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      01-22-2013, 05:22 PM   #1
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MY 2013 US-spec M-Sport brakes?

This thread is for MY 2013 US-spec M-Sport cars.

I've been reading older threads on the M-Sport brakes and I'm still not clear on the kind of brakes that are supplied stock with this car.

It's obviously not the same as the regular brakes since it's more dusty but it also appears different than the non-US M-Sport brakes because it's not painted blue. So what is it?
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the only difference in the US is the msport package gives more aggressive pads - hence the increase in dust and stronger "bite"
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the only difference in the US is the msport package gives more aggressive pads - hence the increase in dust and stronger "bite"
The pads are actually the standard EU-spec ones. They are more aggressive but have more dust.
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Please give me the US Sport pads. This dust is seriously annoying! How often do you need the extra 2 feet of stopping distance? The dust just isn't worth it!

And that's after putting a coat of Wheel Wax and Meguiars Brake Dust Barrier. Still annoying and ugly! BMW should have coated the wheels with teflon!
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Please give me the US Sport pads. This dust is seriously annoying! How often do you need the extra 2 feet of stopping distance? The dust just isn't worth it!

And that's after putting a coat of Wheel Wax and Meguiars Brake Dust Barrier. Still annoying and ugly! BMW should have coated the wheels with teflon!
Opticoat seems to work well for me!
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Opticoat seems to work well for me!
I've yet to find anyone good/reliable to do Opticoat in Miami/Fort Lauderdale. So, until I do, I stick with the conventional stuff.
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Please give me the US Sport pads. This dust is seriously annoying! How often do you need the extra 2 feet of stopping distance? The dust just isn't worth it!

And that's after putting a coat of Wheel Wax and Meguiars Brake Dust Barrier. Still annoying and ugly! BMW should have coated the wheels with teflon!
You should see my 17" stockers with weak ass brakes after the track lol.
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Mine squeal at slow traffic stops too...
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The pads are actually the standard EU-spec ones. They are more aggressive but have more dust.
Hey Clarence, do you have a detailed description of the difference between M-Sport brakes in the US and in the EU? Also I think there is a brake upgrade option available to the M-Sport line in the EU for a fee?

I've noticed you often have info on parts and stuff, where do you get this from, is there a website for that?
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Hey Clarence, do you have a detailed description of the difference between M-Sport brakes in the US and in the EU? Also I think there is a brake upgrade option available to the M-Sport line in the EU for a fee?

I've noticed you often have info on parts and stuff, where do you get this from, is there a website for that?
If u're talking abt the standard brakes on a 335i with M-sport package then there's no difference between US & EU-specs - they're the same as a standard EU-spec 335i. The standard brakes on a M-sport is just that, no difference to other lines.
The real M-sport brakes (i.e. option 2NH) is so far not available in the US (but available as factory option in Canada). Option 2NH is the factory upgrade u're talking abt, & they're identical to the M-performance brake except for the caliper colours & disc surface.
The parts info can be obtained from realoem, they have the parts catalogue online.
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If u're talking abt the standard brakes on a 335i with M-sport package then there's no difference between US & EU-specs - they're the same as a standard EU-spec 335i. The standard brakes on a M-sport is just that, no difference to other lines.
The real M-sport brakes (i.e. option 2NH) is so far not available in the US (but available as factory option in Canada). Option 2NH is the factory upgrade u're talking abt, & they're identical to the M-performance brake except for the caliper colours & disc surface.
The parts info can be obtained from realoem, they have the parts catalogue online.
Ok so to clarify:

EU 335i regular & M-Sport -> "dusty" brakes
US 335i regular -> Some other "non-dusty" brakes
US 335i M-Sport -> European "dusty" brakes

And finally:

EU 335i M-Sport + option 2NH -> Upgraded blue brakes
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Read this: http://www.f30post.com/forums/showth...ght=blue+brake

There's some bad info in there, but I believe all of your questions will be answered...
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Ok so to clarify:

EU 335i regular & M-Sport -> "dusty" brakes
US 335i regular -> Some other "non-dusty" brakes
US 335i M-Sport -> European "dusty" brakes

And finally:

EU 335i M-Sport + option 2NH -> Upgraded blue brakes
Yes, that's correct. The US non-dusty brakes are just the pads, no other difference.
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Sorry for the simple question, but can someone clarify the size of the 3 brakes?
Right now I am looking at the brochure for the 2013 3er and cannot find the size differences between the various models.

