ODB Port Plug-in Tune?

casualDIYer · 07-20-2015, 09:43 PM

Is there a tune out there that you can simply plug into the ODB Port? Kind of like those old game system with cartridges. I thought there was but I haven't seen one. I guess tuning the car via the ODB Port isn't possible? Be super convenient if there was.

mnc

rustyminded · 07-21-2015, 05:50 AM

Brentuning offer something like that as remote tuning and it's around $900. contact them

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 07-21-2015, 08:18 AM

I am not aware of any OBD based flash tune for the F-series N55. They exist for the E-series (COBB, etc.) but haven't seen anything on the F.

Mike

casualDIYer · 07-21-2015, 08:56 AM

Mike, do you know what technical challenges stand in the way for making such a tune? Years ago the things we can do esys today were impossible. Now so doable.

CalCarNut · 07-21-2015, 02:45 PM

Not to mention the flash counter now as standard 'equipment' on the cars........

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 07-22-2015, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by menncars

Mike, do you know what technical challenges stand in the way for making such a tune? Years ago the things we can do esys today were impossible. Now so doable.

BMW has stepped up their ECU encoding making it difficult to gain full access to the ECU via flash. Only options currently I know of on the F-series is to physically remove the ECU from the car, drill into it to access a part of it and bench flash it.

Mike

Dippydo · 07-22-2015, 09:13 AM

If you are looking to be incognito and avoid a fight on your hands if something were to blow up, you do not want to flash the new ECUs through the OBD2 port as Dave said because there is a ECU flash counter through that port. If the flashes don't match BMWs records, they will know immediately that the electronics were tampered with.

casualDIYer · 07-23-2015, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dippydo

If you are looking to be incognito and avoid a fight on your hands if something were to blow up, you do not want to flash the new ECUs through the OBD2 port as Dave said because there is a ECU flash counter through that port. If the flashes don't match BMWs records, they will know immediately that the electronics were tampered with.

So, post warranty go bananas?

CalCarNut · 07-23-2015, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by menncars

So, post warranty go bananas?

pretty much lol

mike@x-ph.com · 07-24-2015, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by menncars

Is there a tune out there that you can simply plug into the ODB Port? Kind of like those old game system with cartridges. I thought there was but I haven't seen one. I guess tuning the car via the ODB Port isn't possible? Be super convenient if there was.

mnc

The old days of tuning the ECU by OBD are gone

Cobb gave up, Dinan and AA are now selling piggys, all the other tuners require you to send your ECU to them in order to flash it.
One day it might be possible, but it does not sound that day is anytime soon

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 07-24-2015, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

The old days of tuning the ECU by OBD are gone

Cobb gave up, Dinan and AA are now selling piggys, all the other tuners require you to send your ECU to them in order to flash it.
One day it might be possible, but it does not sound that day is anytime soon

It will get cracked eventually I think but just might be a while (long while). Its already be a few years with the F-series and no hints of an OBD based flash.

The biggest tell is that Dinan went piggyback after years of saying piggybacks were sub-optimal.

Mike

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