[southlight]

Originally Posted by Nero7

When will BMW release price and ordering info (europe) for M-sport package, how long do we need to wait?

Most likely all information will be released in May.


Best regards,
south

[Nero7]

Originally Posted by southlight

Most likely all information will be released in May.


Best regards,
south

Ok, thanks

[Road Cone1]

Judging by the CDN price of MSport for X3 the price is $2900.
Electronic dampeners are an additional $1500.
I would think the F30 pricing will likely be the same, albeit lower in the US.

[MaX PL]

Originally Posted by Road Cone1

Judging by the CDN price of MSport for X3 the price is $2900.
Electronic dampeners are an additional $1500.
I would think the F30 pricing will likely be the same, albeit lower in the US.

fyi, its $3000 in the US.

thats basically the price i've been using to calculate my config. hope its true as i doubt it'll be lower.

[MaX PL]

So it seems a military guy over at the pricing sub forum has purchased a 2013 m sport over in Germany.

He claims the cost of the package is around $3500.

[derekh929]

Originally Posted by JulieDriving

Looks great! Except for the steering wheel. Hope the new M doesn't come with that steering wheel.....

This a a copy of the e30 bMW one and believe you me it was a fantastic sports wheel great to hold and look at

[derekh929]

Originally Posted by Aggression

Does anyone else not like the looks of the steering wheel? It looks horrible compared to the stock one on the 335 F30.

I think the wheel looks great just like the e30 BMW sport one and it was fantastic in your hands

[Alpine F31]

I love it too. It looks just like the wheel in the new M6 except for the stitching.

[derekh929]

Originally Posted by Alpine F31

I love it too. It looks just like the wheel in the new M6 except for the stitching.

Yes and the funny thing is they had a lot of info re the wheel being unique to M^ won't be happy M6 owner to find out 100's of thousands the same loved it when i saw it

[JulieDriving]

Originally Posted by derekh929

Yes and the funny thing is they had a lot of info re the wheel being unique to M^ won't be happy M6 owner to find out 100's of thousands the same loved it when i saw it

Actually, the steering wheel of the new M6 is not exactly the same as that of the F30 M-Sport, although they have similar looks. I was able to sit in M6 convertible this past Thursday (my local dealership was having a new facility launch party and got a blue M6 cabrio in for the launch). There is a slit down the lower middle of the steering wheel - see below.



The wheel on the M6 looked really good in person. Perhaps I will not dislike the F30 M-Sport steering wheel as much in person.

[iBeech]

fugly steering wheel- cannot believe Cloth/alcantara seats are available in the states. interior looks very similar to the 1series m sport:

[clarence]

Originally Posted by iBeech

fugly steering wheel- cannot believe Cloth/alcantara seats are available in the states. interior looks very similar to the 1series m sport:

This is the F20 1er.

[Maz335i]

Originally Posted by MaX PL

So it seems a military guy over at the pricing sub forum has purchased a 2013 m sport over in Germany.

He claims the cost of the package is around $3500.

Yup! I read that too...

Let's hope it's not more than $3500...

[iBeech]

Originally Posted by clarence

This is the F20 1er.

yes, as i said- i put it for comparison.

[RPM90]

Originally Posted by msuka

1. M sport has no alcantara for the states only leather 2. M sport does offer brushed aluminum trim 3. M sport steering wheel looks 1000x better (my opinion) 4.225/255 statgared has been the norm for previous 3 series sport or m sport cars to induce a bit of understeer for saftey reasons 5.M sport does have sportier suspension as a option (which should have been included like the e46 zhp)

GREAT!

I've since read that in the US we get all leather, not alcantara, as I prefer.
Brushed aluminum would be my choice, but I think it read that it was some type of aluminum finish though not quite "brushed".
I'll have to wait to be sure as I want to be positive.
I like the M sport steering wheel, so it's fine for me.
Staggered wheels/tires don't really do much for handling. I've had a straight set on my E46 325i sport, and have staggered on my 135i.
I've also driven many E46 staggered setups, and the only difference for me is that the wider rear tires give a bit more rubber for acceleration once the weight transfers to the rear. As for handling my E46 with a straight setup had lighter and better handling than a staggered E46 330i.
It's not a deal breaker, but I like a straight setup for longer tire life as they can be rotated, which also allows for equal wear and less prone to setting up an oscillating tire noise, which happens more readily in cars where you can't rotate tires. Over all, it's less costly and you get better equal tire wear.
To each his own though. If I go with M sport no biggie as I'll have to get a staggered set of tires for the other 3 seasons.

