[white2abbit]

Maybe I'm just really tired, but I can't seem to find any reviews of the F30 M-Sport (328i or 335i) – written or videos.

Has anyone seen anything?

[E36toF30]

There probably won't be any reviews on the M Sport specifically, since it doesn't offer any performance advantage or additional features compared to a sport line model. No reason for them to review it again really.

[white2abbit]

Originally Posted by E36toF30

There probably won't be any reviews on the M Sport specifically, since it doesn't offer any performance advantage or additional features compared to a sport line model. No reason for them to review it again really.

Oh – I thought it had different suspension and a few other performance things. Thanks!

[E36toF30]

Nope. Compared to a sport line model, it's all just cosmetic stuff. Well, other than the steering wheel -- that's more than cosmetic.

[gerbs]

Originally Posted by E36toF30

Nope. Compared to a sport line model, it's all just cosmetic stuff. Well, other than the steering wheel -- that's more than cosmetic.

And shift knob.

[white2abbit]

Originally Posted by E36toF30

Nope. Compared to a sport line model, it's all just cosmetic stuff. Well, other than the steering wheel -- that's more than cosmetic.

@E36toF30 Thanks. I sent you a PM

@Gerbs Right! I think I have a very similar knob in my E36.

[chrisny]

Originally Posted by gerbs

And shift knob.

Pretty sure the shift knob doesn't come with it either, comes with sport auto, which you can get with or without M sport.

[gerbs]

Originally Posted by chrisny

Pretty sure the shift knob doesn't come with it either, comes with sport auto, which you can get with or without M sport.

M Sport shift knob:




Basically (if not) the ZHP shift knob:

[DerekS]

Originally Posted by E36toF30

Nope. Compared to a sport line model, it's all just cosmetic stuff. Well, other than the steering wheel -- that's more than cosmetic.

Not quite correct. Unlike a Sportline model that is equipped with non-staggered 18" wheels/tires (and for the Canadian market, all season tires !!!), the M Sport comes standard with 18" staggered summer performance tires. IMO, the 335i needs the wider rear tires offered by the M Sport to handle the engine's torque.

In the US, Adaptive M suspension is available as a stand alone option. Not so in Canada, where this feature is only available as a $500 add-on to the M Sport package.

So for Canadian F30-335i purchasers, if they want the advantages of staggered summer performance wheels/tires (without going to optional 19" wheels/tires for $1500) and the Adaptive M Suspension, the M Sport is the solution.

BMW took a step backwards by deleting the formerly standard E90-335i Sport package set-up of staggered wheels with summer performance tires and substituting non-staggered wheels with all seasons for the F30 Sportline.

[jtuds]

Originally Posted by white2abbit

Oh – I thought it had different suspension and a few other performance things. Thanks!

Yeah it does, but it's not that much different than someone reviewing a base 335i then a 335i with sport suspension and adaptive steering. You don't really get reviews for the same car with different option packages, and the M sport package is just an option package.

[E36toF30]

Originally Posted by DerekS

Not quite correct. Unlike a Sportline model that is equipped with non-staggered 18" wheels/tires (and for the Canadian market, all season tires !!!), the M Sport comes standard with 18" staggered summer performance tires. IMO, the 335i needs the wider rear tires offered by the M Sport to handle the engine's torque.

In the US, Adaptive M suspension is available as a stand alone option. Not so in Canada, where this feature is only available as a $500 add-on to the M Sport package.

So for Canadian F30-335i purchasers, if they want the advantages of staggered summer performance wheels/tires (without going to optional 19" wheels/tires for $1500) and the Adaptive M Suspension, the M Sport is the solution.

BMW took a step backwards by deleting the formerly standard E90-335i Sport package set-up of staggered wheels with summer performance tires and substituting non-staggered wheels with all seasons for the F30 Sportline.

You're right, I did forget about the staggered wheels and tires (and the shift knob). However, according to the U.S. 2013 ordering guide, you can get summer performance tires on any line, not just the M Sport (although all seasons are standard except on the Sport and M Sport). That said, I believe most of the cars that professional reviewers got did have the all season tires, so in that sense it might be nice to see a review of an M Sport line with the summer tires.

