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      08-16-2012, 02:22 AM   #23
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It cost 63000 USD for a 328i sport line here in Hong Kong, thats with 9664 USD environmental friendly vehicle tax deduction already.=) thats M3 price in the states....
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      08-16-2012, 02:24 AM   #24
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It cost more than 168,000USD for a E92 M3 here in hong kong. yea.... porsche territory.

for a 991carrera S here cost you about 257,000 USD.
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      08-16-2012, 04:19 AM   #25
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Just over $91k (including tax) in China for the new 328i sports line, which has no parking assistance, no HUD and 17' tires.
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      08-16-2012, 08:22 AM   #26
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Pricing in Asia is just ridiculous!

We pay around $60000 to $70000 for a 335i depending on the config which is still more than our US friends.
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      08-16-2012, 09:19 AM   #27
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Just over $91k (including tax) in China for the new 328i sports line, which has no parking assistance, no HUD and 17' tires.
It's those seventeen-foot tires that made it so expensive. That, and the ladder you need to climb in and out. Nice view, though, from the driver's seat.
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      08-16-2012, 10:11 AM   #28
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In Turkey Base 320d costs 51000 Euros. By Base i mean no xenons no cruise control , cloth seats. A 320d with xenon, bluetooth, leather seats, cruise control, sunroof can go up to 70000 euros. You guys in US are so lucky M package costs 7500 euros.
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      08-16-2012, 10:18 AM   #29
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$60K all in Canada.. After really good discount..
After a really good discount and before taxes and fees. Roughly $67000-70000 after all the government bullshit.
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      08-16-2012, 10:30 AM   #30
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yes and in the US we get to enjoy these lower prices becasue US is the biggest importer
Definitely one of the biggest reasons. Others are:

-Strength of USD
-Incredibly competitive automotive market
-Extremely price sensitive customer base
-Incredibly strong secondary market for finance/lease products- thank you wall street
-Low interest rates
-Very, very low taxes
-Low fuel prices

The bad news for us US customers and BMW is that a lot of these dynamics could soon change quite a bit. Not looking forward to $100k 3s and $150k 5s.
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      08-16-2012, 10:46 AM   #31
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I called BMW in Jamaica and they said the base 335i starts at $108,000 US
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      08-16-2012, 11:10 AM   #32
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I called BMW in Jamaica and they said the base 335i starts at $108,000 US
Yeah but that includes 6 kilos of weed in the trunk.
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      08-16-2012, 01:27 PM   #33
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getting a significant amount off will not affect resale value. Its not like you can walk in and ask for $6k off and they say OK! Its a lot of work and most buyers are not willing to go through that stress. Its easier with ED because whatever the dealer makes its pure profit and does not affect their allotment. You also have to factor those people who walk into to the dealer and take a fully loaded car at sticker, I work with a few of them.
Im not going to debate this its not really worth it because neither can prove it. I just go off my experiences buying 10+ new (or like-new cars) in the last 11 years. The more the car is discounted up front the lower the resale values tend to be. This is not always the case if the car becomes limited for some reason or if the deal was special circumstances. There was a time when you were lucky to get a thousand or two off a BMW, just seems to me those days are over. I wonder if people outside the US are getting 10-15% off?
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Im not going to debate this its not really worth it because neither can prove it. I just go off my experiences buying 10+ new (or like-new cars) in the last 11 years. The more the car is discounted up front the lower the resale values tend to be. This is not always the case if the car becomes limited for some reason or if the deal was special circumstances. There was a time when you were lucky to get a thousand or two off a BMW, just seems to me those days are over. I wonder if people outside the US are getting 10-15% off?
I can understand your point. This is why leasing a BMW is such a good route. BMW artificially keeps the values higher than the market may set them. sometimes BMW gets killed, other times they don't. In recent years, due to the economy, the residuals have been a little high. If the economy goes gangbusters anytime soon, then that may change.
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      08-16-2012, 01:58 PM   #35
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I wonder if people outside the US are getting 10-15% off?
Well we in SA dont work with the over invoice system you guys have, we negotiate straight discounts with the dealership. On an F30 320i you would be able to get about $3781 discount. Roughly 8.5% to answer you


My 320i Msport with 18" wheels, HK sound, xenons and PDC is costing me $47805 after discount.
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I think majority of buyers do pay sticker so it all balances out.
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Yeah but that includes 6 kilos of weed in the trunk.
That's not a bad deal lol.
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Well appointed 328i xDrive in Canada - around $55000 cnd msrp
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      08-16-2012, 11:09 PM   #39
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My 328i in Australia is about AU$80K with the spec thats in my signature. As $US and $AU is on parity this is about US$80K. So I am envious when I see what my US brethren pay for the same car.
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My 328i in Australia is about AU$80K with the spec thats in my signature. As $US and $AU is on parity this is about US$80K. So I am envious when I see what my US brethren pay for the same car.
yea, even if you include CA sales tax you're getting an optioned, albeit not loaded, M3 for the price you pay. pretty crazy.
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      08-16-2012, 11:34 PM   #41
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It takes you US$100k to drive a F30 Base 328i in Vietnam.
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      08-17-2012, 05:33 AM   #42
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Pricing in Asia is just ridiculous!
It's all due to taxes. The only exception is Japan where the taxes are low yet prices are high.
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      08-17-2012, 09:02 AM   #43
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I'm from Singapore and the 200,000 that OP mentioned was probably in a post of mine he saw.

When I ordered my 328i with the options stated in my signature, there was a bit of a discount so mine cost just a bit over S$220,000, which is currently ~US$176,000. The prices have gone up to S$240,000 (US$191,500), because there's no longer a discount and the COE (see below) has gone up by a few thousand.

The 335i is another S$40,000, so that's S$280,000 - US$223,500.

Yep, taxes are nuts in Singapore...so here's an approximately breakdown of the cost of my car:

(a) my car's "base" cost - the Open Market Value (OMV) - is almost S$45,000 (US$36,000)

(b) then there's a "tax" called the Certificate of Entitlement ("COE" - it's just a piece of paper permitting us to buy a new car) which fluctuates according to supply & demand; mine was $85,000 - US$68,000, but it's currently in the ballpark of S$95,000 (US$74,500)

(b) add Customs duty of 20% + Additional Registration Fee (ARF) of 100% of the car's OMV - S$54,000 ($43,000)

(c) add Goods & Services tax - 7% of Customs duty & OMV - $3,800 (US$3,000)

(d) and finally, BMW's distributor's margin - in the region of S$30-50,000 (mine was discounted so they didn't make such a huge margin) - US$24,000-40,000.

Looking at the prices in other countries, I know I'm paying a ridiculous amount....do I win the pity party??

Anyway, that's the price for driving such a beautiful car in Singapore.
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      08-17-2012, 09:26 AM   #44
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Anyway, that's the price for driving such a beautiful car in Singapore.
I think you win hands down...its not even close. sorry
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