List Your Biggest Mod Regrets

BunkerJ · 01-25-2018, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Zel335

Yup, ER catless and midpipe from them. Sounds like a farm tractor, it has it's plus sides as in WOT driving, but past that I would have like something that goes more back to normal sound when not in WOT.

I'm your 328i twin. Accelerating/WOT is amazing and I don't mind it being loud, but during comfort/eco, the acceleration is too slow and sounds like a tractor. I basically just drive in sport all the time now, haha.

Zel335 · 01-26-2018, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by JaredG_F30

Gotcha! I wonder how the AWE compares to the Borla Atak. I was thinking of going the Bora or AWE route but went custom instead and have been happy with the results. I hope you find a solution you like. Maybe put the stocker back on. I've heard good things about stock exhaust with catless DP.

Nah that stock exhaust is long gone. I'll have a change soon from the sounds of it will see what happens.

Seba77W · 01-26-2018, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by matty088

what does resonator delete mean?

It means you cut out your stock resonator and replace it with a straight pipe. A resonator is supposed to help keep the drone down.

KevDon92 · 01-26-2018, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Zel335

Yup, ER catless and midpipe from them. Sounds like a farm tractor, it has it's plus sides as in WOT driving, but past that I would have like something that goes more back to normal sound when not in WOT.

I was planning on going with a catless DP since my AWE with midpipe isn’t quite loud enough, but not sure after reading this

Zel335 · 01-26-2018, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by KevDon92

I was planning on going with a catless DP since my AWE with midpipe isn’t quite loud enough, but not sure after reading this

I mean it's really each to their own, you'll find a hand full of people that love it, but I'm not one. Maybe I'm just getting old.

Mouse · 01-26-2018, 07:20 PM

Muffler delete with vibrant resonators was def a mistake for me. Absolutely horrible drone.

My Corsa exhaust isn’t crazy loud, but even with kittyless dp, almost no drone.

redlineryder · 01-26-2018, 10:40 PM

I love my AWE axleback exhaust it's a great piece and the sound... almost exotic at certain rpm range. I kept the stock midpipe though since deleting a resonator would only make it drone more with the catless dp. Why delete resonators on street cars? they don't restrict flow and only make the car drone. My f30 has the catalytic converter warm up cycle coded out (Bootmod3) so it's not bad on cold start, others may think its obnoxious but I love it. 8AT in manual 95% when not in traffic.

Biggest mod regret is throwing money at a car instead of moving to a better performing platform. I've modified several cars in the past and my modding philosophy now is less is more when it comes to mods.

matty088 · 01-27-2018, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by redlineryder

Biggest mod regret is throwing money at a car instead of moving to a better performing platform. I've modified several cars in the past and my modding philosophy now is less is more when it comes to mods.

This is a great platform. It's not a race car by any means. It is however a quick car that makes the commute better. It's an everyday car. I can drive it 80 miles a day and not worry about putting miles on it

Mike. · 01-27-2018, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by matty088

what does resonator delete mean?

i cut out the resonator for more braaaap.

Mix that with a catless DP and you get rasp

Eternal · 01-28-2018, 06:25 AM

When I bought my car it already had full exhaust delete. As in, after the downpipe, it is straight piped all the way back. No mufflers or resonators.

I just got FBO and will be installing when it warms up. I am not sure how the cattless downpipe is going to make it sound, but I imagine horrible

The dealer I bought it from told me they took the car on a trade and were going to put a stock exhuast on it, but I loved the sound, so I told them to leave it. I kind of regret it now.

terryd5150 · 01-28-2018, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Eternal

When I bought my car it already had full exhaust delete. As in, after the downpipe, it is straight piped all the way back. No mufflers or resonators.

I just got FBO and will be installing when it warms up. I am not sure how the cattless downpipe is going to make it sound, but I imagine horrible

The dealer I bought it from told me they took the car on a trade and were going to put a stock exhuast on it, but I loved the sound, so I told them to leave it. I kind of regret it now.

I had the same experience with a previous owner muffler delete on an E92.

I didn't like it either.

I did get lucky though, I found a JB4 on it; I sold it and put the money towards a new exhaust.

redlineryder · 01-28-2018, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by matty088

This is a great platform. It's not a race car by any means. It is however a quick car that makes the commute better. It's an everyday car. I can drive it 80 miles a day and not worry about putting miles on it

Agreed. I was referring to my Honda days.

Physics · 02-06-2018, 02:30 PM

Seasoned veteran on many BMW platforms. N54, N55 (e), S65, N55 (f)...