[shutterlife]

Don't forget the M steering wheel

[okolisr]

What puzzles me is...

Where are the F30 xDrive Reviews?

This xDrive is supposed to be a new lighter-weight system. That's something worth reviewing.

[snowghost]

Originally Posted by shutterlife

Don't forget the M steering wheel

Is it shifter the M lighted one? On the BMW website, (Track my BMW), it lists adaptive suspension as part of the M-sport package I ordered.

I had thought it a separate option.

[adelphi_sky]

Originally Posted by snowghost

Is it shifter the M lighted one? On the BMW website, (Track my BMW), it lists adaptive suspension as part of the M-sport package I ordered.

I had thought it a separate option.

Mine has it too. Though I didn't order it. It also has summer performance tires which I didn't order. I'm guessing the website is just giving you a general idea of what you ordered. My CA assured me that what I ordered with him is correct. Now, if I all of a sudden get summer tires with adaptive suspension and trans, hey, I'm not going to argue because I didn't pay for them. lol

[SPACEMANRICK]

Originally Posted by okolisr

What puzzles me is...

Where are the F30 xDrive Reviews?

This xDrive is supposed to be a new lighter-weight system. That's something worth reviewing.

Where did you hear that the F30 Xdrive system was a new lighter system? I have not heard that or read that anywhere....The 335xi and 328xi only started production in July 2012 so dealers should be getting the first batch any day now.

[David328M-Sport]

Originally Posted by SPACEMANRICK

The 335xi and 328xi only started production in July 2012 so dealers should be getting the first batch any day now.

Yet my M-Sport is still fresh air. Hasn't even started to be built yet. GRRRRR.

[okolisr]

Originally Posted by SPACEMANRICK

The 335xi and 328xi only started production in July 2012 so dealers should be getting the first batch any day now.

I just sat in a 2013 328i xDrive M-Sport in Estoril Blue for sale on my dealer's lot, so the xDrives (and M Sports) are definitely here.

There was such big excitement about testing the RWD F30s -- you would think that at least one car magazine would be interested in testing the xDrive too. It IS a significantly different car.

If BMW's brochures are correct, the new xDrive system weighs significantly less. If you crunch the numbers, an E90 335i xDrive weighs 221 lbs more than the RWD version, while an F30 xDrive 335i weighs just 154 lbs more than the RWD version.

[SPACEMANRICK]

Originally Posted by okolisr

I just sat in a 2013 328i xDrive M-Sport in Estoril Blue for sale on my dealer's lot, so the xDrives (and M Sports) are definitely here.

There was such big excitement about testing the RWD F30s -- you would think that at least one car magazine would be interested in testing the xDrive too. It IS a significantly different car.

If BMW's brochures are correct, the new xDrive system weighs significantly less. If you crunch the numbers, an E90 335i xDrive weighs 221 lbs more than the RWD version, while an F30 xDrive 335i weighs just 154 lbs more than the RWD version.

Great to hear the Xdrives are finally arriving here in North America.....my 335xi should be here in October (replacing my 2008 335xi)!

I have not heard anything about any changes in the Xdrive system so I anxiously await any new news on that if there are any changes....

[RPM90]

I think the car mags will take opportunity to do some more testing of the F30, but this time I'll bet BMW will send 335i Msports.

During the F30 intro it was nearly all 328i sport lines.
Now, it's time to get more testing of the 335i's and Msport is just the way to do it.

Yes, Msport is mainly a cosmetics pkg, but the staggered 18 and 19" wheels/tires should be actual summer performance tires.
Hopefully we'll get reviews that can show us if there is any performance difference with the sportier tires.

Also, I'm hoping to read more about the sport AT and MT 335i's.
I'm sure there will be an S4 vs 335i Msport rematch.

[Sp82]

can anyone verify if the shift knob in the 6MT is lighted ??

[bobert]

Originally Posted by vikz

can anyone verify if the shift knob in the 6MT is lighted ??

It's not.