06-28-2012, 09:23 PM | #23 |
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He's referring to the fact that Hartge is a large tuner with an extensive history of BMW tuning and conversions. They are in the same league as Alpina and Dinan.
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So, will BMW still service your car under the factory warranty with this tune? The wording is not clear on that to me.
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What I say above does not mean I don't have respect for Burger Tuning, in fact, I may buy their Tune module as soon as they clear some of the issues the JB3 may be having on the F10, but I also see the value in large companies putting the capital to do research and provide service and warranties that smaller companies may never be able to provide.
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All else equal, I guess I still see Burger as the better value for a piggy back tune only, despite its "drag racing" focus. I appreciate wide adoption of the product and community of enthusiasts that share information. I think this is conducive to development that yields products that meet average BMW enthusiast demand. I don't doubt Hartge has a more sophisticated and stroried approach to their tuning and thats fine for those that want that type of tune and other modifications they offer. |
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You are lucky to have an option. For those of us with non 3 series nobody gives a shiet about us since they don't believe we are worth investing time and money on. Support for the 3 series is top priority and so are any issues that may arise. For everyone else...its just a waiting game for compatibility and support unfortunately.
This is where this Hartge piggyback could be a good option. Alan
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06-30-2012, 02:12 PM | #38 |
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Wow. They already have a piggy back for the F30, but not for the E9x??? That's a bunch of BS. Wonder why it works with the F30 N55 but not the E9x N55????
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Seriously... I dont understand
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AFAIK, there is no Dinan software currently available for the F30.
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The F30 has been out for all of about 6 months and Hartge has a piggy back tune for it, one that the owner can buy and install himself. And, if BMW updates the DME, no big deal. The tune wtill performs.
Conversely, your and my N55 (E92), which has been out for 2+ years (a lot longer than the F30), requires us to remove the ECU, mail to Hartge, let them tune it, then reinstall it once they ship it back. Then, if BMW updates the DME, we are screwed. My point is that our N55s don't have many options for tunes that we can apply. And it seems BS that Hartge built something for a car that was out for only 6 months when they didn't for a car that has been out for 2+ years...
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