[Damon44]

Originally Posted by crvgt

The parts installation looks easy so i just may end up doing that myself. While i have done coding before, i think for this, there seems to be some likelihood that it may not go perfectly, and for what I am spending on the car and this option, i don't want to hear any nonsense from BMW if something doesn't go right....so i will leave that to the dealer.

...so anyone get this port installed??

Fwiw my wife just got her 2015 335i a month ago with dealer installed MPPk. Perfectly done and smooth as butter. Sounds great and she loves the speed. No issues shifts and gas mileage better than ever.
I took possession of my 435i with port installed MPPk and following week added Dinan piggyback tune to give about 365 horses and peak torque 430.
Seems to reflect on sport display and acceleration on highway from 50 to 100mph blows me away.
Perfectly smooth shifts after one week breaking of Dinan tune.
Initially a bit jumpy and sputtered at slow speeds.
Behaves like a refined racer.
Definitely no issues adding Dinan to MPPk with warranty on both.
No noises or rattles.
Both were priced at $1500 dealer or port MPPk!

[Sharp_Cai]

Originally Posted by Mattshokri3

what app is that?

M lap timer

[Sharp_Cai]

Originally Posted by Damon44

Fwiw my wife just got her 2015 335i a month ago with dealer installed MPPk. Perfectly done and smooth as butter. Sounds great and she loves the speed. No issues shifts and gas mileage better than ever.
I took possession of my 435i with port installed MPPk and following week added Dinan piggyback tune to give about 365 horses and peak torque 430.
Seems to reflect on sport display and acceleration on highway from 50 to 100mph blows me away.
Perfectly smooth shifts after one week breaking of Dinan tune.
Initially a bit jumpy and sputtered at slow speeds.
Behaves like a refined racer.
Definitely no issues adding Dinan to MPPk with warranty on both.
No noises or rattles.
Both were priced at $1500 dealer or port MPPk!

How much they charge you for the Dinantronics installed?

[Musashi]

Originally Posted by jtuds

I like the MPPK but the creaks and rattles from the dash and b pillar and the howling HVAC fan are a serious distraction from the enjoyment of the extra power.

HVAC- do you have the HVAC rattling issue? I had it and found the code on a forum, they fixed it. The HVac hose loosens somewhere inside and bangs against the engine. The rattle would occur on acceleration only, below 80 km/hr.

[Musashi]

Originally Posted by Blubaron79

Which Sottozeros did you get? Im about to buy a set and can't decide between the 3's and the run flats.

I totally missed your question, was not notified. Got the Sottozeroes Serie 2. Reason was that, with the new whheelset, the cost was $900 minus $70 Pirelli rebate + tax. Had I tried to remove them and purchase separately Michelins, Blizzaks etc were 1200 or more. But HAD to try the Pirellis, they are darn impressive!!!

Saved my bum last month during a moist evening turned out black ice; had driven late evening Montreal-Ottawa, 40 kms at 110km/hr until I wondered about the minor oscillations,pulled aside, on the highway, got out to check (only way really), was all black ice. Dropped at 60 km/hr. Next 2 kms saw 4 cars in a ditch. half an hour later had to dance around a deer that popped in a curb, was doing about 80kms (had just about left the black ice zone so road was mainly icy wet), left, right, went around the deer, full control.

[1FRESHF32]

Did Chris heck include the m performance chrome tips ?

[Damon44]

Originally Posted by amoeba

MPE doesn't add any, MPPK adds 30.

You want more? Change the downpipe. Or remove MPPK and put JB4.

a free flowing exhaust should be able to add power as well as noise.
I don't want a lot of noise but like you all just a little bit more accent.
After research my foreign car dealer showed me how the Dinan exhaust will add about 5 hp more and an equal amount of torque. Not supposed to have any drone.
Thought about MPE but it seemed to only do half the job for the money.
Already have MPPK but power depends on where I am on the torque curve and how many rpms the engine is revving.
When going 50 mph it knocks me back but at standstill the pull is not so great. Passing is phenomenal but takeoff seems slower.

