New Lexus IS Chief Engineer - Goal is once again to try to overtake BMW 3 Series

jaehshim · 01-23-2013, 01:20 PM

I always have been a fan of Lexus, had them for a long time as a daily driver in the family. still have a current gen IS as DD.
They really do drive smooth and work as a great DD and a long distance cruiser.

But this isn't the best move by Lexus, even before it reaches the dealers I wanna say it's a FAIL.
Okay, so they want to be "sporty" as other flagship cars, did they make it happen?
To my observation, NO.

Exterior - fail, they are walking the road ACURA has gone...kinda sad because Lexus always used to have the great, mild styled designs.
Interior - Always too much "high end quality" plastics in Lexus, that's just a lexus thing. Love their leather
Electronics - Why using those "mouse control" on NAV...? Their traditional touchscreen Was so much easier to use. why overcomplicate things?
Performance - We should wait for the IS-F, not the IS350 F sport bs, its engine's been around for too long, and there's no way it can compete with engines like the latest BMW efficient turbos + M's S65 NAs.
Lastly, if they're going "SPORTY", at least give us 6MT on IS350 like infinitis do with their G models. Lexus's current automatics are pathetic...

LeMans E90 · 01-23-2013, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by alex2364

I didn't view the video, but did he really use the words, "once again to try to overtake BMW 3 Series"? They have never overtook the 3 Series to begin with.

I think he meant once again attempt to overtake the 3 series...

Like everyone else stated, looks much better in real life.

jaehshim · 01-23-2013, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Carnook

That video is soooooo boring. Was it meant to put me to sleep? I hope the IS is more exciting in person.

wake up now

NAV8TT · 01-23-2013, 01:25 PM

Yeah "lets attempt....once again to overtake BMW....especially by making our cars look more like corollas every year....sigh"

3M TAPE · 01-23-2013, 01:31 PM

Beautiful car

mdsbuc · 01-23-2013, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alex2364

I didn't view the video, but did he really use the words, "once again to try to overtake BMW 3 Series"? They have never overtook the 3 Series to begin with.

You're right, they have never overtaken the 3 series.

The title reads:
"Once again try to overtake the BMW..."

not

"Once again overtake...."

aguckenberger · 01-23-2013, 01:36 PM

Looks awful! They need a much better car to be the 3 series

bosz · 01-23-2013, 01:43 PM

still think the interior is better than my F30. LOTS more gadgetry and the instrument cluster is just wow. Dont mind the back but just hate the front

InTheNightKitchen · 01-23-2013, 01:43 PM

I don't care what any of you say that IS is beautiful, new shoes and an exhaust to pronounce the motor and good to go!

HoundForHire · 01-23-2013, 01:56 PM

>overtake the 3 series
>use the same NA carryover engines

Pick one Lexus.

ussoldierforhire · 01-23-2013, 02:03 PM

Sorry, I would rather not own a Toyota.

JChan · 01-23-2013, 02:08 PM

lol, his first mistake was when he thought an IS was a more sportier version compared to a BMW or Merc.

rori zahr · 01-23-2013, 02:16 PM

As boring as his car. Overtake the 3 Series? Yes sure, year 3013... Probably

Saphirschwarz · 01-23-2013, 02:21 PM

please hire a fucking designer before you try again in 5 years

3M TAPE · 01-23-2013, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JChan

lol, his first mistake was when he thought an IS was a more sportier version compared to a BMW or Merc.

Don't think so, you might want to watch that vid again

Staszek · 01-23-2013, 02:21 PM

From the exterior I dont think it looks half bad. I really liked the last version of the IS, but as others have stated its weak points were the drivetrain. The IS350 was ok but the IS250 was just a waist of a car and that was the bread and butter version. It took a step backwards over the IS300 it replaced.

I will say I dont get the interior, it does remind me of some much earlier corolla or the Subaru XT

justinnum1 · 01-23-2013, 02:29 PM

Keep trying bro.

DASHOCKER · 01-23-2013, 02:37 PM

"the new IS will eat German babies" lol..

secretariat · 01-23-2013, 02:38 PM

I just watched the M3 doumentary. What car were we discussing before that. I forget.

roastbeef · 01-23-2013, 02:47 PM

the video tells it all... boring.

a lexus is300 gently going around corners. a bmw video would be the cars screaming and jerking in and out of corners aggressively with squealing tires.

Russkey · 01-23-2013, 02:47 PM

I used to own IS 350 and I have to say I really liked the car inside and out. I also enjoy seeing them on the streets. This new design is just not my cup of tea and I would rather get a 3 series m sport!

MSPORTWORLD · 01-23-2013, 02:51 PM

The only thing this says to me is that BMW is number 1!

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HoundForHire Private 0 Rep 59 Posts Drives: 2011 VW GTI, Waiting for 2er Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Maryland iTrader: (0)	>overtake the 3 series >use the same NA carryover engines Pick one Lexus.
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