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      01-27-2016, 09:25 AM   #1
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I've a f32 with retrofitted NBT with iDrive touch (with the plugin module for VIN check and to unlock video in motion)

Original car equipment:

Code:
Order options
	No. 	Description 
	1CA 	SELECTION COP RELEVANT VEHICLES 
	
	2PA 	LOCKING WHEEL BOLTS 
	
	2PM 	18"M LT/ALY WHEELS DOUBLE SP. 441M/ 
	
	2TB 	SPORT AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION 
	
	2VL 	VARIABLE SPORTS STEERING 
	
	230 	EU SPECIFIC ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT 
	
	258 	RUNFLAT TYRES 
	
	337 	M SPORT PACKAGE 
	
	4DX 	HIGH.TRIM FIN. BLUE MET. MATT 
	
	4MR 	INT. TR. FIN. ALUMINIUM HEXAGON 
	
	4NE 	BLOW-BY-HEATER 
	
	481 	SPORT SEATS F DRIVER/FRONT PASSENGER 
	
	502 	HEADLIGHT WASHER SYSTEM 
	
	522 	XENON LIGHT 
	
	534 	AUTOMATIC AIR CONDITIONING 
	
	575 	ADDITIONAL 12V POWER SOCKET 
	
	6NH 	HANDS-FREE FACILITY W. USB INTERFAC 
	
	6VB 	CONTROL INFOTAINMENT 
	
	698 	AREA-CODE 2 
	
	710 	M LEATHER STEERING WHEEL 
	
	715 	M AERODYNAMICS PACKAGE 
	
	760 	INDIVIDUAL HIGH-GLOSS SATIN CHROME 
	
	775 	INDIVIDUAL ROOF-LINING ANTHRACITE 
	
	8KA 	OELSERVICE INT. 30.000 KM/24 MONTHS 
	
	845 	ACOUSTIC BELT WARNING 
	
	855 	LANGUAGE VERSION ITALIAN 
	
	884 	ITALIAN / ON-BOARD DOCUMENTATION 
	
	962 	NUMBER PLATE HOLDER FRONT, DELETION
I've done the following:

modified the VO and writed to the car with VCM>Write FA FP

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1CA,230,258,2PA,2PM,2TB,2VL,337,481,4DX,4MR,4NE,502,522,534,544,548,563,575,609,614,616,698,6AK,6AL,6NR,6NS,6VB,710,715,760,775,845,855,884,8KA,962
Coded the NBT with:

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3003 > DUN_PROFILE - aktiv
3003 > PAN_PROFILE - aktiv
3003 > ONLINE_BROWSER - beide_aktiv
3003 > ONLINE_SERVICES - nicht_aktiv
3003 > ONLINE_SERVICES_GLS - nicht_aktiv
3003 > ASSIST - nicht_aktiv
3003 > ONLINE_BROWSER_LIVE - aktiv
3003 > DATACOMM_CSIM - nicht_aktiv
Now Bmw Online show up but it can't connect to the internet, says there is no internet connection

Tethering works because if I try to update bmw online service it connects to my iPhone.

I've also tried to do this:

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Under FZAuftag-Header, Change the VIN number from yours to the DONOR VIN (Original VIN that your NBT came with) Make sure you put in the FULL VIN.
Save it as xxx - NBT ONLY or whatever you want to call it. You would use this VO only when you use to FDL Code your NBT.
Any hint?

BTW, before this NBT was working but without Mp3 artwork when playing music/spotify/deezer. Now I can see songs artwork but the strange thing is when the song ends the player don't start the next song, i've to manually start from the phone :dunno:
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      01-27-2016, 10:30 AM   #2
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You should remove 6VB or else your BMW Apps is not going to work properly. Also did you change the FA to have the the donor VIN in there and VO code HU_NBT? After you do that, try doing a BMW Assist Update on the menu and see what happens.
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      01-27-2016, 11:13 AM   #3
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You should remove 6VB or else your BMW Apps is not going to work properly. Also did you change the FA to have the the donor VIN in there and VO code HU_NBT? After you do that, try doing a BMW Assist Update on the menu and see what happens.
I've done the following:

Read FA, save, edit adding the donor vin under FZAuftag-Header, saved, activated, coded the NBT with

Code:
3003 > DUN_PROFILE - aktiv
3003 > PAN_PROFILE - aktiv
3003 > ONLINE_BROWSER - beide_aktiv
3003 > ONLINE_SERVICES - nicht_aktiv
3003 > ONLINE_SERVICES_GLS - nicht_aktiv
3003 > ASSIST - nicht_aktiv
3003 > ONLINE_BROWSER_LIVE - aktiv
3003 > DATACOMM_CSIM - nicht_aktiv
Of course I didn't writed the FA with modified VIN to the car with these steps I should do?