Please clarify:
328i and 328xi have fixed front and rear calipers, disk size?
335i and 335xi have 4 piston floating front and fixed rear, disk size?
I know that the M-Sport package does not change the size of the brakes, but includes the higher performance pads.
What are the specs of the M-Performance brake upgrade?

Ok, last question...are the brakes on XDrive models any different than those of RWD cars?
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For 335:

Stock
Front, 340mm x 30mm, 4 piston fixed, solid rotors
Rear, 345mm x 24mm, single piston sliding, solid rotors

M Sport
Front, 370mm x 30mm, 4 piston fixed (blue), solid rotors
Rear, 345mm x 24mm, 2 piston fixed (blue), solid rotors

M Performance
Front, 370mm x 30mm, 4 piston fixed (3 colours), dimpled and grooved rotors
Rear, 345mm x 24mm, 2 piston fixed (3 colours), dimpled and grooved rotors
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For 335:

Stock
Front, 340mm x 30mm, 4 piston fixed, solid rotors
Rear, 345mm x 24mm, single piston sliding, solid rotors

M Sport
Front, 370mm x 30mm, 4 piston fixed (blue), solid rotors
Rear, 345mm x 24mm, 2 piston fixed (blue), solid rotors

M Performance
Front, 370mm x 30mm, 4 piston fixed (3 colours), dimpled and grooved rotors
Rear, 345mm x 24mm, 2 piston fixed (3 colours), dimpled and grooved rotors

The M Sport specs are for the non-US markets. US market 335i M Sport has same hardware as stock with a different pad. US market 328i M Sport gets the stock 335i hardware and pads.
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The M Sport specs are for the non-US markets. US market 335i M Sport has same hardware as stock with a different pad. US market 328i M Sport gets the stock 335i hardware and pads.
US Market 328i M Sport gets the stock 335i hardware and pads IF YOU ORDER THE M SPORT BRAKE PACKAGE, S2NHA.

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...68&hg=34&fg=05

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US Market 328i M Sport gets the stock 335i hardware and pads IF YOU ORDER THE M SPORT BRAKE PACKAGE, S2NHA.

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...68&hg=34&fg=05

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NO! There is no such option for the US market. How hard is it to go to BMWUSA.COM and use the official configurator....... Or check the official option list PDF on said website.... Jeez this M-Sport brake situation is confusing.
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For 335:

Stock
Front, 340mm x 30mm, 4 piston fixed, solid rotors
Rear, 345mm x 24mm, single piston sliding, solid rotors

M Sport
Front, 370mm x 30mm, 4 piston fixed (blue), solid rotors
Rear, 345mm x 24mm, 2 piston fixed (blue), solid rotors

M Performance
Front, 370mm x 30mm, 4 piston fixed (3 colours), dimpled and grooved rotors
Rear, 345mm x 24mm, 2 piston fixed (3 colours), dimpled and grooved rotors
I mean no disrespect to Canada but as stated on the title this is a US question!

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US Market 328i M Sport gets the stock 335i hardware and pads IF YOU ORDER THE M SPORT BRAKE PACKAGE, S2NHA.

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...68&hg=34&fg=05

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2NHA isn't available in the US market...
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For 335:

Stock
Front, 340mm x 30mm, 4 piston fixed, solid rotors
Rear, 345mm x 24mm, single piston sliding, solid rotors

M Sport
Front, 370mm x 30mm, 4 piston fixed (blue), solid rotors
Rear, 345mm x 24mm, 2 piston fixed (blue), solid rotors

M Performance
Front, 370mm x 30mm, 4 piston fixed (3 colours), dimpled and grooved rotors
Rear, 345mm x 24mm, 2 piston fixed (3 colours), dimpled and grooved rotors
Thank you, even though this is Canada info... I can assume the stock 335i info is what we get in the USA, only with the upgraded pads (for m-sport). Can I also assume the Xdrive models receive NO change over RWD models?
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