403M vs 405M

JonoNZ · 04-01-2013, 01:24 AM

I'm seriously considering swapping my 19" 403M for the 20" 405M wheels. Not all cars suit the 405M as they contain a bit of black/dark grey. I think they'll suit my EB2 with M Performance car -- mainly due to the black accents (grills, M Performance side sills with M Performance decals).

I'm not worried about the ride as I find the 19" already very soft and compliant - so firmer ride with less rubber would probably be closer to my liking, even with my adaptive M Sport suspension.

Here's my car now with the 19" 403M and a BMW show car with 20" 405M.

Thoughts?

JonoNZ · 04-01-2013, 01:28 AM

A few more pics of the 405M on EB2 with M Performance (not my car)...

TheInsurgent · 04-01-2013, 01:39 AM

IMO ... the 403's look great. But it sounds like you have already sold yourself on the 405's.

From comparing the show car to your's, it looks as if it's the only thing missing to almost be an exact match.

Get ready for guys to ask how much to ship to from New Zeland to New Jersey.

TheInsurgent · 04-01-2013, 01:43 AM

Those big 'ol brakes look good inside those wheels on the second set of photos. It would be tough to get the 20's on without 'em after seeing those photos.

Agamemnon · 04-01-2013, 01:59 AM

Have you thought about getting a set of HRE or Morr wheels. Both manufacture wheels that are forged and light and look sensational. You are spending a lot of money anyway so you should consider all of the options out there.

fad · 04-01-2013, 03:23 AM

Or BBS LM's

dcg71 · 04-01-2013, 05:53 AM

I went with 405Ms, although seriously considered 403Ms at one stage. No issues with ride harshness, they're still quite compliant, akin to 19's on the E9x which I was pretty familiar with anyway. 405Ms have better proportions for the car if you ask me (more so with the M performance body kit and the added visual "tallness" of the car). Clearly they're also a more aggressive design (and the Orbit Grey looks great IMO). 403Ms on the other hand are a bit more understated, which is not such a bad thing, and I guess ride slightly softer.

Jackson743 · 04-01-2013, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Agamemnon

Have you thought about getting a set of HRE or Morr wheels. Both manufacture wheels that are forged and light and look sensational. You are spending a lot of money anyway so you should consider all of the options out there.

+1

And, the 405's are curiously narrow and expensive. The Morrs and HRE's are the best looking wheels in this forum.

DangerousTacos · 04-01-2013, 01:40 PM

I like the 20s, but potholes would destroy them where I live. They're rather expensive in my opinion too, I'd rather get a nice set of forged wheels for the same cost.

Jasun · 10-06-2013, 10:04 AM

Love the Estoril blue color with the 405's. I went with them on my jet black 328i as well and very glad I did. Look great with dark windows, carbon fiber spoiler and black kidney grills.

izzyM2 · 10-06-2013, 12:41 PM

I vote for 403M. I just switched mine form the 400M to 403M in black.

shivaswrath · 10-06-2013, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by izzyM3

I vote for 403M. I just switched mine form the 400M to 403M in black.

Car looked better with the 400Ms...

Sedan_Clan · 10-06-2013, 10:45 PM

I think the 403M's are a really nice looking wheel. I wish that BMW had just made them wider and/or in a 20" variant.

Sedan_Clan · 10-06-2013, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by shivaswrath

Car looked better with the 400Ms...

Bollocks! The black 403M's are hard to accurately capture in photos. They look great!

Bernard335 · 10-07-2013, 12:19 PM

I also replaced my 403, but went with the 433 wheel off the M6 GC

lordfink · 10-24-2013, 06:08 PM

Bumping this thread rather than starting a new one.

Was hoping someone who had made the switch to 405m wheels could share their thoughts.

Any issues with turning radius or rubbing when going over humps/ potholes? Do the wheels feel like they're too large for the car?

Any input in much appreciated.

.BMW. · 10-25-2013, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by lordfink

Bumping this thread rather than starting a new one.

Was hoping someone who had made the switch to 405m wheels could share their thoughts.

Any issues with turning radius or rubbing when going over humps/ potholes? Do the wheels feel like they're too large for the car?

Any input in much appreciated.

The width and overall diameter of the 19" tires on M403 and the 20" tires on M405 is the same.

The change to M405 will not influence turning radius or cause rubbing!

lordfink · 10-25-2013, 02:18 AM

Ah ok... Thanks for that. I am still on the stock wheels that came with my F30. So just looking to get a feel of how people are liking their 405M wheels.

