[///M Power]

Is an aftermarket chargepipe if in just running stage 1 & intake?

[malrayes]

Originally Posted by ///M Power

Is an aftermarket chargepipe if in just running stage 1 & intake?

a charge pipe is important because the oem one wont handle the extra boost and might break in few weeks, get ER charge pipe. it wont give you any extra power its just better throttle response and replacing the cheap plastic oem charge pipe

[CJ2]

I've run my 2012 F30 335i on map 7 @ 18.5psi boost for a few months now with no issues using my stock charge pipe, but I did indeed just purchase the ER charge pipe due to the fact that the stock CP's do sometimes crack or break as malrayes mentions above. It is not all that common according to my tuner, but why take the risk? Plus it comes with 2 meth bungs, you get better throttle response and less turbo lag.

[Mike@N54Tuning.com]

Originally Posted by CJ2

I've run my 2012 F30 335i on map 7 @ 18.5psi boost for a few months now with no issues using my stock charge pipe, but I did indeed just purchase the ER charge pipe due to the fact that the stock CP's do sometimes crack or break as malrayes mentions above. It is not all that common according to my tuner, but why take the risk? Plus it comes with 2 meth bungs, you get better throttle response and less turbo lag.

You would be surprised how common charge pipe failure is. I don't have enough data on the F30, but on the E9X N55 its a complete disaster. The major problem is that a lot of times its a catastrophic failure to the point the car is not drivable, so when tuning its a good upgrade to have. I would even say on a stock car its a good upgrade as we've seen plenty of charge pipe failures even under stock boost.

A few weeks ago we had a customer pipe blow up to the point they lost their MAP sensor and had to buy a new one from BMW ($$).

Mike

[M-terkait]

How can a the ER chargepipe gets you better response and reduce turbo lag ?

[2blu]

Originally Posted by M-terkait

How can a the ER chargepipe gets you better response and reduce turbo lag ?

The OEM charge pipe is made of plastic and has a certain amount of flex which can be a little more restrictive IMO. The ER CP is made of metal, thus allowing no flex which should improve response and reduce lag.

I don't have a CP on my car so I can't confirm this, but it's basically my understanding. Imagine drinking a milkshake with a thin, flimsy straw vs drinking with a straw made of aluminum. The sturdier straw will allow better flow and no "lag" associated with flex.

[tdizzle]

I wouldn't think there would be any performance benefits, but more 'this wont blow off under high boost like the plastic OEM one'.

But I have no idea honestly.

[M-terkait]

i just received mine yesterday and looked for some local shops around and found one quoted me around 150$ for installation of ER cp

main reason to buy was the bad material of the OEM cp , i wasn't looking for the less lag.

[tdizzle]

Originally Posted by M-terkait

i just received mine yesterday and looked for some local shops around and found one quoted me around 150$ for installation of ER cp

main reason to buy was the bad material of the OEM cp , i wasn't looking for the less lag.

Seems a bit steep considering the installation difficulty is rated by ER as a 2 on a 1-5 scale, but I guess shops have a base feel they'll charge just to look at your car.

How much did you get the DP installed for as a reference?

[M-terkait]

100$ but at another shop which was really good at modifying exhausts.
and its rated 3 on the installation guide. 2 on the website :|

[tdizzle]

Originally Posted by M-terkait

100$ but at another shop which was really good at modifying exhausts.
and its rated 3 on the installation guide. 2 on the website :|

I think someone said they estimated it took about 2hours to install the chargepipe themselves, but they're probably more comfortable with working on their BMW that I would be. Doesn't sound like it's a simple job regardless unless you own shop tools.

[mikew2069]

Originally Posted by M-terkait

100$ but at another shop which was really good at modifying exhausts.
and its rated 3 on the installation guide. 2 on the website :|

Does it come with instructions? I haven't opened my box yet - I'm waiting until I get an IC to do everything at the same time. Curious if you have to take off the bumper...

[malrayes]

Originally Posted by mikew2069

Does it come with instructions? I haven't opened my box yet - I'm waiting until I get an IC to do everything at the same time. Curious if you have to take off the bumper...

no you dont have to take the bumper off, its a pretty easy job but in a tight space

[M-terkait]

yeah it has like 4 pages of instructions , i have read them and they are very detailed
as i have read they didn't mention any removal of the bumper.

am thinking of Wagner Tuning IC they are for 699$

http://www.wagner-tuning.com/BMW-Upg...VO1-_p_82.html

[malrayes]

Originally Posted by M-terkait

yeah it has like 4 pages of instructions , i have read them and they are very detailed
as i have read they didn't mention any removal of the bumper.

am thinking of Wagner Tuning IC they are for 699$

http://www.wagner-tuning.com/BMW-Upg...VO1-_p_82.html

ER will roll out intercoolers for the f10 and f13 and maybe the f30 very soon

[mikew2069]

Originally Posted by malrayes

no you dont have to take the bumper off, its a pretty easy job but in a tight space

I should probably open my box and just look but I'm lazy - so does it install from underneath without removing the bumper? I'm curious if I'll be able to do this and the IC without removing the bumper?

[malrayes]

youll install from the top of the engine_ somewhere under the intake shaft.

[M-terkait]

In the instructions it says to lift the car and remove the guard underneath then start removing some stuff didn't go very detailed.

[Mike@N54Tuning.com]

Originally Posted by malrayes

ER will roll out intercoolers for the f10 and f13 and maybe the f30 very soon

Should be out February!

Mike

[Cateye]

Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

Should be out February!

Mike

Hi Mike,
I have ordered a charge pipe since 13dec. Thereafter I sent another Email for update but did not rec any notice. May I know when will this be sent?

Miguel

[becker800]

Any issues with leaving the chargepipe on when taking it to the dealer for routine maintenance?

My JB4 is arriving today and I'm debating about getting the chargepipe.
I wont be going higher the stage 2 likely and only stage 2 once the electronic solenoid issue is fixed as I have the new one in the 435i.

[auf Deutsch]

Originally Posted by becker800

Any issues with leaving the chargepipe on when taking it to the dealer for routine maintenance?

My JB4 is arriving today and I'm debating about getting the chargepipe.
I wont be going higher the stage 2 likely and only stage 2 once the electronic solenoid issue is fixed as I have the new one in the 435i.

Eagerly awaiting review after your jb4 instal. What map will you be running?

Leaving the cp on should be a non-issue. If they ask, just tell them the POS oem plastic pipe cracked and you wanted a far more durable piece. It's the tune and dp that need to be removed prior to service.