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      06-21-2017, 01:47 PM   #23
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So I swopped out my springs on my 2013 335i XDrive 6MT for a set of M Sport Springs from a 2013 335 M Sport RWD.....retained same shocks cos the XDrive fronts are different. Dropped the car 20MM all around. Reduced the roll almost completely and firmed up the suspension by a seat of the pants 10-15%.
Nice! Is wheel gap visibly less now?
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Wheel gap is much improved yes.... looks M Sport
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Wheel gap is much improved yes.... looks M Sport
Have any pictures? I would like to do the same
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      01-21-2018, 11:50 AM   #26
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This is my car lowered an additional 10mm from M Sport height using Dinan springs. My old M Sport springs with about 35k miles are available BTW.
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So AWD sits 10mm higher than 704 RWD standard. Then M-Sport sits 10mm lower than 704 RWD standard. In other words there's a 20mm difference between AWD and RWD M-Sport suspension. I'm assuming besides ride height M-Sport has stiffer springs correct? Are shocks same or they have different stiffness too?
Well close, except the 704 is not the standard RWD suspension - it is the sport suspension without adaptive, so:

Lets use a RWD model without sport options as a baseline.

Xdrive - either with or without adaptive sits 10mm higher

sport or M sport - either with or without adaptive sits 10mm lower

I do not believe adaptive effects the ride height in either application, but not sure how the actual spring rates are effected - if at all. Adaptive changes the shocks/dampers so that they are adjustable via a valve to range from softer to firmer. System monitors all kinds of data to determine how soft the dampers should be and continuously adjusts them as you drive. Also comfort, sport & sport + has some effect on logic for adaptive dampers.

So yes, 20mm between Xdrive and sport

Yes stiffer springs, although exact specs are hard to pinpoint and yes, historically, shocks/dampers are different too and are matched with each of the 5 different suspension set-ups. FWIW, I researched this a bit and test drove and selected the non adaptive sport suspension - 704 and am very happy with it. I think it matched with the right tires is the typical BMW sport suspension, although other suspension set-up have merit for others.
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This is not true, not sure where this myth about xdrive sitting higher than the standard rwd suspension came from, probably confusion because bmws literature is not super helpful. The 704 is 10mm lower than standard rwd or xdrive. But standard rwd and xdrive have the same height. You can grab a ruler and check. But it's obvious from the eyeball test that the xdrive cars do not sit an inch higher than the rwd sport suspension cars. They don't even sit an inch higher than the m3.
Why do you keep spewing wrong information? The standard/baseline rwd car DOES NOT share the same suspension as an xdrive car. As has been stated many times, xdrive sits 10mm higher than a base car. We've known this for years. 704 sport suspension brings it down 10mm from the base suspension and also includes thicker sway bars. This is nothing new.
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Pretty sure it's 10mm. 20 is almost an entire inch

http://www.bimmerfile.com/2011/10/14...e-a-must-have/
its is most definitely almost an inch lower or 20MM. Especially in the rear where it is the M suspension.
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Pretty sure it's 10mm. 20 is almost an entire inch

http://www.bimmerfile.com/2011/10/14...e-a-must-have/
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This is not true, not sure where this myth about xdrive sitting higher than the standard rwd suspension came from, probably confusion because bmws literature is not super helpful. The 704 is 10mm lower than standard rwd or xdrive. But standard rwd and xdrive have the same height. You can grab a ruler and check. But it's obvious from the eyeball test that the xdrive cars do not sit an inch higher than the rwd sport suspension cars. They don't even sit an inch higher than the m3.
Why do you keep spewing wrong information? The standard/baseline rwd car DOES NOT share the same suspension as an xdrive car. As has been stated many times, xdrive sits 10mm higher than a base car. We've known this for years. 704 sport suspension brings it down 10mm from the base suspension and also includes thicker sway bars. This is nothing new.
Wow pal take it easy, if you are going to dig up and aggressively respond to a post from June of last year at least note the post I made literally 2 after acknowledging it's a huge mess because of the poor information.
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Wow pal take it easy, if you are going to dig up and aggressively respond to a post from June of last year at least note the post I made literally 2 after acknowledging it's a huge mess because of the poor information.
You took that as aggressive?
I will admit, I didn't notice the original date of the thread, only the new comments. So no, I wasn't the one that dug up an old thread.
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