[fate_f30]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Correct, below 20 PSI is safe

Thanks for clarifying

[Phil2thejay]

One of the major reasons why I like it is the easy of install/uninstall & the bluetooth app.

[TheKingStampede]

I know this is an old thread, but if anyone is still looking for a Dinan Sport tune, I'm selling mine for $199.

It works flawlessly. Only used for a short time. Looking to go with a flash-tune which is why I'm selling this one.

[BunkerJ]

Originally Posted by TheKingStampede

I know this is an old thread, but if anyone is still looking for a Dinan Sport tune, I'm selling mine for $199.

It works flawlessly. Only used for a short time. Looking to go with a flash-tune which is why I'm selling this one.

If you haven't already, make sure you post in the classifieds. Congrats on making the switch! I came from the same tuner and you're going to love flash tunes.

[TheKingStampede]

Originally Posted by BunkerJ

If you haven't already, make sure you post in the classifieds. Congrats on making the switch! I came from the same tuner and you're going to love flash tunes.

I did. Thanks!

From your profile, it looks like this is your tune? > "PTF Stage 2 91 AGG Tune"

Not familiar with it. HP gains? Cost? Company?

I'm still shopping around for tuning options, so any info would be great.

Thanks again.

[BunkerJ]

Originally Posted by TheKingStampede

I did. Thanks!

From your profile, it looks like this is your tune? > "PTF Stage 2 91 AGG Tune"

Not familiar with it. HP gains? Cost? Company?

I'm still shopping around for tuning options, so any info would be great.

Thanks again.

Sorry, I really should just change PTF to OTS lol. PTF is ProTuningFreaks, the creators of bootmod3(BM3).

All I can say is that I highly recommend BM3 for your car. There are other flash tunes out there like ActiveAutowerkes(AA), but none that are a genuine platform like BM3. MHD will be getting into the N20/N26s in the future, but who knows how long that will be and even then, MHD in my opinion is a little bare for their platform but it is cheaper.

As for BM3, it is truly amazing. For that price, you can do so much. You can unlock/lock your DME and flash to stock (For bringing it in for service), you can flash different OTS/custom maps in 30 seconds, have a dashboard to show all your engine values, read and clear diagnostic codes. You can also request custom tunes from the tuners registered in their tuning directory and they also have a tune editor in the program, so you can take it to your local tuner who doesn't have it and let them edit/build your tune! In the future, we will be seeing user configuration settings (such as change burble duration, aggressiveness, idle speed, cold start, TMAP, etc.) and possibly car coding! (All the stuff like turning off seatbelt chime, turning off the turn signals so they're not always on, folding mirrors, etc.)

As for the gains for stage 2 91 or 93OCT, expect your car to be around ~280whp or so. I keep forgetting that I owe you all a dyno before I jump up to the next tune. Overall, the flash tune will be much smoother and you'll get clean power.

[TheKingStampede]

Originally Posted by BunkerJ

Sorry, I really should just change PTF to OTS lol. PTF is ProTuningFreaks, the creators of bootmod3(BM3).

All I can say is that I highly recommend BM3 for your car. There are other flash tunes out there like ActiveAutowerkes(AA), but none that are a genuine platform like BM3. MHD will be getting into the N20/N26s in the future, but who knows how long that will be and even then, MHD in my opinion is a little bare for their platform but it is cheaper.

As for BM3, it is truly amazing. For that price, you can do so much. You can unlock/lock your DME and flash to stock (For bringing it in for service), you can flash different OTS/custom maps in 30 seconds, have a dashboard to show all your engine values, read and clear diagnostic codes. You can also request custom tunes from the tuners registered in their tuning directory and they also have a tune editor in the program, so you can take it to your local tuner who doesn't have it and let them edit/build your tune! In the future, we will be seeing user configuration settings (such as change burble duration, aggressiveness, idle speed, cold start, TMAP, etc.) and possibly car coding! (All the stuff like turning off seatbelt chime, turning off the turn signals so they're not always on, folding mirrors, etc.)

As for the gains for stage 2 91 or 93OCT, expect your car to be around ~280whp or so. I keep forgetting that I owe you all a dyno before I jump up to the next tune. Overall, the flash tune will be much smoother and you'll get clean power.