AMJAM · 10-25-2013, 02:32 AM

Personally I think they are completely over priced and for the money there are better looking aftermarket wheels out there

Vitoco · 10-25-2013, 03:59 AM

Bare in mind the 405´s weigh significantly less than the 403´s, I think its something like 10-11 kg vs. 13-14 kg. Now THAT will make a big change not only to performance but comfort aswell. My 20" wheels that weigh ~11.5 kg made a huge difference vs the 403M´s I had, but I´m sure the Michelin PSS add to the comfort factor.

dcg71 · 10-25-2013, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AMJAM

Personally I think they are completely over priced and for the money there are better looking aftermarket wheels out there

Yeah, and you could also buy a 430kW/740Nm HSV GTS for about the same price as your 328i. A lot of people would argue that your car is overpriced.

At least the 405Ms are a legitimate performance upgrade. I.e. they're forged and lightweight. I paid about $4200 for mine with new Pirelli p-zero run flats. If you account for the cost of the tyres, the wheels roughly set me back about $2300. Not overpriced for a set of forged wheels I think.

M-terkait · 10-25-2013, 07:06 PM

at my dealer they are pricing each 405M for 378KD which is almost 1300$ Q_Q

04-01-2013, 01:24 AM	#1
JonoNZ Captain 677 Rep 745 Posts Drives: BMW iX M60, Macan Turbo Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Auckland, New Zealand iTrader: (0)	403M vs 405M I'm seriously considering swapping my 19" 403M for the 20" 405M wheels. Not all cars suit the 405M as they contain a bit of black/dark grey. I think they'll suit my EB2 with M Performance car -- mainly due to the black accents (grills, M Performance side sills with M Performance decals). I'm not worried about the ride as I find the 19" already very soft and compliant - so firmer ride with less rubber would probably be closer to my liking, even with my adaptive M Sport suspension. Here's my car now with the 19" 403M and a BMW show car with 20" 405M. Thoughts? Attached Images __________________ BMW iX M60, Storm Bay with XPEL Stealth PPF, Exterior Line Titan Bronze, 1EW 22" 1023 Wheels, Amido Leather, Comfort Package, Interior Camera, Clear&Bold, Sun Protection Glazing, B&W Diamond Sound, Folding Towbar, Rear Axle Steering.
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JonoNZ Captain 677 Rep 745 Posts Drives: BMW iX M60, Macan Turbo Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Auckland, New Zealand iTrader: (0)	A few more pics of the 405M on EB2 with M Performance (not my car)... Attached Images __________________ BMW iX M60, Storm Bay with XPEL Stealth PPF, Exterior Line Titan Bronze, 1EW 22" 1023 Wheels, Amido Leather, Comfort Package, Interior Camera, Clear&Bold, Sun Protection Glazing, B&W Diamond Sound, Folding Towbar, Rear Axle Steering.
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04-01-2013, 01:39 AM	#3
TheInsurgent New Member 1 Rep 20 Posts Drives: 2013 328xi Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Detroit, MI iTrader: (0)	IMO ... the 403's look great. But it sounds like you have already sold yourself on the 405's. From comparing the show car to your's, it looks as if it's the only thing missing to almost be an exact match. Get ready for guys to ask how much to ship to from New Zeland to New Jersey. __________________ '13 328xi / '12 328i / '11 550i / '11 X5 / '06 328i / '04 325Ci / '85 325
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TheInsurgent New Member 1 Rep 20 Posts Drives: 2013 328xi Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Detroit, MI iTrader: (0)	Those big 'ol brakes look good inside those wheels on the second set of photos. It would be tough to get the 20's on without 'em after seeing those photos. __________________ '13 328xi / '12 328i / '11 550i / '11 X5 / '06 328i / '04 325Ci / '85 325
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04-01-2013, 01:59 AM	#5
Agamemnon Captain 175 Rep 646 Posts Drives: 2016 m3 ss2 zcp full leather Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Richmond BC iTrader: (0)	Have you thought about getting a set of HRE or Morr wheels. Both manufacture wheels that are forged and light and look sensational. You are spending a lot of money anyway so you should consider all of the options out there.
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04-01-2013, 03:23 AM	#6
fad Enlisted Member 7 Rep 45 Posts Drives: BMW F30 328 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: KL, Malaysia iTrader: (0)	Or BBS LM's Attached Images __________________
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04-01-2013, 05:53 AM	#7
