N20 328i JB4 Dyno Testing -- 91 octane (Stage1/Stage2 Comparison)

bugsandry · 03-22-2013, 07:02 PM

How easy is it to install this mod? Sorry I am a total newbie in engine Mods but very very very excited

Jamesons Viggen · 03-22-2013, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bugsandry

How easy is it to install this mod? Sorry I am a total newbie in engine Mods but very very very excited

1 minute to disconnect the battery, 5-8 minutes to connect all the sensors.

bugsandry · 03-22-2013, 07:09 PM

Sign me up for this

Will it leave tuner code that will void warranties?

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Originally Posted by Jamesons Viggen

1 minute to disconnect the battery, 5-8 minutes to connect all the sensors.

David328M-Sport · 03-22-2013, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bugsandry

Will it leave tuner code that will void warranties?

There hasn't been a definitive no to the code, although it has been suggested so. However, the out that BMS offer, is for you/us to buy their CAN tool, which can delete any codes that may appear.

http://burgertuning.com/CAN_reader_tool_for_BMW.html

Still, if you have any warranty issues, remove the piggyback before taking your car to the dealer for service. Just as easy to remove as it is to install.

RJH · 03-23-2013, 09:33 AM

[QUOTE=David328M-Sport;13688935]There hasn't been a definitive no to the code, although it has been suggested so. However, the out that BMS offer, is for you/us to buy their CAN tool, which can delete any codes that may appear.

http://burgertuning.com/CAN_reader_tool_for_BMW.html

This link sasy exclusively for N54/55 - but isn't there also a <$40 USB cable that you can plug into your computer that works for N20???

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 03-23-2013, 03:04 PM

[QUOTE=RJH;13690549]

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Originally Posted by David328M-Sport

There hasn't been a definitive no to the code, although it has been suggested so. However, the out that BMS offer, is for you/us to buy their CAN tool, which can delete any codes that may appear.

http://burgertuning.com/CAN_reader_tool_for_BMW.html

This link sasy exclusively for N54/55 - but isn't there also a <$40 USB cable that you can plug into your computer that works for N20???

The CT works for the N20/N26 for code delete. Or wait for the Stage2 which has it built in. Stage2 also turns off light for downpipes.

More info here..

http://www.n54tuning.com/index.php?_...d&productId=64

Mike

David328M-Sport · 03-23-2013, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RJH

This link sasy exclusively for N54/55 - but isn't there also a <$40 USB cable that you can plug into your computer that works for N20???

Keep reading.

http://burgertuning.com/CAN_reader_tool_for_BMW.html

Right hand side - Applications list. It's also for the N20.

dgzill · 03-24-2013, 09:38 PM

for clarification, those of us with Stage 1, when we go to upgrade, what will be the cost? will there be an upgrade option or will it require us to pay another 400?

momo3605 · 03-24-2013, 10:22 PM

It will be $175 as an upgrade

dgzill · 03-25-2013, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by momo3605

It will be $175 as an upgrade

Sweet!...thanks

metrathon · 03-25-2013, 09:01 PM

Any idea when the Stage 2 will b up for sale? Ballpark estimate will do ...

David328M-Sport · 03-25-2013, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by metrathon

Any idea when the Stage 2 will b up for sale? Ballpark estimate will do ...

Soon……..Hehehe.

It's my birthday in early May, so I'm hoping for it to be available by then so I can (read - my family can) treat myself (me) to the S2 upgrade.

Sounds plausible, yes?

FrozenDarkness · 03-26-2013, 04:16 AM

for further clarification, if I live in San Francisco and already have the stage 1 tune, is it not worth it or even damaging to get the stage 2? i'm getting mixed messages between california having the worst 91 mix, to the little amoutn of power increases with 91. I'm actually worried my stage 1 might be damaging

Jamesons Viggen · 03-26-2013, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by FrozenDarkness

for further clarification, if I live in San Francisco and already have the stage 1 tune, is it not worth it or even damaging to get the stage 2? i'm getting mixed messages between california having the worst 91 mix, to the little amoutn of power increases with 91. I'm actually worried my stage 1 might be damaging

No, your fine, stage 1 by default is set up for 91 and stage 2 has been dynod on 91 and showed a reasonable gain.

