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      02-16-2014, 08:44 PM   #1
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Lemon Law

Is there a lemon law in Canada?

I been having problems with my car since day 1. As soon as I got home the car had a check engine light. They tried fixing it two times and its still there. Is there a way for me to get another car?

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      02-16-2014, 09:28 PM   #2
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No lemon law. And bmw does is not part of CAMVAP. CAMVAP is basically Canada's lemon law. But bmw is not part of it. So you are stuck with the car.
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      02-17-2014, 06:06 PM   #3
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That's terrible Bat. Just keep making a stink at the dealership. Spending this kind of money on a car, you should be happy. Makes me a bit worried as I only have 400km on mine. No lights yet ...fingers crossed.
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      02-17-2014, 10:04 PM   #4
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That's terrible Bat. Just keep making a stink at the dealership. Spending this kind of money on a car, you should be happy. Makes me a bit worried as I only have 400km on mine. No lights yet ...fingers crossed.
I dont think you should worry, at 400km my light had came on 3 times

There is something wrong with my car they just need to find it, the problem is the cel is intermittent so its hard to detect...
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      02-18-2014, 02:22 PM   #5
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That's terrible Bat. Just keep making a stink at the dealership. Spending this kind of money on a car, you should be happy. Makes me a bit worried as I only have 400km on mine. No lights yet ...fingers crossed.
Thats the trouble with this forum, reading and then worrying about everything that can go wrong. Like a car wreck for me....don't want to look but i do. Wish i never had.
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      02-26-2014, 03:44 PM   #6
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Thats the trouble with this forum, reading and then worrying about everything that can go wrong. Like a car wreck for me....don't want to look but i do. Wish i never had.
I guess you could look at it two ways - remember its this forum that prepares you on what **could** happen to your car.

If anything, this forum was the reason I got a BMW in the first place
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      02-26-2014, 05:41 PM   #7
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hmmm whats your VIN bat? I just got 2014 335i m performance edition too in sapphire black and coral red. I haven't driven it much since there was a snow storm a couple days after taking it home. I hope its just one and not a batch =/
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Let's just hope BMW assists and fixes the OP's problems in good time. No new car owner, especially one that owns a BMW, should go through these issues.
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hmmm whats your VIN bat? I just got 2014 335i m performance edition too in sapphire black and coral red. I haven't driven it much since there was a snow storm a couple days after taking it home. I hope its just one and not a batch =/
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      02-27-2014, 09:11 PM   #10
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CEL disappeered before I got to go back to the dealer. I opened a case with BMW Canada like that if I get other problems they might be able to help me, but for now they can't do much...

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Let's just hope BMW assists and fixes the OP's problems in good time. No new car owner, especially one that owns a BMW, should go through these issues.
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No lemon law. And bmw does is not part of CAMVAP. CAMVAP is basically Canada's lemon law. But bmw is not part of it. So you are stuck with the car.
True, there are no 'lemon laws' on the federal level but there are consumer protections on the provincial level (just as in the US). I am surprised a seller of new cars in Canada can be exempt from CAMVAP but there are other avenues to take if dealer actions are not getting results. You can approach your provincial consumer protection authority for help as well:

http://www.consumerhandbook.ca/en/co...torial-offices

In Ontario, OMVIC is also available as a middleman between you and the dealer:

http://www.omvic.on.ca

A question you may have is why is the dealer not willing to replace the car, even one that has been as troublesome as you describe. My guess is that the dealer will be on the hook for a new vehicle and the manufacturer is not willing to help out, at least until everything else has been tried. And this is the key with issue. If the car is inoperable, or operates erratically that's a problem. If there is a light on the dashboard, that may not be considered a problem serious enough that either the government or OMVIC will intervene.

To be honest, a CEL is typically a warning about something going wrong with the fuel-air mixture. So, either the air intake or the exhaust has a problem. Even a minor one (like a small leak) will trigger the warning. Have you tried another dealer? It may not be a faulty computer but one that's telling you there is indeed a problem. Reprogramming it will take time and you end up with a computer that will detect the same problem.
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I guess you could look at it two ways - remember its this forum that prepares you on what **could** happen to your car.

If anything, this forum was the reason I got a BMW in the first place
....so we can pre-worry?
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      03-20-2014, 10:40 AM   #13
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....so we can pre-worry?
I guess so..but also know that maybe there is a solution in case it happens ?

So in that sense you shouldn't pre-worry too much
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      03-20-2014, 11:03 AM   #14
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I guess so..but also know that maybe there is a solution in case it happens ?

So in that sense you shouldn't pre-worry too much
I know what you are trying to say but there is always a solution. Too many panicky and problem threads here. Make it look like these are brutal cars. Way more than any other forum i have been on. Mine was brutal in the end. I got rid of it early as i was worried about all the shi& that was going to happen. 12 of 31 threads on here are about complaints/problems. 3 of 40 on Audi S4. Just sayin.......

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      03-20-2014, 04:57 PM   #15
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Please see my other thread and poll

http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=961066
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      03-22-2014, 12:40 AM   #16
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It may seem frusterating but try to work with your dealer. There is no doubt that this should not happen but thats what warranty is for. With a couple of CELs and trips to the dealer its not unreasonable at this point. However, if it escalates i would think your dealer will try to make it right. I ve seen this before and dealers will eventually swap to a new unit for their good clients. The trick is to be nice but also dont take any excuses.

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      04-01-2014, 07:10 AM   #17
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It may seem frusterating but try to work with your dealer. There is no doubt that this should not happen but thats what warranty is for. With a couple of CELs and trips to the dealer its not unreasonable at this point. However, if it escalates i would think your dealer will try to make it right. I ve seen this before and dealers will eventually swap to a new unit for their good clients. The trick is to be nice but also dont take any excuses.

good luck
Cel is back on for the fourth time!
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      04-01-2014, 01:58 PM   #18
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Vin: F588194

Please see my other thread and poll

http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=961066
Mine is 88234. Later production than both of yours... hopefully mine is decent. But from what I've read before, these forums just turn you into a worry wart. Everyone just enjoy the ride and come on if you got problems. Then worry haha.
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