[Damon44]

Originally Posted by Sharp_Cai

How much they charge you for the Dinantronics installed?

sorry almost didn't see this.
It was a shame I had the port installed to begin with . I was at 330 horses or so. The Dinantronics came to $2300 with tax and labor. About 1 1/2 hours with harness and software. Supposed to be 364 horses and 400 something torque.
They have a stage 2 coming out soon with about 20 more horses and goes right through current harness so only needs labor and software according to Dinan rep.
That will bring N55 to 385 hp and lord knows how much torque!

[Vegetable]

Originally Posted by Damon44

When going 50 mph it knocks me back but at standstill the pull is not so great. Passing is phenomenal but takeoff seems slower.

Are you speaking of MPPK or MPPK + Dinan?

[Damon44]

Originally Posted by Vegetable

Are you speaking of MPPK or MPPK + Dinan?

I can tell quite a difference between my wife's 335 with MPPK and my 435 MPPK plus Dinan. Maybe the gearing and throttle mapping curve are changed as well but the extra torque is noticeable.
I still think the N55 is not as great as some other engines at lower RPMs
Feels like it has to be moving and revving 2700-3500 rpm for max pull.
I have been driving with sport display on the console to follow output.

The 435 is a big coupe not like the 235 and clearly takes more horses to get going from a standstill even with extra power. I love the 6 series but by that size I'll bet it really takes a kick in the butt to moooooove.

[The Nerd]

Originally Posted by Damon44

a free flowing exhaust should be able to add power as well as noise.
I don't want a lot of noise but like you all just a little bit more accent.
After research my foreign car dealer showed me how the Dinan exhaust will add about 5 hp more and an equal amount of torque. Not supposed to have any drone.
Thought about MPE but it seemed to only do half the job for the money.
Already have MPPK but power depends on where I am on the torque curve and how many rpms the engine is revving.
When going 50 mph it knocks me back but at standstill the pull is not so great. Passing is phenomenal but takeoff seems slower.

So, you can feel the extra power of the Dinantronics above 50 mph....but as you said, the pull at standstill is not so great. Are you implying that the Dinantronics actually hurt the low end pull?? In other words....compared to your wife's "regular MPPK" N55, does your low end pull feel less torquey than hers after the D-Tronics install?

[Damon44]

Originally Posted by The Nerd

So, you can feel the extra power of the Dinantronics above 50 mph....but as you said, the pull at standstill is not so great. Are you implying that the Dinantronics actually hurt the low end pull?? In other words....compared to your wife's "regular MPPK" N55, does your low end pull feel less torquey than hers after the D-Tronics install?

Very good question!
You have me thinking. Tell you what....I will take her 335 with just the MPPk
Out for a spin in the next day or two and subjectively see how the low end feels.
Except for bringing it home when I purchased it I haven't driven it much. Good opportunity for a test.

[The Nerd]

Originally Posted by Damon44

Very good question!
You have me thinking. Tell you what....I will take her 335 with just the MPPk
Out for a spin in the next day or two and subjectively see how the low end feels.
Except for bringing it home when I purchased it I haven't driven it much. Good opportunity for a test.

Any update? Just curious as I am very close to pulling the trigger on the Dinantronics upgrade (MPPK stacked version)....but I may be hesitant if there are negative effects on the low end torque or power curve.

Thanks!

[Damon44]

Originally Posted by The Nerd

Any update? Just curious as I am very close to pulling the trigger on the Dinantronics upgrade (MPPK stacked version)....but I may be hesitant if there are negative effects on the low end torque or power curve.

Thanks!

I had a chance to drive them back to back the other afternoon.
When accelerated easily ,not full throttle you do not feel a lag but the dinantronics gets me to 60mph in quite a bit less time. I had them both in sport mode incidentally.
My impression is there is a slight delay in Dinan at full throttle but it then kicks in and out accelerates the plain MPPk.
MPPk is smoother but you notice the lower torque when pushed.
I think it has to do with mapping of pedal and how far you have to depress it compared to MPPk
The Dinan has more raw power and sounds it. The MPPk gets you to 335 horse but you don't feel pushed into your seat.
I said it before, bmw should have the N55 at 335horses to begin with. They just make you pay more.
So in summary, subjectively the Dinan has slight turbo delay but by 2500-3000rpm it kicks in.
MPPk felt at onset but maxes out mid range speeds.