dcg71 Captain 72 Rep 941 Posts Drives: F15 X5 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Brisbane, Australia iTrader: (2)	I went with 405Ms, although seriously considered 403Ms at one stage. No issues with ride harshness, they're still quite compliant, akin to 19's on the E9x which I was pretty familiar with anyway. 405Ms have better proportions for the car if you ask me (more so with the M performance body kit and the added visual "tallness" of the car). Clearly they're also a more aggressive design (and the Orbit Grey looks great IMO). 403Ms on the other hand are a bit more understated, which is not such a bad thing, and I guess ride slightly softer.
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04-01-2013, 01:40 PM	#9
DangerousTacos SA at Leith BMW 58 Rep 426 Posts Drives: F80 M3 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Raleigh, NC iTrader: (0)	I like the 20s, but potholes would destroy them where I live. They're rather expensive in my opinion too, I'd rather get a nice set of forged wheels for the same cost. __________________ Current: 2012 BMW E89 Z4 35is DCT, 2015 VW Jetta TDI DSG Past: 2015 BMW ///M3 F80 6MT, 2016 VW Jetta Sport 5MT, 2013 BMW F30 335i 8AT, 2012 VW Jetta, 2008 BMW E92 335i 6MT, 2007 BMW E60 550i 6AT, 2007 Chevrolet TrailBlazer SS Follow me on instagram - @DangerousTacos Service Advisor @ Leith BMW \| Raleigh, NC
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10-06-2013, 10:04 AM	#10
Jasun New Member 7 Rep 27 Posts Drives: '14 328xi GT M-Sport Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Avon, Indiana iTrader: (0)	Love the Estoril blue color with the 405's. I went with them on my jet black 328i as well and very glad I did. Look great with dark windows, carbon fiber spoiler and black kidney grills. Attached Images
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10-06-2013, 12:41 PM	#11
izzyM2 Major 703 Rep 1,241 Posts Drives: 24’M2/21ID.4/21’MacanGTS Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: SoCal iTrader: (4)	I vote for 403M. I just switched mine form the 400M to 403M in black.
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Sedan_Clan Law Enforcer 24976 Rep 22,265 Posts Drives: '22 Chalk Gray Porsche C2S Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: ..in your rearview!!! iTrader: (26)	I think the 403M's are a really nice looking wheel. I wish that BMW had just made them wider and/or in a 20" variant.
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10-07-2013, 12:19 PM	#15
Bernard335 Second Lieutenant 35 Rep 207 Posts Drives: BMW 335i M Sport M Performance Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: South Africa iTrader: (0)	I also replaced my 403, but went with the 433 wheel off the M6 GC
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10-24-2013, 06:08 PM	#16
lordfink New Member 0 Rep 9 Posts Drives: 320i Sports Line Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Singapore iTrader: (0)	Bumping this thread rather than starting a new one. Was hoping someone who had made the switch to 405m wheels could share their thoughts. Any issues with turning radius or rubbing when going over humps/ potholes? Do the wheels feel like they're too large for the car? Any input in much appreciated.
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10-25-2013, 02:18 AM	#18
lordfink New Member 0 Rep 9 Posts Drives: 320i Sports Line Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Singapore iTrader: (0)	Ah ok... Thanks for that. I am still on the stock wheels that came with my F30. So just looking to get a feel of how people are liking their 405M wheels.
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10-25-2013, 02:32 AM	#19
AMJAM Captain 33 Rep 944 Posts Drives: 2013 Alpine 328I MSport Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: What is the Matrix iTrader: (0)	Personally I think they are completely over priced and for the money there are better looking aftermarket wheels out there __________________ 2013 Alpine White 328I M Sport ARRIVED
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10-25-2013, 03:59 AM	#20
Vitoco Infidel 122 Rep 1,102 Posts Drives: iX3 LCI M Pro Carbon B Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sweden iTrader: (0)	Bare in mind the 405´s weigh significantly less than the 403´s, I think its something like 10-11 kg vs. 13-14 kg. Now THAT will make a big change not only to performance but comfort aswell. My 20" wheels that weigh ~11.5 kg made a huge difference vs the 403M´s I had, but I´m sure the Michelin PSS add to the comfort factor. __________________ Dec. 2022: Fully loaded Carbon Black G08 iX3 LCI M Sport Pro Former: Glacier Ag. F31 328iA RWD M Sport oct. 2012, sold July 2022 \| Sport Automatic \| Adap. M Susp. \| Pano. Moonroof \| 20" ATS Racelight Grey w. Michelin PSS\| M Sport brakes \| Harman Kardon \| Elec. Seats \| PDC F&R \| ACC Stop&Go \| 335i MPE \| Perf. Parts \|
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10-25-2013, 07:06 PM	#22
M-terkait Major 209 Rep 1,252 Posts Drives: F30 335i 3/13 Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Kuwait iTrader: (0)	at my dealer they are pricing each 405M for 378KD which is almost 1300$ Q_Q __________________ Docrace 6266
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