FrozenDarkness · 03-26-2013, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamesons Viggen

No, your fine, stage 1 by default is set up for 91 and stage 2 has been dynod on 91 and showed a reasonable gain.

I'm more worried about it damaging my engine with Pings. I just wanted to make sure that stage 1 and stage 2 weren't made for 93 octane specifically but also thoroughly tested for sad people like me who chose to live in california.

metrathon · 03-26-2013, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by FrozenDarkness

I'm more worried about it damaging my engine with Pings. I just wanted to make sure that stage 1 and stage 2 weren't made for 93 octane specifically but also thoroughly tested for sad people like me who chose to live in california.

"sad" and "chose to live in california" don't really go together

krnnerdboy · 03-26-2013, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by FrozenDarkness

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Originally Posted by Jamesons Viggen

No, your fine, stage 1 by default is set up for 91 and stage 2 has been dynod on 91 and showed a reasonable gain.

I'm more worried about it damaging my engine with Pings. I just wanted to make sure that stage 1 and stage 2 weren't made for 93 octane specifically but also thoroughly tested for sad people like me who chose to live in california.

They're based in so cal

the pulstar · 04-30-2013, 11:59 AM

Any word on this as yet,really want to upgrade my stage 1

slmdgee · 04-30-2013, 01:13 PM

They should get a tune for 93..... any testers..

the pulstar · 05-12-2013, 10:20 AM

I have just installed my ER downpipe with the BMS 02 fix and it brought up my check light.
I have being running the stage1 with AFE intake and M performance exhaust and did not have any engine check light until the downpipe install.
I have a P3 gauge already installed in my obd port,so im just hoping the stage 2 is going to turn off my check engine light.
Any news of when the stage 2 will be for sale?
Will the engine check light affect my car performance?

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 05-12-2013, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by the pulstar

I have just installed my ER downpipe with the BMS 02 fix and it brought up my check light.
I have being running the stage1 with AFE intake and M performance exhaust and did not have any engine check light until the downpipe install.
I have a P3 gauge already installed in my obd port,so im just hoping the stage 2 is going to turn off my check engine light.
Any news of when the stage 2 will be for sale?
Will the engine check light affect my car performance?

They are allowing alpha testers now.

Mike

tricksterr24 · 05-13-2013, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

They are allowing alpha testers now.

Mike

I have a n26 engine and I'm interested in stage 2. Coming out soon? Located in LA

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RJH Private 5 Rep 78 Posts Drives: 328i xDrive Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Southern Ontario iTrader: (0)	[QUOTE=David328M-Sport;13688935]There hasn't been a definitive no to the code, although it has been suggested so. However, the out that BMS offer, is for you/us to buy their CAN tool, which can delete any codes that may appear. http://burgertuning.com/CAN_reader_tool_for_BMW.html This link sasy exclusively for N54/55 - but isn't there also a <$40 USB cable that you can plug into your computer that works for N20???
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dgzill Private 4 Rep 47 Posts Drives: 2013 BMW 328i Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Niceville FL iTrader: (0)	for clarification, those of us with Stage 1, when we go to upgrade, what will be the cost? will there be an upgrade option or will it require us to pay another 400? __________________ *2013 328i 6mt Sport Line*
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FrozenDarkness New Member 6 Rep 18 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: San Francisco iTrader: (0)	for further clarification, if I live in San Francisco and already have the stage 1 tune, is it not worth it or even damaging to get the stage 2? i'm getting mixed messages between california having the worst 91 mix, to the little amoutn of power increases with 91. I'm actually worried my stage 1 might be damaging
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the pulstar New Member 0 Rep 10 Posts Drives: 2012 bmw 328i sportline Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: jamaica iTrader: (0)	I have just installed my ER downpipe with the BMS 02 fix and it brought up my check light. I have being running the stage1 with AFE intake and M performance exhaust and did not have any engine check light until the downpipe install. I have a P3 gauge already installed in my obd port,so im just hoping the stage 2 is going to turn off my check engine light. Any news of when the stage 2 will be for sale? Will the engine check light affect my car performance?
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