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      02-14-2016, 10:24 PM   #1
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2015 F30 - Sulev ?

Hi All,

I own a 2015 BMW 328I ...purchased just 6-7 months ago .Today i received a message saying that my car needs to be serviced but the message says its a 2015 328I SULEV...I am a bit surprised by this message because i was under the assumption that my car is not SULEV.

Correct me if I am wrong here .
  1. SULEV comes with less power (almost 50HP )less
  2. Are all 2015 F30 - 328i's SULEV's ?
  3. If above is not true - how do one get a SULEV without requesting it ?
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      02-14-2016, 11:19 PM   #2
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All 2016 328 automatics are all sulev in California. (n26 engine). Only way to get a non sulev (n20 engine) is to order a manual.

Other states do this too but I can only speak for Ca. And it's not 50hp. I've driven both and can't tell the difference. I believe it's around 25 and it's only above 6k rpm so in every day driving the cars are identical
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      02-15-2016, 11:08 AM   #3
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pop your hood and look at the sticker.
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      02-15-2016, 11:31 AM   #4
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Wow I didn't realize it was less powerful. BMW still advertises it the same 240hp right?
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      02-15-2016, 11:45 AM   #5
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pop your hood and look at the sticker.
Thanks ..I just checked it and it is ULEV II PC. Which means its not a SULEV

Btw. I am in ATLANTA , Georgia
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      02-15-2016, 12:03 PM   #6
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N26/N20 have identical hp/trq.
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      02-15-2016, 12:04 PM   #7
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It doesn't have 50 less hp, lmao.
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50 HP? Haha what a joke. It's just a more restrictive cat which will be swapped out with a catless downpipe by most of us anyways.
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lol its still 240hp... sulev or not
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I did some internet searching before I purchased my 2015 non sulev f30. If what dudes said is true, then a sulev probably feels like less horsepower, that said, numberwise they are very same as the non sulev ones.
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50 HP? Haha what a joke. It's just a more restrictive cat which will be swapped out with a catless downpipe by most of us anyways.
While it's not uncommon to see people putting cat-less down pipes on their car on this forum, I must mention it is still a far cry to say most of us swap out the cat for a straight pipe
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While it's not uncommon to see people putting cat-less down pipes on their car on this forum, I must mention it is still a far cry to say most of us swap out the cat for a straight pipe
Do SULEV vehicles come with its warranty the 15yr/150k miles?
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Correct me if I am wrong here .
  1. SULEV comes with less power (almost 50HP )less
I am correcting you--that is wrong. Only way to get 50HP less is to get a 320.
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My wife's new 2016 228i convertible is a SULEV (N26) - says so on the window sticker and elsewhere. Absolutely ZERO difference in engine output from the N20, and doesn't feel the least bit underpowered (although it's pretty mild compared to my 2013 335i with MPPK/MPE).
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While it's not uncommon to see people putting cat-less down pipes on their car on this forum, I must mention it is still a far cry to say most of us swap out the cat for a straight pipe
Do SULEV vehicles come with its warranty the 15yr/150k miles?
I have never heard of this warranty. Seems way too long to me. But I am not sure
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While it's not uncommon to see people putting cat-less down pipes on their car on this forum, I must mention it is still a far cry to say most of us swap out the cat for a straight pipe
+1. If I wanted to do this, that and the other thing to get decent performance I'd have bought a Civic.
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Do SULEV vehicles come with its warranty the 15yr/150k miles?
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I have never heard of this warranty. Seems way too long to me. But I am not sure
That's emissions control only for PZEV

http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/warranty.pdf
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