26 appearing more organic and traditional classic BMW.
Coupe available too. As well as the i4 derived from the Vision Concept Car.
It will prompt debate. And some may think it is too controversial. Finally a modern BMW today to provoke controversy.

It's a unique way of separating each model via brand and design identity.
Our first impression of this parallel strategy will be the unveiling of the Concept iX3 in Beijing next month.

I though the Electric X3 was looking close to the ICE X3?
Hopefully not, finally we can soon put to rest thost Jag and Audi shouting of a E SUV, they are selling like hot cakes in norway.

Tesla had the chance with series 3, but didn't met demand, and cound not make the production needed, they are going down fast within the next 2-3 years.

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by Brake_Late

Like toast w butter

Absolutely

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by goj

But it's so ugly..

It's not ugly when you see it in person.

Needs the larger wheels with the aero covers removed.

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by ron_jeremy

I though the Electric X3 was looking close to the ICE X3?
Hopefully not, finally we can soon put to rest thost Jag and Audi shouting of a E SUV, they are selling like hot cakes in norway.

Tesla had the chance with series 3, but didn't met demand, and cound not make the production needed, they are going down fast within the next 2-3 years.

The iX3 will be just like the new X3 with different aero and obviously no exhaust.

Tesla is going anywhere, don't be silly.

[M3_WC]

Originally Posted by ORIGIN M.

It's not going kill Tesla.

Tesla has a charger network Worldwide and owns their own battery factory.

BMW has major catching up to do, and is currently way behind in the BEV game

I definitely see the brands ganging up on Telsa soon in the US, like they announced late last year for Europe. Ford, BMW, Daimler, Volkswagen, Audi, and Porsche launched a joint venture to build 400 supercharging stations across Europe by 2020. Along with Porsche putting supercharging stations at everyone of their dealerships, for the Mission E launch. Honestly when the big brands pool their resources and get fully rolling on electric, Telsa is going to be in trouble. One thing is for sure, the big brand dealer network and service centers is far greater than Telsa. The build quality and fit/finish will far exceed them as well.

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by M3_WC

I definitely see the brands ganging up on Telsa soon in the US, like they announced late last year for Europe. Ford, BMW, Daimler, Volkswagen, Audi, and Porsche launched a joint venture to build 400 supercharging stations across Europe by 2020. Along with Porsche putting supercharging stations at everyone of their dealerships, for the Mission E launch. Honestly when the big brands pool their resources and get fully rolling on electric, Telsa is going to be in trouble. One thing is for sure, the big brand dealer network and service centers is far greater than Telsa. The build quality and fit/finish will far exceed them as well.

They might be buying batteries from Tesla as well so either way Elon is still ahead of the game and his charge network is lightyears ahead of anything else on the market.

They all have announcements to make but no cars to bring for 2 more years.

[clubsport]

Originally Posted by SDPLV

So...should I cancel my Model 3 reservation?

Yes
The panel fit is horrendous. The attach point fittings of the panels break off. If you were to drive it at freeway speeds half the panels might fly off. By the time they get it all figured out, better cars will be on the road.

[clubsport]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

The BMW i4 if you will is the EV of the 4er Gran Coupe (G26) This Vision Concept contains a mix of features although conceptualised here that will be interpreted on both vehicles.

The BMWi4 receiving a more technical look compared to a more organic look on the 4er.
As an example: the twin kidney grille will be more angular on the i4, its look allows radar sensors to be completely hidden from view allowing a very clean minimalistic appearance.

With the kidney grille on the G26 appearing more organic and traditional classic BMW.
Coupe available too. As well as the i4 derived from the Vision Concept Car.
It will prompt debate. And some may think it is too controversial. Finally a modern BMW today to provoke controversy.

It's a unique way of separating each model via brand and design identity.
Our first impression of this parallel strategy will be the unveiling of the Concept iX3 in Beijing next month.