Anyway I will try removing 6VB. I need to add any other ?

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      01-27-2016, 02:52 PM   #4
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Tried again with:

Read FA>Save>Edit>Removed 6VB>Calculate FP>Save>VCM>Write FA FP

Edit FA, edit VIN number>Calculate FP>Save>Activate FA and coded NBT again two times with:

Code:
3003 > DUN_PROFILE - aktiv
3003 > PAN_PROFILE - aktiv
3003 > ONLINE_BROWSER - beide_aktiv
3003 > ONLINE_SERVICES - nicht_aktiv
3003 > ONLINE_SERVICES_GLS - nicht_aktiv
3003 > ASSIST - nicht_aktiv
3003 > ONLINE_BROWSER_LIVE - aktiv
3003 > DATACOMM_CSIM - nicht_aktiv
And... nothing changed. Still can't connect to BMW Online but if I select Update bmw online service it can connect to the internet (globe with the 2 arrows)

What I can do now?
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      01-27-2016, 10:04 PM   #5
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Tried again with:

Read FA>Save>Edit>Removed 6VB>Calculate FP>Save>VCM>Write FA FP

Edit FA, edit VIN number>Calculate FP>Save>Activate FA and coded NBT again two times with:

And... nothing changed. Still can't connect to BMW Online but if I select Update bmw online service it can connect to the internet (globe with the 2 arrows)

What I can do now?
What VIN did you use? Is the VIN you use provisioned with BMW Live option? I understand people are using this fake VIN WBAFV31030DZ17872 to activate BMW Live.

Regarding the MP3 album art not showing, there are a couple of codes that you can check but I don't have them now.

For music playing issue, suggest you to update your media / phone software via www.bmw.com/update first. Input your DONOR Vin in order to get the software update for your retrofitted NBT. The latest version of the bin file should be UPD05073 (90.1 MB) for MN-002/TN-002 software series.
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      01-28-2016, 07:10 PM   #6
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What VIN did you use? Is the VIN you use provisioned with BMW Live option? I understand people are using this fake VIN WBAFV31030DZ17872 to activate BMW Live.

Regarding the MP3 album art not showing, there are a couple of codes that you can check but I don't have them now.

For music playing issue, suggest you to update your media / phone software via www.bmw.com/update first. Input your DONOR Vin in order to get the software update for your retrofitted NBT. The latest version of the bin file should be UPD05073 (90.1 MB) for MN-002/TN-002 software series.
Thank you. Problem solved with WBAFV31030DZ17872 .
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      01-29-2016, 12:27 PM   #7
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do you still have the ability to use bmw assist?
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      01-29-2016, 12:47 PM   #8
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do you still have the ability to use bmw assist?
Yes you are right. BMW mentioned that they shutdown the service for Assist.

Perhaps it is different in Europe
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hi,

I have almost the same problem. I had VO coded BMW live on my hu_entry. Today I retrofitted NBT and it is functioning good. At first BMW live was active and working great. But then it disappeared suddenly when I pressed "update bmw services." By the way retrofit is registered to BMW by FSC. No emulator or what so ever. Any ideas how to re-enable BMW live?
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hi,

I have almost the same problem. I had VO coded BMW live on my hu_entry. Today I retrofitted NBT and it is functioning good. At first BMW live was active and working great. But then it disappeared suddenly when I pressed "update bmw services." By the way retrofit is registered to BMW by FSC. No emulator or what so ever. Any ideas how to re-enable BMW live?
Code again using a Vin with bwm live active. After that you can code again using the original VIN but don't use anymore "update bmw services"
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When I use this Magic Fake VIN. The NBT will not start and stay black...

Any suggestions?
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Thank you. Problem solved with WBAFV31030DZ17872 .
Please describe exactly the steps how you put this vin in, what kind of coding...

Thanks
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Please describe exactly the steps how you put this vin in, what kind of coding...

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Coding steps in 1st post.

Added the VIN to my FA (Read FA, edit, Under FZAuftag-Header change the VIN) activate FA and then code NBT
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Coding steps in 1st post.

Added the VIN to my FA (Read FA, edit, Under FZAuftag-Header change the VIN) activate FA and then code NBT
Ok so no Expert mode => VCM => Load saved FA (VO)=> Right click on FA => Calculate FP => click “read FA FP VIN”

right?
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hi,

I have almost the same problem. I had VO coded BMW live on my hu_entry. Today I retrofitted NBT and it is functioning good. At first BMW live was active and working great. But then it disappeared suddenly when I pressed "update bmw services." By the way retrofit is registered to BMW by FSC. No emulator or what so ever. Any ideas how to re-enable BMW live?
Code again using a Vin with bwm live active. After that you can code again using the original VIN but don't use anymore "update bmw services"
thanks for that great advice.