Thanks.

[RPM90]

Originally Posted by Alpine F31

Did you mean to say "can't get full leather"?

I read somewhere that the alcantara seats will not be offered on US spec M Sports. Unlike you, I hope BMW will offer it as an alternative to leather. I love the look of the honey comb pattern on the alcanta M Sport seats! I'm over leather! Bring on the alcantara!

Yes I did. Thanks.

It's great to have choices.
I know people like alcantara, I don't.
IN every car I've seen it in, after a year to two it looks matted down and unattractive.
But as I said, it's great to have choices, as we all don't like the same things.

I will say the new sport seats are AMAZING! I test drove a 328i sport and the seats are sublime. I decided to go with the 3 series mainly due to the seats. I was considering an S4, but after sitting in the new sport seats I fell in love. Support and comfort of the seats is a top priority for me. If I can't feel and be comfortable, then everything else just doesn't work. BMW did an excellent job on the seats.

[RPM90]

Originally Posted by MaX PL

So it seems a military guy over at the pricing sub forum has purchased a 2013 m sport over in Germany.

He claims the cost of the package is around $3500.

I'm not positive, but from what the dealer told me, this sounds about right.
So, compared to the sport line package, the M sport will only be about $1500 more. IOW, it's $3500 above the standard no package 3 series, not $3500 on top of the sport line package.

If that is true, then that's great, and priced appropriately.
For an extra $1500 - $2000 on top of the sport line the M will get a body kit, staggered unique wheels, special sport steering wheel, M sills, M foot rest, short shifter for MT choice.
The majority of cost if for the body kit as far as I can tell.

Also, the suspension question has become muddled.
I know South posted some comments on this, but it still seems like the STANDARD suspension for the M sport will be the same as the suspension included in the sport line package.
BMW states that the sport line suspension is lowered by 10mm.
BMW also states that the M sport suspension is lowered by 10mm.
But, I haven't read that the M sport suspension lowers it an ADDITIONAL 10mm from the sport line suspension.

I'm talking about the standard sport suspensions not the adaptive suspension.
South, or anyone who knows definitively, is the M sport suspension DIFFERENT to the sport line suspension?
Compare the standard M sport suspension to the standard sport line suspension, and not the adaptive suspension.

The ride in the sport line is quite nice and nicely controlled body motion.
If the M sport standard suspension is lower and firmer, that would be fine as the sport line could easily be a bit firmer and still have a nice ride.

[pcbrew]

Is that the price for 328i or 335i?

[Alpine F31]

Originally Posted by RPM90

So, compared to the sport line package, the M sport will only be about $1500 more. IOW, it's $3500 above the standard no package 3 series, not $3500 on top of the sport line package.....

Man I hope you are right. I've been prepping myself to pay for the Sport Line AND the M Sport package (since they call it a "package" and not a line). I always assumed M Sport would be on top of a Sport Line and probably only available on a Sport Line.

I can't wait until all these questions are officially answered on the car configurer
whenever that happens!

[Mrcarcrazy]

Originally Posted by Alpine F31

Man I hope you are right. I've been prepping myself to pay for the Sport Line AND the M Sport package (since they call it a "package" and not a line). I always assumed M Sport would be on top of a Sport Line and probably only available on a Sport Line.

I can't wait until all these questions are officially answered on the car configurer
whenever that happens!

I suspect your assumptions are correct. But hey it's May, maybe we'll know soon.

[MaX PL]

i'm pretty sure that either bmw or jason here at bimmerpost have stated that it'll be its own package and not on top of the sports package.

[Alpine F31]

Originally Posted by MaX PL

i'm pretty sure that either bmw or jason here at bimmerpost have stated that it'll be its own package and not on top of the sports package.

Do you mean not on top of the "Sport Line"? Because there is no "sports package" (for USA cars) and that is what is a little confusing. M Sport is considered a "package" and not a "Line" like Sport, Luxury and Modern. That's why I thought the M Sport package would have to be ordered on top of the Sport Line just like Technology package or Driver assist package etc are options that are ordered on top of whichever "Line" you choose.