BMS JB Stage 1 vs. AFE Power Scorcher Module

pkancel · 06-30-2013, 02:04 PM

Bad example: the speed limit is 55 but our cars can do well over 100, isnt that kind of the same thing...free will

Exhaust, downpipe, etc all are pretty much the same concept, modifications and BMW can just as easily say they wont warranty the car with those mods either.

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Originally Posted by mocohead

What you're saying is that you won't partner in warranty fraud, but if your customers want to commit it, you will gladly sell them a product to help. When you get a moment you might want to look-up the definition of hypocrisy...

NosceTeIpsum · 10-19-2013, 11:58 AM

I ordered my BMS stage 1 last night, I will surely ask for help when it gets here =)

David328M-Sport · 10-19-2013, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by NosceTeIpsum

I ordered my BMS stage 1 last night, I will surely ask for help when it gets here =)

Congrats. Seriously, you probably won't. It's so easy to install and it's a p&p unit. Just follow the photo install pdf and take it easy with connector removal & re-connecting orientation. Not at all hard to do. Enjoy. You will LOVE it.

TheDukeYYC · 10-20-2013, 11:20 PM

What sort of gains would I see going from BMS Stage 1 to BMS Stage 2 to on my 320i, keeping in mind I run 94 octane non-ethanol fuel?

Is it worth going to Stage 2, or only if I can run 50/50 (or higher) Ethanol blends for 100+ effective Octane?

Andrew115 · 11-04-2013, 08:53 AM

Hi, I am in Charlotte if anyone has an afe or another bms or even stock and want to compare the differences. I am happy to oblige.

GAV-F30 · 12-29-2013, 01:26 AM

I need to ask if you have a DOWN PIPE with BMS JB4 and you take your car to the

dealer for service you DISCONNECT the JB4 wont the ERROR CODE come up while

your driving because of the DOWN PIPE.

THANKS

manticor · 02-23-2014, 04:58 PM

Wow, have a 328i m sport arriving in 8 weeks and this thread is most interesting. Coming from the Evo and Sti world it's odd to me that nobody has actually attempted to really tune these cars... Cobb comes to mind right away... How I'd love to be able to go to EFI logics in the north east and get a custom, maximized and safe toon for this car... Guess for once if nothing better comes out I'll leave my car stock

On the same topic, what about Remus? They seem to have a "tune" module also. Anyone tried them?

Jamesons Viggen · 02-23-2014, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by manticor

Wow, have a 328i m sport arriving in 8 weeks and this thread is most interesting. Coming from the Evo and Sti world it's odd to me that nobody has actually attempted to really tune these cars... Cobb comes to mind right away... How I'd love to be able to go to EFI logics in the north east and get a custom, maximized and safe toon for this car... Guess for once if nothing better comes out I'll leave my car stock

On the same topic, what about Remus? They seem to have a "tune" module also. Anyone tried them?

Cobb is working on F30 tunes already.

Safety2213 · 02-23-2014, 11:25 PM

Any eta from COBB

manticor · 02-24-2014, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamesons Viggen

Cobb is working on F30 tunes already.

I sure hope to god this is true.

Jamesons Viggen · 02-24-2014, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BobbyP

Any eta from COBB

Its awhile out. Hopefully before the end of the year.

slmdgee · 02-24-2014, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamesons Viggen

Its awhile out. Hopefully before the end of the year.

Yeah cobb would deff do it for me.

buckeyede06 · 03-04-2014, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by VANOS

dude, sorry to be rude but, please don't give me a wise ass answer bro, if you have nothing good to say then leave the thread alright? And for your information i already did check the other ones and didn't get enough info on the two... hence why i am making this one to get more info and to help others in the future who want to do the same...

+1 ya thanks I was looking for the same info and had a hard time finding. This thread is pointing toward the BMS for sure, thanks

EBIINYC · 12-17-2014, 06:44 PM

This is a very interesting thread so far, is it common for a tune of this sort to have some soft of potential to change over time?

As far as I know this kind of tune is based off of consistent parameters so I'm unsure as to why people are reporting a slower car at some times and a faster car during others.

Being that this tune only affects the boost pressure then having that nominal change shouldnt reduce performance as far as im aware.

Can anyone clarify?

FSociety · 02-03-2015, 04:49 PM

Whats everyone running this winter? How is it doing?

Here you can see how my RaceChip on X3 28i vs X3 35i vs X3 28i Dinan is doing

goon · 02-03-2015, 09:09 PM

I went with afe and I couldn't be happier. Ridiculously easy to install. I am having a hard time driving in anything other than sport mode.

wolves · 02-03-2015, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by slmdgee

Yeah cobb would deff do it for me.

So this isn't happening correct?

Haven't seen them say anything regarding the F30s. At least not the 328/320. Not sure if there's a 335 tune.

smithf80 · 02-03-2015, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by wolves

So this isn't happening correct?

Haven't seen them say anything regarding the F30s. At least not the 328/320. Not sure if there's a 335 tune.

Yeah I wouldn't hold your breath on Cobb. They stopped caring about BMW.

wolves · 02-03-2015, 11:25 PM

Thought as such. I'm going to hold out for a bit longer on a tune.

ASV731 · 02-04-2015, 09:24 AM

I've decided to get a tune very soon, so I've read up a lot on the differences between the AFE scorcher and the BMS stage 1 and because of the smoothness of the AFE and the increased torque I'm leaning towards that one. However is it true that the BMS clears hidden tuner codes because it has MAF control unlike the AFE? One necessary requirement for any tune I get is that it can be removed before servicing so the dealer will never find out. Can anyone comment on this or has anyone had experience with their dealer finding/not finding any tuner codes? Thanks

n8236 · 02-23-2015, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ASV731

I've decided to get a tune very soon, so I've read up a lot on the differences between the AFE scorcher and the BMS stage 1 and because of the smoothness of the AFE and the increased torque I'm leaning towards that one. However is it true that the BMS clears hidden tuner codes because it has MAF control unlike the AFE? One necessary requirement for any tune I get is that it can be removed before servicing so the dealer will never find out. Can anyone comment on this or has anyone had experience with their dealer finding/not finding any tuner codes? Thanks

A lot of misinformation w/ all the threads. Can someone speak to what is being asked above? My 428i M Sport arrives in two days.

Larry Chijner · 02-23-2015, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by n8236

A lot of misinformation w/ all the threads. Can someone speak to what is being asked above? My 428i M Sport arrives in two days.

Check into Dinan Tune. I absolutely love mine. Works great .
You will not be disappointed.
2014 428ix M Sport

Larry C. Pittsburgh Pa

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