Just looked this up, and whoa, the BM3 is slick. Looks pretty straightforward to do and easy to swap out maps. I've flashed plenty of phones, but never my car. ha. This should be fun.

[BunkerJ]

Originally Posted by TheKingStampede

Just looked this up, and whoa, the BM3 is slick. Looks pretty straightforward to do and easy to swap out maps. I've flashed plenty of phones, but never my car. ha. This should be fun.

It's an easy process. Much, much easier than trying to root a phone and flash a custom firmware/OS. Initial unlock and flash is under 5 minutes.

[TheKingStampede]

Originally Posted by BunkerJ

It's an easy process. Much, much easier than trying to root a phone and flash a custom firmware/OS. Initial unlock and flash is under 5 minutes.

Thanks again for the info!

My data cable is on the way and looking forward to the upgrade.

[rjd_F30]

Originally Posted by BunkerJ

It's an easy process. Much, much easier than trying to root a phone and flash a custom firmware/OS. Initial unlock and flash is under 5 minutes.

Originally Posted by TheKingStampede

Thanks again for the info!

My data cable is on the way and looking forward to the upgrade.

wait, so now we can flash BM3 without unlocking the ECU? similarly to the AA Simon 3 process? I wasn't aware of that if that is the case.

[BunkerJ]

Originally Posted by rjdnyy224

wait, so now we can flash BM3 without unlocking the ECU? similarly to the AA Simon 3 process? I wasn't aware of that if that is the case.

No, no. It still unlocks the DME, just via the OBDII Port. I'm assuming AA is the same way. Only way to write the DME.

[rjd_F30]

Originally Posted by BunkerJ

No, no. It still unlocks the DME, just via the OBDII Port. I'm assuming AA is the same way. Only way to write the DME.

yah thats what I meant. so I can now go BM3 from home, no shipping out my ECU. interesting. where can I pick up this cable? I assume the tune file is emailed to me to be uploaded after I receive the cable.

[TheKingStampede]

Originally Posted by rjdnyy224

yah thats what I meant. so I can now go BM3 from home, no shipping out my ECU. interesting. where can I pick up this cable? I assume the tune file is emailed to me to be uploaded after I receive the cable.

You can pick one up for $20
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It's an ODB -> Ethernet Cable.

[BunkerJ]

Originally Posted by rjdnyy224

yah thats what I meant. so I can now go BM3 from home, no shipping out my ECU. interesting. where can I pick up this cable? I assume the tune file is emailed to me to be uploaded after I receive the cable.

Originally Posted by TheKingStampede

You can pick one up for $20
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It's an ODB -> Ethernet Cable.

Yup! Just any ENet cable works. There is nothing special about the cable. The software is what unlocks the ECU. "Special" cables are usually a joke or outdated.

[rjd_F30]

Originally Posted by TheKingStampede

You can pick one up for $20
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It's an ODB -> Ethernet Cable.

Originally Posted by BunkerJ

Yup! Just any ENet cable works. There is nothing special about the cable. The software is what unlocks the ECU. "Special" cables are usually a joke or outdated.

and I was about to pay active almost $200 for a Simon3 cable!? jeez BootMod3 it is. and so am I right about the file being emailed to me? I'd probably just get a stage one OTS map.

[BunkerJ]

Originally Posted by rjdnyy224

and I was about to pay active almost $200 for a Simon3 cable!? jeez BootMod3 it is. and so am I right about the file being emailed to me? I'd probably just get a stage one OTS map.

Well, no. I mean, you may pay $10 more for their logo'd cable, but you're paying for the software in that case. When you buy the cable, it looks like you get the ability to flash the car with maps. I was just saying that any regular cable will work. It's just an OBDII port connection married to an ethernet cable.

For bootmod3, your stock tune (when you first unlock the car, it reads it and writes it to a file in case you need to flash back to stock) is stored on your "My Maps" page. Same thing with your OTS. You'll select the OTS map and press "Get tune" and it'll appear under the "My Maps" page.

They're both great tuners it appears. The key difference aside from price and quality of the maps (I haven't observed many AA logs, so don't want to rate that) is the platform. AA seems like it's for people who want to flash a tune and not touch it again. BM3 is an entire platform, as I'm sure you've seen me go on about. Lol.

