[codeyf]

New to the board, looking to become a full card-carrying member very soon.

I'm heading down tomorrow morning to take a look at this beaut:

http://www.autoconnectionseast.net/3...-M-Sport-Sedan

Is there anything I should be on the look out for when driving or visually inspecting it?

Price, to me, seems a bit high for west coast, specifically when comparing to CA. But the gap narrows quite a bit when I factor in shipping to WA state. Either way, will see where they're at in terms of willingness to deal.

Thanks in advance!

***EDIT***

Trigger has been pulled on this beaut:



https://www.beepi.com/Buy/bmw/3-seri...3A9C51DF477087

She was posted here in the classifieds as a lease takeover. Seller ran out of time, and listed it with Beepi. Solid price and free delivery.

M Sport Package
Technology Package
Premium Package

And, the M Performance Power Kit

[sygazelle]

Originally Posted by codeyf

New to the board, looking to become a full card-carrying member very soon.

I'm heading down tomorrow morning to take a look at this beaut:

http://www.autoconnectionseast.net/3...-M-Sport-Sedan

Is there anything I should be on the look out for when driving or visually inspecting it?

Price, to me, seems a bit high for west coast, specifically when comparing to CA. But the gap narrows quite a bit when I factor in shipping to WA state. Either way, will see where they're at in terms of willingness to deal.

Thanks in advance!

The price does seem high, especially since its not a BMW Certified Pre-Owned (CPO) vehicle.

I checked cars.com and found a 2013 335 m-sport for $39k with less miles. So, you should negotiate hard on price so you can get a proper extended warranty. I just checked 250 miles around the Seattle area. If you are willing to fetch it or have it shipped, there are many more 335 CPO cars from which to choose.

Good luck!


http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/de...1573/overview/

[sygazelle]

Originally Posted by codeyf

New to the board, looking to become a full card-carrying member very soon.

I'm heading down tomorrow morning to take a look at this beaut:

http://www.autoconnectionseast.net/3...-M-Sport-Sedan

Is there anything I should be on the look out for when driving or visually inspecting it?

Price, to me, seems a bit high for west coast, specifically when comparing to CA. But the gap narrows quite a bit when I factor in shipping to WA state. Either way, will see where they're at in terms of willingness to deal.

Thanks in advance!

Also, did you test drive a 328i m-sport? The engine sound is not the same but it is plenty fast for most. If not, at least test drive one before you make your choice. The N55 is a great engine, but the N20 is also amazing and you will find a much larger selection and lower pricing. Just a thought.

[codeyf]

Originally Posted by sygazelle

Also, did you test drive a 328i m-sport? The engine sound is not the same but it is plenty fast for most. If not, at least test drive one before you make your choice. The N55 is a great engine, but the N20 is also amazing and you will find a much larger selection and lower pricing. Just a thought.

I did not, and I am hesitant to. While it'd still be an overall upgrade car-wise, I can't help but feel like it'd be a downgrade from my current 3.5L 280hp V6.

[RM7]

Originally Posted by codeyf

I did not, and I am hesitant to. While it'd still be an overall upgrade car-wise, I can't help but feel like it'd be a downgrade from my current 3.5L 280hp V6.

The n20 dynos about 240hp and 250tq, that means the power at the rear wheels, the 3.5 v6 would be lucky to dyno anywhere near that much tq. As an example, the Subaru sti with its "300" hp dynos about the same hp and slightly less tq. Not only that, but the tq is available at super low rpm, compared to having to wring the v6 up to 5000rpm. I think you'd be fine. The Japanese are falling behind due to their resistance to turbocharged engines (ironic given the history). Even Cadillac and Gm get it, with their 2.0 turbo engine being a better and more torque rich engine than the v6 option.

[phoshizzle]

definitely ask for the history of the car. salvaged title? etc

[codeyf]

Originally Posted by phoshizzle

definitely ask for the history of the car. salvaged title? etc

Title is clean, have checked in to that (also linked in their listing).

That being said, they're not willing to move on the price at all apparently. Even though they've had it for at least 3 weeks, and dropped it once by $1k.