1. Catless DP on N55 (e). No secondary cats and if not running E85 smells will have wife complaining.
2. Intake... on any car. Money waste (unless going for sound)
3. 19" rims. NVH is dramatically increased, larger rotational mass, and fragile against mild potholes.
4. Converting exterior/interior to M/Sport packages instead of waiting and simply purchasing the vehicle equipped with it. Would've saved so much on the first vehicles.
5. BBK... no need unless tracking. Even at 600+ whp. No need.
6. inlets on the N54. Made blow off sound like a wet fart. Had to tap manifold and reduce spring to fix... still never sounded right.

I could go on. Purchased a F30 M sport, EWG. In terms of mods, FMIC + DP + CP + tune and your golden. Anything more than that...

BlueCrabMafia · 02-06-2018, 02:58 PM

Bilstein B14 coilovers. When I first installed them on my Sportline, initially I thought there was little difference in ride quality vs the M Sport.

Wrong. They are not horrible by any means, but given where I live (NE Ohio) the roads and weather here do not go with coilovers. At zero degrees temperature the fluid practically becomes solid. I'm dodging potholes left and right for fear of damaging something.

If this was a track car or weekend warm weather toy, they'd be great. For a 365 day daily driver in a cold climate with shit roads, I wouldn't recommend them.

They'll be coming off soon for Eibach's and OEM Sport struts.

TMac335i · 02-06-2018, 08:38 PM

Getting a 335i without paddle shifters. I know it sounds like a small thing but it drives me crazy. That and the sport line steering wheel. Should of held out to find that perfect M sport but I rushed.

Aftermarket parts include

BC coils - so far not bad but nervous they will start squeaking.
JB4 - not a fan of the new update without the auto delete for the catless downpipe
Catless DP- great
Charge pipe - great
BMS intake - great
Tires - continentals, good for the money but I miss the grip of the super sports

On the way FMIC and AA exhaust.

ceedawg · 02-08-2018, 09:25 PM

Buying a 335i instead of a 340i

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 02-09-2018, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ceedawg

Buying a 335i instead of a 340i

LOL

Mike

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 02-09-2018, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mouse

Muffler delete with vibrant resonators was def a mistake for me. Absolutely horrible drone.

My Corsa exhaust isn’t crazy loud, but even with kittyless dp, almost no drone.

With exhausts its best to get a resonated one if you are doing downpipes.. Without a resonator or cats you get drone which can be very annoying at certain RPMs.

I usually recommend if going catless get the resonated version of the AWE or other exhaust.. If keep the downpipes stock then you can get the non-resonated version.

I am also a fan of the sound of the stock exhaust with catless downpipes, so thats something to consider as well.. Cheaper then a full exhaust

Mike

ceedawg · 02-09-2018, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

With exhausts its best to get a resonated one if you are doing downpipes.. Without a resonator or cats you get drone which can be very annoying at certain RPMs.

I usually recommend if going catless get the resonated version of the AWE or other exhaust.. If keep the downpipes stock then you can get the non-resonated version.

I am also a fan of the sound of the stock exhaust with catless downpipes, so thats something to consider as well.. Cheaper then a full exhaust

Mike

I agree Mike your asessment of the stock exhaust. It does have one weird crushed area towards the back but it is nothing that warrants me to change it

I was surprised at how big the stock exhaust is!

matty088 · 02-09-2018, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

I am also a fan of the sound of the stock exhaust with catless downpipes, so thats something to consider as well.. Cheaper then a full exhaust

Mike

What about dp with the mpe?

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 02-09-2018, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by matty088

What about dp with the mpe?

Yes also a great combo.. Obviously slightly louder then OE exhaust but not too loud.

Mike

scostu · 02-09-2018, 06:29 PM

Front lower splitter that attaches to the Msport front bumper.

I'm a wagon, with Xdrive, and I still scrape. Yes, I do know how to drive upgrades/downgrades at angles.

Doesn't help when I drive down US1 @60mph with road debris.

I finally had to remove it. Love the look but couple times, felt like my whole front bumper was gonna come off.

