[The Automotive Enthusiast]

Originally Posted by Prissy

Looks like the headlight and tail light housing shape won't change... Can't wait to see the new M-Sport kit.

The front and rear lights look significantly different compared to the current version.

[phant0m]

Originally Posted by Prissy

NOOOOOOOOO! I just ordered my car!

I wouldn't really worry too much. If these are going to be on the 2016s, you won't see them until around August/September. I don't know about you but I couldn't wait another 10 months..

[The Automotive Enthusiast]

I'm excited to see the rear lights. They look like they're LED, and look good. Not a huge fan of the current look. The slimmer lights look a lot better with the connecting grille too.

[Prissy]

Originally Posted by Rev ///Me

The front and rear lights look significantly different compared to the current version.

I am talking about the shape. Unlike the E9X LCIs, they looked different.

[Jmpascual]

Looks like it's gonna have 4 series concept type DRLs and full LED taillights.

[Jmpascual]

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.the rear Taillights are close

[Jmpascual]

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[Prissy]

Originally Posted by phant0m

I wouldn't really worry too much. If these are going to be on the 2016s, you won't see them until around August/September. I don't know about you but I couldn't wait another 10 months..

Ya... the extra 10 months is gonna be hard lol. The thing that gets my attention is that extra hp rumor.

[ZilberGrau ZHP]

Meh? The 4 series is and looks better - something has finally beat the 3 series- and it was BMW after everyone else has tried for years. Amazing. Not that the 3 is ugly but to me at least it is just ordinary. Obviously they can look very nice in MSport and M3 variations. But rank and file models are just nice but just doesn't have anything to get real excited about- The 4 Gran Coupe just looks special to me assuming a 3 series driver needs 4 doors. And yes while the 3 is more spacious than the Gran Coupe- but not by huge amounts- the driving experience of the lower, wider 4 GC is just a better experience to me compared with the more conventional ride height of the 3. The 4 GC with adaptive suspension feels as planted as my Z4M did at speed. No flaming please- I have been a 3 series owner with 3 E46 ZHPs since 2004 Sedan and 2 coupes (and the Z4M along the way) so have driven a lot of BMWs- and the F30 for a couple months. Very nice car- just not nice enough for the 50-65k that you will be dropping on higher end- non M models.

[shivaswrath]

Xenons are standard on 335i currently...

[The Automotive Enthusiast]

Originally Posted by Jmpascual

.the rear Taillights are close

[The Automotive Enthusiast]

Originally Posted by shivaswrath

Xenons are standard on 335i currently...

Yes, hopefully it becomes standard on the 328 too. It would be nice for it to be standard on the 320, but that's going to push the price up.

[Pauleebe]

Originally Posted by Rev ///Me

Yes, hopefully it becomes standard on the 328 too. It would be nice for it to be standard on the 320, but that's going to push the price up.

Yea, the 320 already skimps on a bunch of standard equipment that the 328 gets. The 320 is just a badge-mobile for those who want out of a Camry.

[The Automotive Enthusiast]

Originally Posted by dwalls90

Yea, the 320 already skimps on a bunch of standard equipment that the 328 gets. The 320 is just a badge-mobile for those who want out of a Camry.

If the guy who wanted to buy a Camry buys the 320, then the 320 has done it's job. That is the purpose of the car, to steal some customers who may go buy a Japanese car.

[Vitoco]

Originally Posted by dwalls90

Yea, the 320 already skimps on a bunch of standard equipment that the 328 gets. The 320 is just a badge-mobile for those who want out of a Camry.

So you mean a 335i is equal to a Camry except it has got a lot more power than the Toyota? Please. The only thing separati g the 335i and 320i is less power, u can get them equally loaded and with the 4 banger you'd have a car that even handles better. Stupid comment.

[Pauleebe]

Originally Posted by Rev ///Me

If the guy who wanted to buy a Camry buys the 320, then the 320 has done it's job. That is the purpose of the car, to steal some customers who may go buy a Japanese car.

Exactly my point.

Originally Posted by Vitoco

So you mean a 335i is equal to a Camry except it has got a lot more power than the Toyota? Please. The only thing separati g the 335i and 320i is less power, u can get them equally loaded and with the 4 banger you'd have a car that even handles better. Stupid comment.

You're out of touch if you think the 320 and 335 are identical aside from the engine. The 320 lacks plenty of standard equipment. You can't even equip a 320 to stack up to a 335.

[BK]

Originally Posted by Michael Schott

What suspension and engine upgrades are you talking about? The E90 LCI was in 2009 and any suspension changes (different shock absorber supplier) didn't happen until 2011. The N52 didn't change and the N55 replaced the N54 but that was not necessarily an upgrade except for better fuel economy.

A very minor point, but for the sake of completeness - BMW changed OEM shock absorber manufacturer on the E90 back in 2006 as well (Boge/Sachs prior to June 2006 production, Bilstein after). I remember this news because my car was June production.

N54 to N55 was probably the engine upgrade Fleet was talking about. Also, the N52 didn't get a slight HP boost with the LCI? For some reason I thought I did, but it's been a long time. The LCI definitely improved the look of the E90, and the iDrive was much improved, if I recall correctly.

[The Automotive Enthusiast]

Originally Posted by BK

A very minor point, but for the sake of completeness - BMW changed OEM shock absorber manufacturer on the E90 back in 2006 as well (Boge/Sachs prior to June 2006 production, Bilstein after). I remember this news because my car was June production.

N54 to N55 was probably the engine upgrade Fleet was talking about. Also, the N52 didn't get a slight HP boost with the LCI? For some reason I thought I did, but it's been a long time. The LCI definitely improved the look of the E90, and the iDrive was much improved, if I recall correctly.

[Vitoco]

Originally Posted by dwalls90

Exactly my point.



You're out of touch if you think the 320 and 335 are identical aside from the engine. The 320 lacks plenty of standard equipment. You can't even equip a 320 to stack up to a 335.

Standard, yes. But you can equip it equally, at least over here. But my point is not the equipment cause that´s not THE reason to go for a BMW over a Camry. It´s the fun and pleasure of driving the best handling car in the market that ain´t a super car. And on that point, the 4 pot has a slight edge over the 6 pot due to better weight distribution. So even an enthusiast can get what he wants in the relatively underpowered 320i, that´s what I meant.

[carzaddict]

in the US you cant spec a 320 like a 335.....they limit the options in the US market because they want people to buy a 328 or 335.

in europe because gas is so expensive...320's arent looked at as the "cheap" model like it is here...because people WANT/NEED a fuel efficient car.

you will NEVER see standard xenons on the 328...it will always be the lesser bitch car. its their highest seller because of its price. they wont want to disrupt the recipe they have for it