[paco29toy]

Does anyone know the quality of this product? I'm thinking of getting something similar to this.

http://www.highperformancebulbs.com/bmw-h7-led-headlight-kit-4500-lumens.html



Thanks

[Billfitz]

They appear virtually identical to what I have. You will have to code, but that applies to all LEDs.
http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1377259

[paco29toy]

So the "LED Error Cancelers" wont do anything? Only had this car for a few weeks and not too confident about coding.

Looks like the ones you have are a bit brighter at 50W 8000 Lumen 6500K White. The ones I saw are 30W 4500 Lumen 6000K brilliant white.

[Billfitz]

The error cancellers cancel the error warning, but they, and resistors, have no effect on the flickering when you turn on the ignition caused by the cold check and every five minutes thereafter caused by the warm check. That can only be coded out.

Take the lumens and watts with a grain of salt. The one is per bulb, the other is per pair, and neither is even close to accurate. I can say that they are brighter and whiter and worth the change.

[paco29toy]

I see. I guess I won't need to buy the cancelers if I'll be coding it anyways. Now I need to look into the coding portion. Thanks for you help!

[Billfitz]

Originally Posted by paco29toy

I see. I guess I won't need to buy the cancelers if I'll be coding it anyways.

That depends on what they're calling cancellers. You do need LED drivers, in the picture that's the black box with wires at either end. You must have those, otherwise you can't plug in the lamps, and they should come with the lamps. They are what cancels the error message. In some cases a resistor is also required (read my link) but that has nothing to do with error messages. Nonetheless some places call resistors error cancellers. Frankly the technical expertise of most retailers isn't what it should be, and that's one reason why there's so much confusion and even downright disinformation out there about LED. I sorted all through it, eventually, but it helped that I'm an EE. I can see it being a nightmare for the average Joe.

[paco29toy]

I'll might buy the ones from your post since you have tried them already. I'll be ordering the OBD2 cable to code too. That way I can just install, code and be done with it. Did you upgrade your fog lights too?

[Billfitz]

I did the fogs with the same bulbs, H8/11 version. The brand was different, as I said in my thread there are many brands selling the same product at different prices, so you have to shop around, but they're all on Amazon. Also as explained in the thread resistors are required with fogs. The increase in output with the fogs is much higher than with the headlights, as the fog halogen bulbs are only 35w compared to 55w for the halogen headlight bulbs.

[Dukie585]

Originally Posted by paco29toy

I'll might buy the ones from your post since you have tried them already. I'll be ordering the OBD2 cable to code too. That way I can just install, code and be done with it. Did you upgrade your fog lights too?

paco29toy, where did you order your OBD2 cable from?

[paco29toy]

I did read carefully through your thread and just to make sure I got everything. It seems like something I'll have to try after getting the low beans replaced since it may require some more work.

[paco29toy]

Originally Posted by Dukie585

paco29toy, where did you order your OBD2 cable from?

I'll be getting it from the link below. Link was provided in a different thread. Looks like there provide a lot of info for a new guy like me.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/122087082218?rmvSB=true

[valley_nomad]

Originally Posted by paco29toy

So the "LED Error Cancelers" wont do anything? Only had this car for a few weeks and not too confident about coding....

Don'f be fooled by any of those fancy names --- Error Canceler, CanBus Decoder etc. They may or may not work for your car, which means you may still get either error message or flickering or both. This is because that every car manufacturer uses its own way to check the bulbs. The aftermarket LED makers just have no way to produce something that works for all cars.

[paco29toy]

Originally Posted by valley_nomad

Don'f be fooled by any of those fancy names --- Error Canceler, CanBus Decoder etc. They may or may not work for your car, which means you may still get either error message or flickering or both. This is because that every car manufacturer uses its own way to check the bulbs. The aftermarket LED makers just have no way to produce something that works for all cars.

Thanks for the heads up, did you installed any aftermarket LEDs on your car?
Halogen were stock on my car when I got it about a month ago, so there was not xenon upgrade option.

[valley_nomad]

Originally Posted by paco29toy

Thanks for the heads up, did you installed any aftermarket LEDs on your car?
Halogen were stock on my car when I got it about a month ago, so there was not xenon upgrade option.

I got the same car as yours. After some research, I decided to hold off on LED upgrading for its lo/hi beam lights. I found that there isn't good aftermarket solution yet for my F30 in terms of good performance and easy installation. In my opinion, the headlight performance should include not only the brightness but also beam pattern. Few aftermarket LED headlight bulb actually works well with the original optics design (e.g. reflector and lens) of headlight. The resulting beam pattern will be very likely no longer meet the regulatory requirement. The installation usually is not plug-and-play. Many of them need modification to either bulb assembly (e.g. heatsink) or headlight housing for the installation. Before there is more suitable aftermarket solution the more practical upgrading for low/hi beam lights is probably just to use other H7 halogen bulbs with the increase brightness and/or whiter color.

[Billfitz]

Originally Posted by valley_nomad

Before there is more suitable aftermarket solution the more practical upgrading for low/hi beam lights is probably just to use other H7 halogen bulbs with the increase brightness and/or whiter color.

I've got no issues with my LEDs. As for other halogen H7, the Osram Rallye 65w was the only halogen with actual higher lumens, and it's been discontinued. Bulbs that are tinted to appear white have lower lumens output.