[rjd_F30]

Originally Posted by BunkerJ

Well, no. I mean, you may pay $10 more for their logo'd cable, but you're paying for the software in that case. When you buy the cable, it looks like you get the ability to flash the car with maps. I was just saying that any regular cable will work. It's just an OBDII port connection married to an ethernet cable.

For bootmod3, your stock tune (when you first unlock the car, it reads it and writes it to a file in case you need to flash back to stock) is stored on your "My Maps" page. Same thing with your OTS. You'll select the OTS map and press "Get tune" and it'll appear under the "My Maps" page.

They're both great tuners it appears. The key difference aside from price and quality of the maps (I haven't observed many AA logs, so don't want to rate that) is the platform. AA seems like it's for people who want to flash a tune and not touch it again. BM3 is an entire platform, as I'm sure you've seen me go on about. Lol.

yah I just finished reading through a bunch of the BM3 info threads, you're in there quite a bit lol. I always looked at BM3 as some super advanced mystical thing I would never get into, but now that I know, it seems a lot simpler than I initially thought. probably gonna go for it this summer. only 3 weeks away from summer break, which means I'm 3 weeks away from my first flash tune .
after all my reading I'm still not done with questions though lol last one (probably not but whatever): when you say "My Maps" page and things like, are you referring to a program that I download onto my computer or is it an online database?

also, AA does charge an extra $200 for the simon3 cable. $600 for the tune, $800 if you want the cable to do it yourself.

congrats on getting yet another person (me) on the BM3 train!

[BunkerJ]

Originally Posted by rjdnyy224

yah I just finished reading through a bunch of the BM3 info threads, you're in there quite a bit lol. I always looked at BM3 as some super advanced mystical thing I would never get into, but now that I know, it seems a lot simpler than I initially thought. probably gonna go for it this summer. only 3 weeks away from summer break, which means I'm 3 weeks away from my first flash tune .
after all my reading I'm still not done with questions though lol last one (probably not but whatever): when you say "My Maps" page and things like, are you referring to a program that I download onto my computer or is it an online database?

also, AA does charge an extra $200 for the simon3 cable. $600 for the tune, $800 if you want the cable to do it yourself.

congrats on getting yet another person (me) on the BM3 train!

Oh yeah, it's in their app. You have all your different tabs in there, even the editor. You can literally edit maps on your phone (Assuming you know how to tune)

And that's ridiculous! Curious if you actually need the cable or if ENet works. Regardless, for me BM3 is the better choice. Let's take their $200 cable out of the question and we have the same priced product. Only difference is that if you want the rest of the OTS maps, you pay $50 extra whenever you buy BM3. Even then, you don't have to pay $50 yet. AA, you pay that, flash and done. BM3 is that platform that I've explained AND you can transfer it to any motor they support, if you change cars. Makes the switch to the M, for me, much easier lol.

[TheKingStampede]

Originally Posted by rjdnyy224

yah I just finished reading through a bunch of the BM3 info threads, you're in there quite a bit lol. I always looked at BM3 as some super advanced mystical thing I would never get into, but now that I know, it seems a lot simpler than I initially thought. probably gonna go for it this summer. only 3 weeks away from summer break, which means I'm 3 weeks away from my first flash tune .
after all my reading I'm still not done with questions though lol last one (probably not but whatever): when you say "My Maps" page and things like, are you referring to a program that I download onto my computer or is it an online database?

also, AA does charge an extra $200 for the simon3 cable. $600 for the tune, $800 if you want the cable to do it yourself.

congrats on getting yet another person (me) on the BM3 train!

This is a great video explaining the setup process and how to use BM3:

[TheKingStampede]

Originally Posted by BunkerJ

Makes the switch to the M, for me, much easier lol.

[BunkerJ]

Originally Posted by TheKingStampede

This is a great video explaining the setup process and how to use BM3:

Love Bryan. Also a good text version for those who like that: https://bootmod3.atlassian.net/wiki/...+with+bootmod3

[Zanity]

Seriously, talk about thread jacking, people searched and came here to read on the dinan sport, not flash tune or BM3. Go start another thread next time, or PM each other.