[TylerMcCraw]

So here I am, about to buy new tires and I just cant make a decision.. So I need you guys to help me choose. I have narrowed it down to Hankook Ventus V12 evo2 and Michelin Pilot Supersport tires. I will be running a 245 40 18 on the oem sport line wheels style 397 (18x8) whitch I have powdercoated gloss black. The Hankooks are 570$ for a set and the Michelin's are 770$ a set. I mainly drive very spiritedly (taking corners at the limit, accelerating hard), I dont do many track days but I do go on road rally's and carve canyons. I drive a lot so it's good that these tires are not expensive because I'll probably be replacing them in a year. Thanks for the feedback guys!!

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....omCompare1=yes

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....omCompare1=yes

[alohasurftoad]

i'd say just fork out for the michelin PSS. once you've bought it you're not going to remember the cost difference. when you are daily, spirited, or track driving you'll be on the best.

costco has'em for a good price ^^

[tboooe]

I've used the Hankooks on both my Audi S5 and BMW F36. There is no doubt the PSS are great tires. To me, for daily driving with some spirited runs in between the Hankooks are more than adequate. For how I drive on the road and my driving ability the PSS are simply too much tire.

[eluded]

PSS

[S4Dude]

I ran several sets of the Hanooks on my A4. I really liked them for the price but they got loud in a relatively short period of time. I run PSS on my S4 and I think they're superior in every way. But they are more expensive. If you can afford it, go PSS. They're really great tires.

[kd0t]

I have V12 evo2 on my 235i while my brother has PSS. Nothing bad to say about the hankooks, but if you have the extra cash. Get the PSS! They hook instantly

[goj]

There is no need to get PSS. Unless you tracking your car. Ha looks or the Continetal Extreme contact DW are great for even the most aggressive street driving

[G30 B58]

Originally Posted by goj

There is no need to get PSS. Unless you tracking your car. Ha looks or the Continetal Extreme contact DW are great for even the most aggressive street driving

Agreed. Except for full throttle acceleration, you're never going to intentionally use the full grip of the PSS.

Your obv looking to save some coin here otherwise you probably wouldnt be cross-shopping. Go ahead, save the $$$.

[cncmastr]

Originally Posted by goj

There is no need to get PSS. Unless you tracking your car. Ha looks or the Continetal Extreme contact DW are great for even the most aggressive street driving

Yea or if you also don't care to stop shorter in an emergency situation in both wet and dry conditions... What's a few feet anyway?

[rolltidef32]

How many threads with this topic will pop up? It's like every 2-3 months now...



Really doesn't matter guys, both are good tires just get what you feel like spending.

[goj]

Originally Posted by cncmastr

Yea or if you also don't care to stop shorter in an emergency situation in both wet and dry conditions... What's a few feet anyway?

Stopping distance differences will be minimal in almost every braking event. Even some panic stops. You need to stand on the breaks going 70-0 to see a "few feet" difference between PSS and other good tired like the Continentals I mentioned.

[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

If you want the best, buy the PSS.
If you want to comprise noise, ride, and handling for a lower cost there are plenty of alternatives.
I love my PSS! It's a sad day when I pull them off for the winter.

[JamRWS6]

Originally Posted by goj

Stopping distance differences will be minimal in almost every braking event. Even some panic stops. You need to stand on the breaks going 70-0 to see a "few feet" difference between PSS and other good tired like the Continentals I mentioned.

Isn't that the point? Also you're going to see the biggest difference with PSS while turning the steering wheel, not with the right or left pedal. They're worth every penny.

[RoundelM3]

I've been using Continental Extreme Contact DW for the past several years. Very good wear rating, great ride and handling, and moderately priced. Got these on both of our BMWs now.

[S4Dude]

Originally Posted by roundel335

I've been using Continental Extreme Contact DW for the past several years. Very good wear rating, great ride and handling, and moderately priced. Got these on both of our BMWs now.

Audi delivers S4's with Conti's. I honestly can't remember which one however. What I can say is that the PSS were a significant improvement over my OEM tires. Better grip early, far less noise and dare I say superior handling although admittedly, that's hard to quantify. The car just felt better immediately. I only ran the Conti's about 20,000 miles before I hated the noise.

There are lots of good options in middle, I thought the Hankooks I ran for years were a good value for the money but the PSS are just better in my experience.

[RoundelM3]

Originally Posted by S4Dude

Audi delivers S4's with Conti's. I honestly can't remember which one however. What I can say is that the PSS were a significant improvement over my OEM tires. Better grip early, far less noise and dare I say superior handling although admittedly, that's hard to quantify. The car just felt better immediately. I only ran the Conti's about 20,000 miles before I hated the noise.

There are lots of good options in middle, I thought the Hankooks I ran for years were a good value for the money but the PSS are just better in my experience.

Conti Extreme Contact DW tires aren't OEM...I've had less-than-satisfactory Contis as OEM on other cars. The DWs have a much better treadwear rating than most of the summer performance tires and were moderately priced compared to Michelin, Pirelli, etc. No question they're the top performers, but I'm not looking for all-out performance. There's also an all-season version of them (DWS-Dry, Wet, Snow) for winter use/colder climates.

[Polo08816]

Originally Posted by alohasurftoad

i'd say just fork out for the michelin PSS. once you've bought it you're not going to remember the cost difference. when you are daily, spirited, or track driving you'll be on the best.

costco has'em for a good price ^^

Will Costco mount and balance a non-RFT tire for a car that came with stock RFTs?

[goj]

Originally Posted by Polo08816

Will Costco mount and balance a non-RFT tire for a car that came with stock RFTs?

Of course they will. They're selling you tires

[Polo08816]

Originally Posted by goj

Of course they will. They're selling you tires

They say otherwise:

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=268036

https://customerservice.costco.com/s...fromQuery=tire

Also, they probably won't let you install a size outside of what is a stock option.

Guess that means I won't be able to put on 255/40/18 all around.

[335BOY]

Originally Posted by rolltidef32

How many threads with this topic will pop up? It's like every 2-3 months now...



Really doesn't matter guys, both are good tires just get what you feel like spending.

Exactly my opinion too. PSS didnt win the last tire test I read. Think it was third. Guys here worship them though.

[radm]

Originally Posted by Polo08816

Will Costco mount and balance a non-RFT tire for a car that came with stock RFTs?

They didn't want to on my E95 335 a couple years ago. They should be willing to do it now when I got the non runflats. Since the only difference is the repair kit, they may be more flexible for others, too - or possibly they won't sell tires for me either when I need new ones.

[goj]

Originally Posted by Polo08816

They say otherwise:

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=268036

https://customerservice.costco.com/s...fromQuery=tire

Also, they probably won't let you install a size outside of what is a stock option.

Guess that means I won't be able to put on 255/40/18 all around.

It must depend on the Costco. Never had any issues replacing run flats with normal tires there.