10-22-2012, 12:25 AM | #1 |
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F30 335i vs Lexus IS350
Performance wise, which is better? I ordered a 335i btw, in production now should receive in november or beg dec. I don't see a lot of them compared online. Lexus is 3.5L RWD 306hp.
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10-22-2012, 12:37 AM | #2 | |
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or; Would you rather be with a mindless Real Doll(TM) that can't do anything more than give you artificial self gratification in complete silence---just like the Lexus? |
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On paper, it looks like the Lexus is a bit slower 0 - 60 and is down on torque (270 vs the BMW's 300 lb-feet). Other than that, I've not driven the 350 variant, but drove the 250 during BMW's Olympic test drive event, and they both have the same transmission/suspension. These two items are the Lexus's biggest letdown, IMO. Not only is a manual transmission unavailable, but the automatic and engine do NOT work well together. The auto is slow to react when using the paddles, slow to react to 1/2-way to Wide-Open Throttle applications, and even slower to actually change gears when it grants a shift. Comparatively, the BMW's ZF transmission shifts pretty darn close to where I would when it's in Sport setting and gear changes are INSTANTANEOUS.
The suspension also didn't meet my butt-meter's expectations. Given Lexus's reputation as a purveyor of ultra-plush luxury cruisers, I was very surprised at harsh bump impact and a suspension I found unsorted and underwhelming. It seemed neither capable of coddling and isolating nor providing the Bimmer's buttoned-down predictability and balance. Pat yourself on the back for buying the better car. |
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Wanted to see the performance wise comparison cause my friend wants to take his is350 against my 335i after I break it in. His is all stock except for lower springs from tein. Lets see how that goes. Lol. |
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10-22-2012, 01:37 AM | #6 |
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i drove a 2006 IS350 when they first came out. now at the time i had a 2005 acura TSX.
lets jsut say the IS350 is really fast , but it feels so numb it doesnt matter. it has like 0 pedal feel and its just so isolated. like a RWD really fast camry. allegedly they have tried to improve this, but yeah its very floaty and disconnected. the 335i should probably easily beat (i would think even a 328i would be pretty close performance wise) it as its got an underrated engine that and the IS is not a particularly light car. |
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Btw how is the tsx? The new ones are kinda nice to me. |
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10-22-2012, 07:58 AM | #12 |
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1/4mile alone doesn't define such a car like a 335i or Lexus 350 imo.
Au contraire, I didn't know any 1/4 mile times at all when I ordered any BMW in the past years. Cheers Robin |
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We have a Lexus IS250, my wife drives it. It's not a bad car and it is a lot cheaper than the equivalent BMW but it is just not as good all round. I don't really feel like explaining every reason why but I will give a short list.
Things that make the 3 series better than an IS: -fold down seats -IS suspension is too stiff, makes a tinny, resonating sound in the cabin at speed when you're on a road with lots of cracks/expansion joints - IS seats kill my lower back on rides over an hour, the butt part is too narrow (and I'm not a fat guy) - Nav screen is annoying (touch screen sucks) and resolution is brutal/iphone integration sucks - sometimes the tranny doesnt know which gear it wants to be ....but the bimmer probably does this at times as well. Steering feel and brakes in the IS are good. |
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10-22-2012, 10:12 AM | #14 |
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I test drove both only briefly. The butt-dyno suggests they have very similar accelation - but the transmissions work way, way, WAY differently. The slushbox in the IS350 is pathetically slow. The ZF 8spd in the 335i is nicely responsive. For driving enjoyment, the 335i wins hands down. For bragging rights, not sure which would win, stock vs stock. For more bragging rights, the 335i's tune-ability is a clear advantage.
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At first I thought you were talking/referencing to the "stereotypical" drivers of each car: the first being the IS350 driver and the second being the BMW 335i driver ... but then it hits me, Real Dolls can't drive BMWs
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Source: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...st_test/?ti=v3 Other things being equal, I think a 335i will definitely beat an IS350 in any kind of straight-line test. Primarily due to the better transmission as other people said. Although I would guess BMW's engine probably makes more power in the real world too, even if they're about the same on paper. Not to mention I'm sure the BMW is better in lots of other ways. |
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Where did u order ur 335i at?? SA built??
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There needs to be more ladies like that!!! Love women who dig cars and motorcycles.
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