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Mouse Second Lieutenant 95 Rep 279 Posts Drives: 2013F30 335i Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Cypress, TX iTrader: (0)	Muffler delete with vibrant resonators was def a mistake for me. Absolutely horrible drone. My Corsa exhaust isn’t crazy loud, but even with kittyless dp, almost no drone. __________________ 13' F30 335i - BMS Intake -- VRSF DP -- VRSF CP -- VRSF 5" Stepped Intercooler -- Corsa Touring Catback -- JB4 -- H&R Springs -- Miro Flow Formed F25's
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redlineryder Private 4 Rep 69 Posts Drives: . Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	I love my AWE axleback exhaust it's a great piece and the sound... almost exotic at certain rpm range. I kept the stock midpipe though since deleting a resonator would only make it drone more with the catless dp. Why delete resonators on street cars? they don't restrict flow and only make the car drone. My f30 has the catalytic converter warm up cycle coded out (Bootmod3) so it's not bad on cold start, others may think its obnoxious but I love it. 8AT in manual 95% when not in traffic. Biggest mod regret is throwing money at a car instead of moving to a better performing platform. I've modified several cars in the past and my modding philosophy now is less is more when it comes to mods. Last edited by redlineryder; 01-26-2018 at 10:46 PM..
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Eternal Lieutenant 95 Rep 463 Posts Drives: 2015 435i xDrive Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: North Carolina iTrader: (3)	When I bought my car it already had full exhaust delete. As in, after the downpipe, it is straight piped all the way back. No mufflers or resonators. I just got FBO and will be installing when it warms up. I am not sure how the cattless downpipe is going to make it sound, but I imagine horrible The dealer I bought it from told me they took the car on a trade and were going to put a stock exhuast on it, but I loved the sound, so I told them to leave it. I kind of regret it now.
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02-06-2018, 02:30 PM	#35
Physics Private First Class 17 Rep 102 Posts Drives: 2009 E92 M3 Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Houston iTrader: (3)	Seasoned veteran on many BMW platforms. N54, N55 (e), S65, N55 (f)... 1. Catless DP on N55 (e). No secondary cats and if not running E85 smells will have wife complaining. 2. Intake... on any car. Money waste (unless going for sound) 3. 19" rims. NVH is dramatically increased, larger rotational mass, and fragile against mild potholes. 4. Converting exterior/interior to M/Sport packages instead of waiting and simply purchasing the vehicle equipped with it. Would've saved so much on the first vehicles. 5. BBK... no need unless tracking. Even at 600+ whp. No need. 6. inlets on the N54. Made blow off sound like a wet fart. Had to tap manifold and reduce spring to fix... still never sounded right. I could go on. Purchased a F30 M sport, EWG. In terms of mods, FMIC + DP + CP + tune and your golden. Anything more than that...
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02-06-2018, 02:58 PM	#36
BlueCrabMafia First Lieutenant 178 Rep 396 Posts Drives: 2012 328i Sport Line Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Cleveland iTrader: (4)	Bilstein B14 coilovers. When I first installed them on my Sportline, initially I thought there was little difference in ride quality vs the M Sport. Wrong. They are not horrible by any means, but given where I live (NE Ohio) the roads and weather here do not go with coilovers. At zero degrees temperature the fluid practically becomes solid. I'm dodging potholes left and right for fear of damaging something. If this was a track car or weekend warm weather toy, they'd be great. For a 365 day daily driver in a cold climate with shit roads, I wouldn't recommend them. They'll be coming off soon for Eibach's and OEM Sport struts.
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TMac335i 335i F30 68 Rep 252 Posts Drives: 2013 F30 Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: South Florida iTrader: (0)	Getting a 335i without paddle shifters. I know it sounds like a small thing but it drives me crazy. That and the sport line steering wheel. Should of held out to find that perfect M sport but I rushed. Aftermarket parts include BC coils - so far not bad but nervous they will start squeaking. JB4 - not a fan of the new update without the auto delete for the catless downpipe Catless DP- great Charge pipe - great BMS intake - great Tires - continentals, good for the money but I miss the grip of the super sports On the way FMIC and AA exhaust. __________________ 13' F30 335i Mineral White Metallic Sport Package \| 19" Rotiform SPF \| BC Coilovers Coral Red Interior \| H/K Package Active Autowerke Flash Tune, FMIC, Exhaust \| BMS Intake \| VRSF DP \| VRSF CP
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02-08-2018, 09:25 PM	#38
ceedawg Major 468 Rep 1,348 Posts Drives: 2k15 335i xdrive MSport 6spd Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Big City iTrader: (0)	Buying a 335i instead of a 340i __________________ 2k15 335i Msport xdrive 6spd Wagner Comp2 FMIC,FTP CP,stock exhaust. Fabspeed Sport catted DP, KW V2 coil overs,FBO BM3 Stg 2
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scostu Colonel 1623 Rep 2,036 Posts Drives: 2016 F25 Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Space Coast Florida...aka NASA area iTrader: (0)	Front lower splitter that attaches to the Msport front bumper. I'm a wagon, with Xdrive, and I still scrape. Yes, I do know how to drive upgrades/downgrades at angles. Doesn't help when I drive down US1 @60mph with road debris. I finally had to remove it. *Love the look* but couple times, felt like my whole front bumper was gonna come off. __________________
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