2012 Detroit NAIAS: BMW F30 3 Series Makes North American Debut (Base, Sport, Luxury)

m630 · 01-09-2012, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Questforpower

Then if I am not mistaken; then does this mean all new 3 series have the so called sport suspension of previous models?

I understand the sportline and M-Sport packages are just visual, correct?

Nope, the sportsline package has the sports suspension included, and then there is an additional adaptive M sport suspension option that can be ordered if you have a sportline or Msport model...

James T. Kirk · 01-09-2012, 01:17 PM

I can't stand that line across the hood. Hideous!
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Red Bread · 01-09-2012, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by James T. Kirk

I can't stand that line across the hood. Hideous!
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Given that the F01 and F10 have both had it, you should be getting used to it by now. It allows for a full seal on the engine, helping with CD and noise. It does look a little ungainly on light colors though, and the F10 seems to have it a little better integrated. I'm hoping it looks less noticeable in person.

Dante · 01-09-2012, 01:34 PM

The color of the base 328i is Glacier Silver, not Arctic silver.
No Arctic Silver available on F30.

Michael Schott · 01-09-2012, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BimmerGuyFL

BMW's are over priced more so now than ever now days. I cannot justify paying 45k for a heavy loaded 328i that's not really that much larger than the E90 model. Sure fuel econ is a bit better, but features wise you need to option them heavily to get what you really want. Base models look very BASE. Just saw that new 2013 Ford Fusion that will come with a 2.0 turbo 4 and a RWD biased AWD system. Exterior design is amazing and so many features for the price.

Is it fair to compare a 3 series to a Ford Fusion? I rent Fusions all the time and many are premium versions with leather, XM, V6 etc. I'm sure the new one will be a better car but in no way is a Fusion a comparable car to a 3 series. They are not meant to be in the same market. Also, is a loaded 328 more than a comparable C series Mercedes or A4 Audi?

WWM3 · 01-09-2012, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Bread

Given that the F01 and F10 have both had it, you should be getting used to it by now. It allows for a full seal on the engine, helping with CD and noise. It does look a little ungainly on light colors though, and the F10 seems to have it a little better integrated. I'm hoping it looks less noticeable in person.

I think the biggest difference between the F10 and the F30 hood lines is that on the F10 there is no big droop like on the F30. It seems like the F30's line is right where the nose goes downward which helps pronounce the hood line even more so.

E90Fleet · 01-09-2012, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason

Only the Sport Line and M Sport F30 models have the extra cooler behind the passenger side foglights. Those are seen as the sportier models, where extra cooling may come in handy for more spirited driving.

Thanks for the conformation
I was just wondering if the US 328i would get the "High speed synchronization" option that would add the cooler to the non-sportline models .
Seems like it wont

southlight · 01-09-2012, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by FstopBMW

I'm digging the sport models, but where is the M-sport??

We'll have lots of photos and information on the M Sport shortly.

Best regards,
south

mohrgan · 01-09-2012, 01:59 PM

I'm really pissed that you can't get the Sport Line with wood trim.

Red Bread · 01-09-2012, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mohrgan

I'm really pissed that you can't get the Sport Line with wood trim.

That is a shame, too bad it doesn't come with wire wheels and a Continental kit too! Just kidding, mostly.

DaveL · 01-09-2012, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BimmerGuyFL

BMW's are over priced more so now than ever now days. I cannot justify paying 45k for a heavy loaded 328i that's not really that much larger than the E90 model. Sure fuel econ is a bit better, but features wise you need to option them heavily to get what you really want. Base models look very BASE. Just saw that new 2013 Ford Fusion that will come with a 2.0 turbo 4 and a RWD biased AWD system. Exterior design is amazing and so many features for the price.

I agree on the Bimmer portion but let's chill on the Ford part..C'mon. Next I'll start name dropping my 335 with a 911. Ford Fusion of all things=Junk

DaveL · 01-09-2012, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by James T. Kirk

I can't stand that line across the hood. Hideous!
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Glad you noticed this too,very strange huh??

TOOFY · 01-09-2012, 02:14 PM

Im really not feeling the F30 at all! i hope it grows on me. Front end is gross. Wheels look like crap and that center console is the only thing im feeling. They ruined in my eyes the awesome head lights i've always loved on a BMW. Now it looks like it has down syndrome.

bimmerjph · 01-09-2012, 02:17 PM

This really is a great looking car. I have no doubt that it will be a trend setter. Once again great job BMW!

cjh · 01-09-2012, 02:20 PM

Good god those base wheels are terrible. Just another way to force you into a package.

WWM3 · 01-09-2012, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by southlight

We'll have lots of photos and information on the M Sport shortly.

Best regards,
south

Sweet!

cstavaru · 01-09-2012, 02:27 PM

It's already looking boring to me. Not sure why they advertise the red one which looks the ugliest from all the available colors. Just like they did with the M3, they advertised the red one at launch and then no one bought that color. BMW should admit that red doesn't look too good on most of it's cars.

Frosty · 01-09-2012, 04:56 PM

someone above mentioned wood not being available on the sport line... I personally (perhaps in the minority) love the textured (wave like) wood trim (most three dimensional of all the BMW trim I have seen)

When the F42 arrives, i would love a sport coupe with that textured wood... if the trim designations follow through... I will be sad to see fewer stand alone options and more package only...

I'm a minority I know but I do not like leather and wish for cloth or leatherette... I bet I will have difficulty with my (becoming more maybe now) purchase of a F42 when it arrives if I have to get leather to get something like comfort access... that's preposterous ~Frost

Zirenz2006 · 01-09-2012, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by James T. Kirk

I can't stand that line across the hood. Hideous!
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Get used to it...it's here to stay

Saintor · 01-09-2012, 05:34 PM

Even with the SP, the wheel gap is terrible. They could be mixed with xdrive versions.

StealYourFace · 01-09-2012, 07:46 PM

Awesome, Though the base 328i looks like an xi! Look at that stance.

I really want a new one, damn you BMW!

Pentium · 01-09-2012, 08:03 PM

very nice, waiting to see it in person!

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