[fshubert]

This month's Roundel has article on 435i with MPPK. Author didn't notice much difference from stock 435i but didn't have an immediate comparison. First impression was the MPPK was not noticeable. I'll be looking for the difference in March when I drop off the old car and pick up the new car.

[Damon44]

Originally Posted by fshubert

This month's Roundel has article on 435i with MPPK. Author didn't notice much difference from stock 435i but didn't have an immediate comparison. First impression was the MPPK was not noticeable. I'll be looking for the difference in March when I drop off the old car and pick up the new car.

Forget what the author said. That is sheer nonsense. You obviously drove stock 335 or 435 off the dealer lot on your test drive.
The throttle mapping, acceleration, shift points, are all noticeable improved when you add 30 horses. Put it in sport mode and be prepared to smile. I found the greatest difference when the rpms were above 2500-3000.
Considering the ability to residualized the cost, you are buying that tune cheaply.

[Gio72]

Originally Posted by Damon44

Forget what the author said. That is sheer nonsense. You obviously drove stock 335 or 435 off the dealer lot on your test drive.
The throttle mapping, acceleration, shift points, are all noticeable improved when you add 30 horses. Put it in sport mode and be prepared to smile. I found the greatest difference when the rpms were above 2500-3000.
Considering the ability to residualized the cost, you are buying that tune cheaply.

I totally agree

[The Nerd]

Originally Posted by Damon44

I had a chance to drive them back to back the other afternoon.
When accelerated easily ,not full throttle you do not feel a lag but the dinantronics gets me to 60mph in quite a bit less time. I had them both in sport mode incidentally.
My impression is there is a slight delay in Dinan at full throttle but it then kicks in and out accelerates the plain MPPk.
MPPk is smoother but you notice the lower torque when pushed.
I think it has to do with mapping of pedal and how far you have to depress it compared to MPPk
The Dinan has more raw power and sounds it. The MPPk gets you to 335 horse but you don't feel pushed into your seat.
I said it before, bmw should have the N55 at 335horses to begin with. They just make you pay more.
So in summary, subjectively the Dinan has slight turbo delay but by 2500-3000rpm it kicks in.
MPPk felt at onset but maxes out mid range speeds.

I'm still baffled by the feeling of less power/torque at lower RPMs with the Dinantronics on (compared to stock MPPK). Has Dinan commented on this? I think another forum member mentioned a similar thing on his recent Dinan install, so it seems to be a symptom of this installation. Oh well....at least the midrange and top end make up for it.

On another note....are you RWD or AWD? Also, what tires are you running (size and type)? Just curious if the added torque from the Dinan is causing further traction issues (probably not if you have AWD).

[Damon44]

Originally Posted by The Nerd

On another note....are you RWD or AWD? Also, what tires are you running (size and type)? Just curious if the added torque from the Dinan is causing further traction issues (probably not if you have AWD).

I have rwd and 18" Light Alloy Wheel Double-spoke Style-397 w/ Perf.(opt 840)
Since I added M sport brakes
Believe they are Pirelli centauro?
I don't hear them slip but clearly the power seems more dramatic at midrange to upper rpm before turbos have Maxxed out.

[Mike_L]

Just pulled a 4.9 in my MPPK GT (with aFe intake). Test weight had to be close to 4500lbs, what with my fat ass and the heavier hatchback. Not bad, but still hoping it looses up with mileage (I have 850 miles on it)....... and mods

[CBoom]

After reading this thread I purchased the MPPK and have an appointment to have it installed next week
I was able to get the MPPK for $650! The dealer is going to charge (coincidentally) $335 for the install. It seems like this earlier F30 version with "only" 320 HP is getting cheaper all the time.

[drfullet87]

I can't crack 5.0 seconds in my 2014 335xi msport with mppk and mpe in manual mode. Do you have to use launch control to get these sub 5 second times? Especially if you're not the Stig?