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I think the 4er GC is the perfect car for anti SUV/SAV people. (like me) But I need more headroom/lower NON Powered seats/ a Gurney Bubble...Something. An EV version would check all of the boxes. But the iX3 will probably have to do since sleek design and headroom rarely mix.

[Tallest]

Originally Posted by SDPLV

So...should I cancel my Model 3 reservation?

no, sell it so someone instead.

[Bt12]

All EV offerings in 2020 time frame is 500km. That’s what all the auto co’s Are targeting to get past range anxiety. 70-90kWh batteries

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by clubsport

Yes
The panel fit is horrendous. The attach point fittings of the panels break off. If you were to drive it at freeway speeds half the panels might fly off. By the time they get it all figured out, better cars will be on the road.

FUDster...Tesla shorter are you ?

Tesla isn't perfect, but neither are you.

If it wasn't for Tesla, Nissan, & GM the segment would not even exist.

[MilehighM3]

Originally Posted by SDPLV

So...should I cancel my Model 3 reservation?

Keep it and lease an i4 when they come out. Then when your lease is up, your model 3 May go into production.

[MilehighM3]

Originally Posted by ORIGIN M.

FUDster...Tesla shorter are you ?

Tesla isn't perfect, but neither are you.

If it wasn't for Tesla, Nissan, & GM the segment would not even exist.

Electric vehicles have been on the road nearly a century. Almost all of the manufacturers have developed electric cars in the past. Here's some history as it relates to this forum.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.bus...ic-cars-2016-5

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by MilehighM3

Electric vehicles have been on the road nearly a century. Almost all of the manufacturers have developed electric cars in the past. Here's some history as it relates to this forum.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.bus...ic-cars-2016-5

You are missing it...

Maybe go watch... The revenge of the electric car.


BMW would not be building any production electric cars if it wasn't for Tesla & Nissan creating a disruption in the automobile industry.

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by MilehighM3

Keep it and lease an i4 when they come out. Then when your lease is up, your model 3 May go into production.

Are you a Tesla Stock Shorter?

Spreading your FUD?

[MightyMouseTech]

God, why does it have to be so UGLY? Why can't they just make an electric car that looks like a nice car? That is one of the big reasons I like Tesla.

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by MightyMouseTech

God, why does it have to be so UGLY? Why can't they just make an electric car that looks like a nice car? That is one of the big reasons I like Tesla.

Let's hope they water it down like they do to all their concert cars.

But I get your point loud and clear.

[goj]

Originally Posted by ORIGIN M.

It's not ugly when you see it in person.

Needs the larger wheels with the aero covers removed.

I see them everyday on my commute. I didn't think it was ugly until I did see it in person.

[Bavariane31]

Despite what you think of Tesla, it's pretty amazing that such a young auto company managed to manipulate the car industry into developing EVs (this has always been their primary goal; to show that EVs are a viable and sell-able option). No other automaker despite have years of experience and more resources thought seriously about it. Got to give them credit for American innovation.

EVs are the future and if anyone is doubting that, they don't understand technology. Unless we discover/manufacture a liquid that's cheap as gas (which is still expensive compared to electricity) but delivers more power, then maybe ICE may live on for a while longer... How plausible is that? Remote to say the least. The point is that ICE have pretty much peaked in terms of technology whereas battery tech still has a LONG way to go. People complain that they'll never purchase EV's because they don't have the range or take so long to charge... Of course they do, since we are only at the beginning of battery technology investment and EV manufacturing. That's how tech works. First products are going to take time to iron everything out. That's like complaining that the first ICE car was slower than a horse and has to take gas which isn't available everywhere, unlike grass so you'll never consider one ever and go on to criticize companies that continue to develop the tech... Don't worry, we'll know that you'll change you mind when the tech develops! Legitimate concerns, but EVs have improved so much during that last few years just with Tesla at the helm. Now that everyone is jumping on board, the improvements will just get faster and will overtake ICE in every department in the next few decades for sure.