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      10-22-2015, 09:42 AM   #991
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Sorry for bumping all the old threads today :newbie

I think that there are a number of contributing problems that cause this. These cars feel like they have lots of caster, making them prone to wobble, compounded by garbage tires that are hard to balance.

IMO Most of all its tires, I installed new (non-rft) tires on my car and had then road forced them ( by an INDY) it's gone 100% and I've had the problem since the day I bought the car now has 12K, been back multiple times to rebalance, etc.
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Sorry for bumping all the old threads today :newbie

I think that there are a number of contributing problems that cause this. These cars feel like they have lots of caster, making them prone to wobble, compounded by garbage tires that are hard to balance.

IMO Most of all its tires, I installed new (non-rft) tires on my car and had then road forced them ( by an INDY) it's gone 100% and I've had the problem since the day I bought the car now has 12K, been back multiple times to rebalance, etc.
Which RFTs did you have before you switched them out and what tires do you now have?
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      10-24-2015, 06:57 AM   #993
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Which RFTs did you have before you switched them out and what tires do you now have?
conti's went to 245/45/17 RE71 R's
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I have had bad luck with non-RFT Contis twice on my E39. That car was so sensitive to vibrations it was insane.

The tires were slightly out of round (oval shape) that only became evident with road force balancing. Had to replace two separate batches before it was finally fixed. Not trying to knock Contis or anything but what are the odds of two batches being bad. On a regular car that is not as sensitive (Camry) you may never notice a problem.
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I know this is a very old thread. But im looking for some help. Here is a video i recorded. I went through every page and no one posted one accurately showing the 'shimmy':



The dealership already rebalanced the tires(they were new when i bought the car. Car is 2014 335. Rims are 403M on RFTs.

Im bringing it back to the dealer to see if they can do something. I want to see if an alignment can fix it. Ive read the Toe can be off and cause this. Dont think its the steering rack as users have had it replaced with no fix.

Anyone got any other ideas on a fix?

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      06-21-2017, 08:59 PM   #996
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I'm assuming your dealer does a road force balance? I had an issue with vibration in steering wheel after getting new wheels but the shop only did a dynamic balance. Brought to BMW and it was good after a road force balance... I'm assuming all BMW dealerships use a road force balance machine but who knows may be worth asking to be sure
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I'm assuming your dealer does a road force balance? I had an issue with vibration in steering wheel after getting new wheels but the shop only did a dynamic balance. Brought to BMW and it was good after a road force balance... I'm assuming all BMW dealerships use a road force balance machine but who knows may be worth asking to be sure
Great idea, before anything ill ask which balance was done on the tires. Im going to push for a free alignment as the car was bought a month ago with 4 new tirez
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I'm assuming your dealer does a road force balance? I had an issue with vibration in steering wheel after getting new wheels but the shop only did a dynamic balance. Brought to BMW and it was good after a road force balance... I'm assuming all BMW dealerships use a road force balance machine but who knows may be worth asking to be sure
Great idea, before anything ill ask which balance was done on the tires. Im going to push for a free alignment as the car was bought a month ago with 4 new tirez
Yeah good idea. also ask to confirm there are no bends in wheels. Sometimes they won't say anything and they will just try and offset the bend with weights while they balance... That's probably easiest place to start. Good luck man!
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Yeah good idea. also ask to confirm there are no bends in wheels. Sometimes they won't say anything and they will just try and offset the bend with weights while they balance... That's probably easiest place to start. Good luck man!
Wouldnt that be the most expensive route for me though? I feel like even though I bought it a month ago they wouldnt give me a free wheel
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Yeah good idea. also ask to confirm there are no bends in wheels. Sometimes they won't say anything and they will just try and offset the bend with weights while they balance... That's probably easiest place to start. Good luck man!
Wouldnt that be the most expensive route for me though? I feel like even though I bought it a month ago they wouldnt give me a free wheel
There are Wheel shops that will repair/straighten for close to $100 per wheel. But regardless I think just asking to put that to rest and check it off the list as not being the cause is still useful.
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i've the same issue bought the car second hand, did several balances still exists, i think its not from tires because unbalanced tire will make the shake from 80-100 to 120-140km/h this one is permanent from 60km/h to ......

Stll cant be 100% sure because of extreme incompetence of tire specialist around NYC area, most shops are such a crap cant trust them

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I had this same issue with stock Bridgestone RFTs. Switched to non-RFT continental DWS, and just recently Discount tire's branded Nitto tires and the ride is pretty smooth. Just make sure that they road force balance the wheels and that they're not stacking on weights. Also, if your tire pressure is too high you'll have more road feel on the steering. Try inflating your tires to the recommended values in your door jamb when your tires are cold. Lastly, if you have modified your suspension make sure that you go through and re-torque everything while the suspension components are under load.
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I had this same issue with stock Bridgestone RFTs. Switched to non-RFT continental DWS, and just recently Discount tire's branded Nitto tires and the ride is pretty smooth. Just make sure that they road force balance the wheels and that they're not stacking on weights. Also, if your tire pressure is too high you'll have more road feel on the steering. Try inflating your tires to the recommended values in your door jamb when your tires are cold. Lastly, if you have modified your suspension make sure that you go through and re-torque everything while the suspension components are under load.
So you're issue disappeared after replacing the tires ? and road force balance them ? My other suggestion is the output shaft
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So you're issue disappeared after replacing the tires ? and road force balance them ? My other suggestion is the output shaft
For me tire/balance was the fix.
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For me tire/balance was the fix.
Same here.
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I'm having this issue with my 16 428i Gran Coupe. All 4 tires are RFB, alignment is good, wheels were inspected/tested for damage and they came back clean. The steering wheel just shimmies between 40-60 mph...it's driving me insane because it's inconsistent. Going back to the dealership on Monday to see what they have to say...you'd think this is something you wouldn't have to deal with on a $55,000 car...
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