I offered just shy of $41k in cash/trade ($35k + $5.7k). They came back saying it needed to be $38k + trade. Considering sales tax here is a terrible 9.5%, plus registration, they maybe came off a couple hundred bucks.

For $43-44k gross, I can get a Cali CPO shipped to me, and have money left over.

The search continues.

[300hp]

Msport 13 335is are best left alone. I had one which BMW helped me replace with a 14 a year ago. 13 msports were the first F30 msports and they are different from the other lines.

[Portimao Blues]

Originally Posted by codeyf

Title is clean, have checked in to that (also linked in their listing).

That being said, they're not willing to move on the price at all apparently. Even though they've had it for at least 3 weeks, and dropped it once by $1k.

I offered just shy of $41k in cash/trade ($35k + $5.7k). They came back saying it needed to be $38k + trade. Considering sales tax here is a terrible 9.5%, plus registration, they maybe came off a couple hundred bucks.

For $43-44k gross, I can get a Cali CPO shipped to me, and have money left over.

The search continues.

At that price, that car is gonna sit on the lot. If you can't find anything comparable, go back at the end of August and make another offer. You should be under $40k all-in.

[codeyf]

Originally Posted by Estoril Blues

At that price, that car is gonna sit on the lot. If you can't find anything comparable, go back at the end of August and make another offer. You should be under $40k all-in.

Yeah, it's been sitting for about a month, if not longer as it is. Was at $41k before they dropped it just over a week ago. If it was AW with all packages, I'd consider stretching the budget. But for this one, nah.

I like the EB, but AW is actually my first choice.

Thanks much for the input guys.

[F48_Driver]

Definitely can get a better deal...

I got a 13 335i with the same specs except 6MT for 39k at 9k miles back in May before the 340i was released.

Wouldn't be surprised to get something like that for 37k

[casualDIYer]

Originally Posted by Estoril Blues

At that price, that car is gonna sit on the lot. If you can't find anything comparable, go back at the end of August and make another offer. You should be under $40k all-in.

+1

There are a lot 3-series out there so I'd suggest keep looking.

This is one reason I gave up buying and went to leasing. As a previous seller of a 3-series I thought I'd have better luck getting more value out of selling a half bag of opened potato chips. Blue, Red, Blackbook or whatever used car buying guide used, buyer's moto was 'cut the price to ribbons'. Take it to the dealer? Saw one offer $4500 for a 2003 M3 in great condition. I had to restrain myself from laughing out loud.

I had heard of a potential issue with California cars and out of state buyers. Someone mentioned even out of state buyers had to pay CA state tax and could get it back in a refund. Guess what they never got back? I'd ask about that.

Have you tried Ebay? Not always stellar pricing but lots of feedback.

Good luck.

[codeyf]

Originally Posted by menncars

+1

There are a lot 3-series out there so I'd suggest keep looking.

This is one reason I gave up buying and went to leasing. As a previous seller of a 3-series I thought I'd have better luck getting more value out of selling a half bag of opened potato chips. Blue, Red, Blackbook or whatever used car buying guide used, buyer's moto was 'cut the price to ribbons'. Take it to the dealer? Saw one offer $4500 for a 2003 M3 in great condition. I had to restrain myself from laughing out loud.

I had heard of a potential issue with California cars and out of state buyers. Someone mentioned even out of state buyers had to pay CA state tax and could get it back in a refund. Guess what they never got back? I'd ask about that.

Have you tried Ebay? Not always stellar pricing but lots of feedback.

Good luck.

I have been watching eBay, and there is a nice silver Sportline with the 19" M Sport wheels on everest gray interior that looks pretty sharp. Oddly enough, the online inventory, as well as my local, is a bit on the low side right now. Unless I want black on black, in which case there are 4-5.

The deal with Cali cars is, if it is driven on CA roads at all, you have to pay CA sales tax. So if I want to buy a 1 way ticket for a couple hundo, and spend the 17 hours driving home, in lieu of the ~$1200 shipping, then I'm subject to the 9.5% sales tax.

THEN, when I go to register it here in WA, I will be subject to the WA sales tax, which is ANOTHER 9.5%. So, double whammy.