Do I have to upload my legal FSC code back into the NBT after I finally code with my original VIN?
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Hi all,

Nice thread, I also 'had' BMW Live, until I pressed the update button.

If I'm reading this correctly, I need to:

1. Change my FA with the WBAFV31030DZ17872 and write to the car.
2. VO Code the NBT
3. Change my FA back to my original VIN and write to the car.

Should VO Code my NBT again? I'm guessing I shouldn't as it'll just use my original VIN again.
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Today I tried again with no success. The NBT stay black when I change the VIN.
In my opinion this is not possible for me due to I have a factory installed NBT but without those live features.
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Today I tried again with no success. The NBT stay black when I change the VIN.
In my opinion this is not possible for me due to I have a factory installed NBT but without those live features.
You need a emulator if you are coding someone else's VIN into your NBT. So if you have factory installed NBT, it's not just a direct coding but hardware is also needed.
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Hi all,

Nice thread, I also 'had' BMW Live, until I pressed the update button.

If I'm reading this correctly, I need to:

1. Change my FA with the WBAFV31030DZ17872 and write to the car.
2. VO Code the NBT
3. Change my FA back to my original VIN and write to the car.

Should VO Code my NBT again? I'm guessing I shouldn't as it'll just use my original VIN again.
You actually don't need to update the modified FA into your car and you shouldn't be doing it. Instead, you should

1. Edit FA and change VIN to WBAFV31030DZ17872
2. Save as a new FA (do not use this new FA for all other purposes other than enabling BMW Live)
3. Do not write the FA to the car
3. VO code NBT (make sure you've disabled VCM and MSM update in eSYS option)
4. Go to ConnectedDrive and update service
5. Edit FA and change VIN to your car's VIN
6. VO code NBT
7. Do not update service anymore

(You also need a emulator for coding someone else's VIN into NBT)
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You actually don't need to update the modified FA into your car and you shouldn't be doing it. Instead, you should

1. Edit FA and change VIN to WBAFV31030DZ17872
2. Save as a new FA (do not use this new FA for all other purposes other than enabling BMW Live)
3. Do not write the FA to the car
3. VO code NBT (make sure you've disabled VCM and MSM update in eSYS option)
4. Go to ConnectedDrive and update service
5. Edit FA and change VIN to your car's VIN
6. VO code NBT
7. Do not update service anymore

(You also need a emulator for coding someone else's VIN into NBT)
Nice one thanks. I've have retrofitted my NBT so the emulator is present.

Once I've done the above, everything else like generating DE code for the maps is unaffected? i.e. I should still use the NBT donor VIN.
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I am having a hard time with getting BMW live and internet to work. My car came with :

1CA,248,249,258,2NH,2PF,2TB,2VF,2VL,302,319,322,33 7,3AG,403,423,430,431,441,459,465,481,488,494,4DX, 4MR,4NE,508,521,522,524,534,548,563,5AC,5AP,5DF,5D S,609,610,645,688,693,697,6NH,6VA,6WA,710,715,760, 775,823,838,840,845,853,876,8KC,8S4,8SM,8TH,925,99 2,993,

In order to activate Bluetooth streaming, ipod control through apple cable and office integration by build was changed to :

1CA,248,249,258,2NH,2PF,2TB,2VF,2VL,302,319,322,33 7,3AG,403,423,430,431,441,459,465,481,488,494,4DX, 4MR,4NE,508,521,522,524,534,548,563,5AC,5AP,5DF,5D S,609,610,645,688,693,697,6NK,6VA,6WA,710,715,760, 775,823,838,840,845,853,876,8KC,8S4,8SM,8TH,925,99 2,993,

I have followed Shawn Sheridan's directions to no avail. I can't get update services to not be greyed out.

BMW live and internet options are there, bluetooth tethering is on and I have checked the option to use phone mobile data in CIC.

Anyone in the same boat manage to get theirs activated?
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Nice one thanks. I've have retrofitted my NBT so the emulator is present.

Once I've done the above, everything else like generating DE code for the maps is unaffected? i.e. I should still use the NBT donor VIN.
Yup, your FSC VIN will NOT be changed, actually it is essential as you need a valid FSC (which was generated using the NBT donor VIN) for activating both navigation and map, so you should continue to use your NBT donor VIN to generate map key in the future, in case of map update.
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