Long Beach has a AW on black M Sport CPO for $37k, but it's missing both Premium and Cold Weather packages. I'd be ok if it were one or the other, but don't want to settle for neither.

First world problems, for sure! I'm sure I'll be posting here as a new driver within the month, so not losing too much sleep over it.

There is actually a REALLY nice one in the member classifieds, for lease take over / buyout. I've responded to the thread a couple times, as well as direct through their CL ad which I found, but no response.

[codeyf]

Alright, arranging to have a friend that is local to this give it a discerning once over:

http://www.cotroneoautogroup.com/web...exas/23045417/

Has all the packages I'd want, and I'm ok with Sportline in lieu of M Sport. The 403M wheels help ease that compromise quite a bit.

[DFW_M]

Originally Posted by Estoril Blues

At that price, that car is gonna sit on the lot. If you can't find anything comparable, go back at the end of August and make another offer. You should be under $40k all-in.

The greedy stealers probably got the car from someone for $33k and now trying to rip the next guy off.

OP, have you considered the Beep Inc. (beepi.com)?

[codeyf]

Checked Beep, nothing catching my eye. Might try that for selling the G35 though.

[Portimao Blues]

Originally Posted by codeyf

Alright, arranging to have a friend that is local to this give it a discerning once over:

http://www.cotroneoautogroup.com/web...exas/23045417/

Has all the packages I'd want, and I'm ok with Sportline in lieu of M Sport. The 403M wheels help ease that compromise quite a bit.

I like it! This car looks very clean and in great condition. Silver is one of the easiest colors to maintain. I also love that it has the optional 19-inch rims. If you can get this car for $35,000 or less, do it!

[F48_Driver]

Damn that's a good price.... Looks like it has all the upgrades...

[Gastoys]

Wow! BMW's have the worst resale value, that car lost $20k in 24 months - sad!

[F48_Driver]

That's why I buy used... I thought a got a decent deal few months ago... Guess not lol

[jayg80]

Originally Posted by codeyf

I have been watching eBay, and there is a nice silver Sportline with the 19" M Sport wheels on everest gray interior that looks pretty sharp. Oddly enough, the online inventory, as well as my local, is a bit on the low side right now. Unless I want black on black, in which case there are 4-5.

The deal with Cali cars is, if it is driven on CA roads at all, you have to pay CA sales tax. So if I want to buy a 1 way ticket for a couple hundo, and spend the 17 hours driving home, in lieu of the ~$1200 shipping, then I'm subject to the 9.5% sales tax.

THEN, when I go to register it here in WA, I will be subject to the WA sales tax, which is ANOTHER 9.5%. So, double whammy.

Long Beach has a AW on black M Sport CPO for $37k, but it's missing both Premium and Cold Weather packages. I'd be ok if it were one or the other, but don't want to settle for neither.

First world problems, for sure! I'm sure I'll be posting here as a new driver within the month, so not losing too much sleep over it.

There is actually a REALLY nice one in the member classifieds, for lease take over / buyout. I've responded to the thread a couple times, as well as direct through their CL ad which I found, but no response.

You wont get hit with double tax. When you go to register your car in WA you will get credit for the sales tax you paid in CA or whatever other state. When I just purchased a car from OR and residing in CA the OR dealer charged me CA sales tax and sent all of the necessary paperwork to the DMV near my house. When I went to the DMV my license plate and reg paperwork was waiting for me.

Check out the link below from the WA Dept of Revenue regarding the tax credit:
http://dor.wa.gov/content/getaformor...evehicles.aspx

[codeyf]

Originally Posted by jayg80

You wont get hit with double tax. When you go to register your car in WA you will get credit for the sales tax you paid in CA or whatever other state. When I just purchased a car from OR and residing in CA the OR dealer charged me CA sales tax and sent all of the necessary paperwork to the DMV near my house. When I went to the DMV my license plate and reg paperwork was waiting for me.

Check out the link below from the WA Dept of Revenue regarding the tax credit:
http://dor.wa.gov/content/getaformor...evehicles.aspx

Ah, interesting. Clearly the CA I was talking to at Long Beach didn't know how thing worked. This changes things!